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£5 for a wank pass from April

Started by idunnosomename, March 07, 2019, 06:22:54 PM

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Ferris


Lisa Jesusandmarychain

Quote from: Cloud on March 08, 2019, 01:26:13 PM
They can get to fuck if they think I'm voluntarily signing onto a wankers register
But you're already a member of CaB ¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!odin

Ferris

What is going on? This wasn't on the political radar when I lived in the UK, what has happened in the last 8 years? Is this popular or what? Which party thinks this is a good idea?

QuoteEach PortesCard will cost £4.99 for use on a single device, or £8.99 for use across multiple devices.

State of that.

Cloud

Quote from: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on March 08, 2019, 01:58:41 PM
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Cuellar

Already in use in Germany, apparently.

Uncle TechTip

Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on March 08, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
What is going on? This wasn't on the political radar when I lived in the UK, what has happened in the last 8 years? Is this popular or what? Which party thinks this is a good idea?

State of that.

You try standing up in Parliament and saying, " I don't think we should hide porn from kids". It was only going to go one way - I say we make no more reference to it and let the vpns surface themselves.

imitationleather

But it was Parliament that made hardcore porn legal in the '90s after decades of there being a desert of available grot in this country between the softcore world of Confessions of a Window Cleaner and private illicit screenings in the back rooms of pubs of old films of Dutch women having sex with horses.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Cuellar on March 08, 2019, 02:16:37 PM
Already in use in Germany, apparently.

That's quite odd. I always remember there being some proper filth on German Satellite, some of it not even encrypted.

Ferris

Quote from: Uncle TechTip on March 08, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
You try standing up in Parliament and saying, " I don't think we should hide porn from kids". It was only going to go one way - I say we make no more reference to it and let the vpns surface themselves.

But how has "I think we should hide porn from people" become a talking point? I get that "I think we shouldn't moderate it at all!" wouldn't go down well, but I don't see how the other side has been raised in parliament.

I'm also amazed about Germany. Is that really the case?

imitationleather

I've not been following this too closely, but haven't successive governments since New Labour been trying to control access to the internet? Saying that it's to stop kids looking at porn is just the acceptable face of this flavour of authoritarianism and controlling free speech.

Large Noise

Quote from: imitationleather on March 08, 2019, 03:13:37 PM
I've not been following this too closely, but haven't successive governments since New Labour been trying to control access to the internet? Saying that it's to stop kids looking at porn is just the acceptable face of this flavour of authoritarianism and controlling free speech.
I don't think it's so much about clamping down on free speech as about trying to bring products that the internet makes effectively free back into the market economy. Something similar is going on with the abolition of net neutrality in the US.

Too many people have been getting a load of free shit for the last 20 years and it's bad for capitalism.

SteveDave

I was in Germany in October and was non-stop watching grot online. There was a lot of it on the TV too.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: imitationleather on March 08, 2019, 03:13:37 PM
I've not been following this too closely, but haven't successive governments since New Labour been trying to control access to the internet? Saying that it's to stop kids looking at porn is just the acceptable face of this flavour of authoritarianism and controlling free speech.

RIPA was labour then they tried to push for email interception (the Tory/Lib Dem coalition made it a promise to drop this). The Tories dropped it then Teresa May immediately started pushing for pretty much the same thing with the name changed, this became the snoopers charter we have now.

Jess Phillips and others have really been pushing hard to de-anonymise the internet, especially twitter. She has reams of abuse from people to bolster her case, and of course pushing hard for it only means she gets more abuse proving her point.

I wouldn't be surprised if the government (in a cross-party sense) attempts to extend these cards to things like that.

Quote from: gilbertharding on March 08, 2019, 10:24:58 AM
You're right. Loitering in the shop - carefully selected so that you'll not bump into anyone you know - until it's completely empty. A copy of the Guardian to hide the purchase on your way out...

I used to work in a convenience store when I was 16 and once, when I was out in the back doing a stock take, I simply grabbed one from the pile to be returned, wrapped it around my leg, tucked into the top of my sock like a pervy shin pad, and walked home with it hidden under my trouser leg.

When I got home, I cut the barcode out and, during my next shift, I waited 'til my supervisor was on break, scanned the barcode and paid for the magazine in cash.

It was the most perfectly executed and ethical shoplift ever committed.

Sebastian Cobb

I lugged the VCR in my room into the lounge and connected it to the one in there and ran off a couple of copies of grot that my mate lent me (that he'd borrowed off another mate). Even kept the 'master' for myself.

28 I was, etc.

gilbertharding

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on March 08, 2019, 03:45:29 PM
Jess Phillips and others have really been pushing hard to de-anonymise the internet, especially twitter. She has reams of abuse from people to bolster her case, and of course pushing hard for it only means she gets more abuse proving her point.

