Author Topic: Tory Party Watch: parts 8245–8249 & 117  (Read 63897 times)

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Re: Tory Party Watch: parts 8245–8249 & 117
« Reply #750 on: June 21, 2019, 01:56:35 PM »
Oh I see. No I think they'll want to keep up the pressure and show they can destroy the Tory party if they want. It's only a by-election.

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« Reply #751 on: June 21, 2019, 03:06:52 PM »
Oh I see. No I think they'll want to keep up the pressure and show they can destroy the Tory party if they want. It's only a by-election.

If the Tories lose one seat they lose their majority of two (only propped up by the DUP at that).

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Re: Tory Party Watch: parts 8245–8249 & 117
« Reply #752 on: June 21, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »
If the Tories lose one seat they lose their majority of two (only propped up by the DUP at that).

Well, and the remainder of the Tinge. But I take your point. I still predict the BP will stand a candidate.

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« Reply #753 on: June 21, 2019, 04:25:07 PM »
Tinge will be caught between preventing a GE for their own tiny grip onto power and the Tories' urgent need to go full pro-Brexit or lose credibility with many of the people that usually vote for them. I'd actually forgotten about Tinge UK.

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« Reply #754 on: June 21, 2019, 04:29:47 PM »
Tinge will be caught between preventing a GE for their own tiny grip onto power and the Tories' urgent need to go full pro-Brexit or lose credibility with many of the people that usually vote for them. I'd actually forgotten about Tinge UK.

Almost all of them are going to lose their seats at the next GE anyway so I’d imagine that delaying that for as long as as possible will be their only plan.

You don’t think they’d sacrifice a single penny of their own income to prevent Brexit do you?

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« Reply #755 on: June 21, 2019, 04:31:54 PM »
I'd forgotten that about Tinge as well; they're vacillating idiots; firmly behind a pro-Brexit Tory Party, then.

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« Reply #756 on: June 21, 2019, 04:57:37 PM »
The only way there’ll be a GE is either if Johnson thinks he can win and get another five years nailed-on to fill his pockets with state asset fire-sake proceeds or if he pisses off his own MPs and/or the DUP so much that they just go nuclear to get rid of him.

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Re: Tory Party Watch: parts 8245–8249 & 117
« Reply #757 on: June 21, 2019, 05:40:42 PM »
Yeah I think also the Tories are going to wait it out before another election in the hope Corbyn will be gone by then. They know he's in his element when campaigning.

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« Reply #758 on: June 21, 2019, 05:42:34 PM »
Unfortunately for them, Corbyn's also good at attrition.

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Re: Tory Party Watch: parts 8245–8249 & 117
« Reply #759 on: June 21, 2019, 07:22:18 PM »
Well it’s behind a paywall so it might be glossed over.

Really? I'm sure could read the story at the time I posted. Perhaps I hadn't reached my monthly freebie limit at that point, or something. Turns out I can only see the first couple of paragraphs and the comments now. The video no longer seems to be loading either.

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« Reply #760 on: June 27, 2019, 09:03:12 AM »
Another example of the Tories not caring about disabled people:

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Ministers have been condemned after admitting that they have not carried out any assessment of the impact that a no-deal Brexit would have on the lives of people with disabilities.

The government was accused of having “ignored” people with a disability after admitting that “no formal assessment” had been conducted, despite fears over a possible lack of medical supplies and health workers if Britain leaves the EU without a deal.

The revelation came in a reply to a parliamentary question from Labour MP Jo Stevens.

Responding, Caroline Dinenage, the care minister, said: “No formal impact assessment has been conducted by the department of the effect on people with disabilities of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union without a deal.”...


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no-deal-brexit-disabled-people-impact-government-plan-a8975511.html

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« Reply #761 on: July 08, 2019, 06:44:17 PM »
Universal credit, great success!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48887753
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Tens of millions of pounds of public money is believed to have been stolen, with claimants left owing hundreds, after fraudsters targeted Britain's main welfare benefit, universal credit.

The BBC has been told of "money pouring out of the public purse" as criminals make "staggering" bogus online claims.

Claims include one from "a 19-year-old with six blind children" and another saying "Harry Kane" was their landlord.

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Another official told the BBC that the Department for Work and Pensions estimates 10% of the 100,000 or more advances paid monthly are potentially bogus.

This suggests that fraud rates on universal credit are about four times higher than on most other benefits.

Ironically, one of the original goals of universal credit was to save about a billion pounds in fraud and error.

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« Reply #762 on: July 08, 2019, 06:56:04 PM »
No doubt this will be used by the Tories as an excuse to make things harder for genuine benefit claimants.

Is Jade Thomas' claim that the fraudster had a Job Centre Plus badge going to be investigated?


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« Reply #763 on: July 08, 2019, 07:40:22 PM »
Universal credit claim revoked because landlord not called Henry Kelly or whatever?  I don’t get it.

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« Reply #764 on: July 08, 2019, 08:29:23 PM »
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Claims include one... saying "Harry Kane" was their landlord.

To be fair, it’s not a particularly odd name - might have been noteworthy had they claimed the landlord was named Collaterlie Sisters or R2D2.
And it could even be the Harry Kane. Loads of footballers have a property portfolio these days. Doesn’t Robbie Fowler own half of Bulgaria?

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« Reply #765 on: July 08, 2019, 09:29:58 PM »
Knock knock

Who's there

Footballer

Footballer who

Footballer done a goal

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« Reply #766 on: July 09, 2019, 11:34:42 AM »
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The fire brigade has warned four NHS trusts that they plan to shut down parts of their hospitals because they are so decrepit that they pose a threat to patients and staff.