Poor Jess Phillips. I'm sure she'd still get quite a lot of bad abuse even if she wasn't such a dreadful, dreadful person.

Zetetic

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on March 07, 2019, 11:44:32 PM
They may try but how would it work?

They could legislate businesses and demand escrow or blocks (to known providers),
Which is a pretty good start.

Quotebut you can make your own on any cloud host, too much of the web relies on it and you can put tunnels in tunnels (if there was key escrow).
It'll always be somewhat possible to circumvent it technically - China can't completely knock Tor access on the head, for example.

That's hardly the point though.

Ferris

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on March 08, 2019, 03:48:22 PM
I used to work in a convenience store when I was 16 and once, when I was out in the back doing a stock take, I simply grabbed one from the pile to be returned, wrapped it around my leg, tucked into the top of my sock like a pervy shin pad, and walked home with it hidden under my trouser leg.

When I got home, I cut the barcode out and, during my next shift, I waited 'til my supervisor was on break, scanned the barcode and paid for the magazine in cash.

It was the most perfectly executed and ethical shoplift ever committed.

Laughed

biggytitbo

Quote from: Zetetic on March 08, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Which is a pretty good start.
It'll always be somewhat possible to circumvent it technically - China can't completely knock Tor access on the head, for example.

That's hardly the point though.


Someone ought to make a tailored version of Tor just for porn access called Cor.

daf


Enzo

If times get very tough post ban there is always https://www.littlewoods.com/women/lingerie/e/b/1710.end for all your hand shandy needs.

Cloud

Regarding running  your own VPN on a cloud host (hey, get it offa me!) been there tried that, mostly for browsing general stuff from restricted places. If it's something like Linode you end up finding a number of sites that banned the entire provider's range to prevent abuse
That happens with a lot of VPNs too of course, but with Nord having a ton of servers and workarounds it can be a bit easier.

Twed

This thread reminds me of the time a friend saw I had a font file called "chubhand.ttf" on my desktop and accused me of having "chubby hand tittyfuck" porn.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Cloud on March 08, 2019, 10:37:19 PM
Regarding running  your own VPN on a cloud host (hey, get it offa me!) been there tried that, mostly for browsing general stuff from restricted places. If it's something like Linode you end up finding a number of sites that banned the entire provider's range to prevent abuse
That happens with a lot of VPNs too of course, but with Nord having a ton of servers and workarounds it can be a bit easier.

I wouldn't have thought a single vpn would bring much protection anyway, if you're running a box in aws or something for sure amazon are going to be keeping a list of domains you're hitting.

However if the government cracked down on vpn providers it would make a decent jump box.

I have a vpn but I don't trust it for anything more than getting around geoblocks and torrenting.

hummingofevil

I think we should just all stop wanking like because it's a bad thing like the catholic priest and ISIS types tell us.

Twed

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on March 08, 2019, 10:40:53 PM
I wouldn't have thought a single vpn would bring much protection anyway, if you're running a box in aws or something for sure amazon are going to be keeping a list of domains you're hitting.
Absolutely. A VPN is just hiding stuff from your ISP by acting as another ISP. It's only useful because they have more lax standards than most ISPs, and because it stops your ISP sending you copyright letters and threatening your connection. For actual privacy it's worse, IMO. Comcast is only going to sell my digital fingerprint to advertisers. A shady VPN might end up trying to steal my identity.

But yeah, due to the basic way that the Internet works it is impossible to block a country's access to porn. I can route packets as I please. That's part of what makes this so stupid.

Sebastian Cobb

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the more common ones weren't compromised by five-eyes or actual honeypots. As you say, they're only good for border hopping and shielding yourself from misdemeanours like torrenting.

H-O-W-L

Blimey, she's gone up in the world. First she's a reporter, getting ogled by reptilians, and now she's selling wank passes!

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: Twed on March 08, 2019, 11:57:33 PM
But yeah, due to the basic way that the Internet works it is impossible to block a country's access to porn. I can route packets as I please. That's part of what makes this so stupid.

A friend of mine would like to know more about routing his packet, please.

idunnosomename

well it looks like this isn't going ahead on 1 April. I think it was a date set back in Jan and most outlets are realising they aren't going to manage it

https://news.sky.com/story/new-uk-porn-verification-rules-may-expose-users-to-blackmail-campaigners-warn-11656801

QuoteThe law requiring these checks passed in January and the government stated it would enter into force "around April" - already a delay of a year from when they were first due to be policed.

However, contrary to reports that this would be on 1 April, Sky News understands this has not been set.

A DCMS representative said: "This is a world-leading step forward to protect our children from adult content which is currently far too easy to access online.

"The government, and the BBFC as the regulator, have taken the time to get this right and we will announce a commencement date shortly."