Fire chiefs have made plain to the trusts that they must make urgent improvements to the units concerned in order to improve safety or face legal action to close them down.

The Care Quality Commission, the watchdog that inspects hospitals and GP surgeries, is also considering using its powers because it fears infrastructure problems risk affecting patients.

Management at the four trusts are worried about the disruption to services if the fire brigades follow through on their warnings. They blame multibillion-pound government raids on the NHS’s capital budget in recent years for creating a situation where they have been left without the money to fix worsening problems with hospital buildings such as broken lifts and leaks of water and sewage. Capital funding is used to repair NHS facilities, buy new equipment and build premises...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/09/fire-chiefs-threaten-to-close-dangerous-hospitals

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« Reply #767 on: July 10, 2019, 09:02:36 AM »
How much will this cost?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48925345

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The use of voice search is on the increase and is seen as particularly beneficial to vulnerable patients, such as elderly people and those with visual impairment, who may struggle to access the internet through more traditional means.

Is there not an alternative way of doing this?

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« Reply #768 on: July 10, 2019, 09:24:41 AM »
How much will this cost?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48925345

In theory, Amazon should be paying the NHS for the ability to generate such a huge and lucrative dataset. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHS rolling over and waggling it's legs in the air whilst offering a big cheque.

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« Reply #769 on: July 10, 2019, 09:29:22 AM »
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And she added it was important to remember that not everyone was comfortable using such technology, or could afford it.

It’ll cost patients too.

Free to those who can afford it and will tolerate Amazon’s ears extending into their homes.

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« Reply #770 on: July 11, 2019, 08:02:53 AM »
Really this should just be a consequence of open data/content - we should be making decent health information available and freely reproducible (like accurate hospital addresses and bus times).

The issue here is mostly data protection law (and perhaps the DHSS's free advertising for Amazon in fairness).

But... there is some funny business going on here. Alexa's output isn't just the NHS Choices content - it summarises and transforms it. That's against the standard license conditions for NHS Choices content for a start.

And it can't be using the public API because that's subtly broken in some cases where Alexa works (e.g. symptom lists on the webpages but not in the API output). (They might well have just used screen scraping! People have done that at NHS Hack Days.)

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« Reply #771 on: July 15, 2019, 04:36:36 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48990760
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UK Prime Minister Theresa May has criticised US President Donald Trump for calling on several Democratic congresswomen of colour to "go back".

The outgoing PM called Mr Trump's words "completely unacceptable", according to her spokesperson.

Yeah... not buying it mate. That 'go back' rhetoric seems very familiar. Bit to late to pretend you're not a cunt, Theresa.


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« Reply #772 on: July 15, 2019, 05:22:30 PM »
Bit to late to pretend you're not a cunt, Theresa.

Not really - people have absurdly short memories when it comes to politics.  If she takes this new stance for a few months, nobody will remember anything that contradicts it.

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« Reply #773 on: July 15, 2019, 05:23:53 PM »
Not really - people have absurdly short memories when it comes to politics.  If she takes this new stance for a few months, nobody will remember anything that contradicts it.

Aha!! She’ll remain PM - fucking hell, played the long game she has

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« Reply #774 on: July 16, 2019, 11:23:38 AM »
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Extreme poverty – where families are routinely unable to afford regular meals, wash clothes or provide their children with basic items such as beds and sheets – is becoming more common, according to frontline family support workers.

Three-quarters of support professionals such as health visitors and social workers said they had seen an increase in the numbers of families they regularly worked with who experienced destitution and were in need of basic financial support.

Despite more families facing greater difficulties, official support was harder to come by, the survey found. “The only substantive increase in support over the last year was the increase in the number of families support workers have seen using food banks,” it read...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/15/destitution-on-the-rise-say-frontline-family-support-workers

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« Reply #775 on: July 17, 2019, 11:31:31 AM »
HOW DARE THE STATE FUND CULTURE: https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1151050070583848960

Festivals give young people something to do and might inspire them to get involved in things that divert them from knife crime.

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« Reply #776 on: July 17, 2019, 12:14:34 PM »
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Figures obtained by BuzzFeed News reveal that the Home Office rejected 310 applications for discretionary leave to remain and 65 asylum claims made by child victims of modern slavery between April 2017 and the end of 2018 — the year the Windrush scandal broke, which led to reversals and embarrassment for the British government.

The freedom of information responses show that the government approved only 16 out of 326 applications made by children officially recognised as modern slavery victims who had requested discretionary leave to remain — an immigration status that can give people a temporary right to stay in the UK if they have suffered extreme hardship. The approval rate for asylum claims was higher, with 136 applications approved out of 201...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/janebradley/child-trafficking-victims-refused-uk

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« Reply #777 on: July 17, 2019, 04:42:52 PM »
HOW DARE THE STATE FUND CULTURE: https://twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1151050070583848960

Festivals give young people something to do and might inspire them to get involved in things that divert them from knife crime.

Really depressing comments under that as well.

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« Reply #778 on: July 19, 2019, 02:21:47 PM »
So, there must be an election coming soon...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49041295
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Hundreds of thousands of public sector workers are reportedly in line to get a pay rise.

The armed forces will get a 2.9% rise, teachers and school staff 2.75%, police officers, dentists and consultants 2.5%, senior civil servants 2%

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« Reply #779 on: July 19, 2019, 02:24:30 PM »
All the roadworks around here over the last few months would be an indicator, too.