Tory leadership contest?

[mothman]

You sound like me when I was in my 'Rik from the Young Ones' phase at university. But this time I think you might be right.

I'd prefer not to be...

[Sebastian Cobb]

It'll be martial law but with all that computer shit they have in China that automatically finds 'dissent' be that actual terrorism plots or j-walking or using a mobile (or scratching your face) while driving.

[Head Gardener]

[mothman]

I said it before earlier upthread, but hear people see absolutely no worth in democracy. Apart from that one last final time where it puts them in charge forever. They'll talk about the will of the people - quite handy when despite all the shit they've pulled over the past forty years it turns out most people are actually as hateful and hate-filled as they are - but really it's the will of THEIR people. They'll cling onto power in the name of the 17.4million long after most of that number are dead.

[olliebean]

YouGov apparently keeps asking a question about whether people want a strong leader who doesn't have to bother with parliament or elections, last count about 40% of people said yes. It's the same thing they've been doing with the NHS, basically make the current system look so shit that people will eventually support it being replaced with something objectively worse.

[Blue Jam]

YouGov apparently keeps asking a question about whether people want a strong leader who doesn't have to bother with parliament or elections, last count about 40% of people said yes.

The Rise And Rise Of Michael Rimmer?

[BlodwynPig]

YouGov apparently keeps asking a question about whether people want a strong leader who doesn't have to bother with parliament or elections, last count about 40% of people said yes. It's the same thing they've been doing with the NHS, basically make the current system look so shit that people will eventually support it being replaced with something objectively worse.

Describe for me, the process by which yougov operates - from concept to execution. It needs to be destroyed

[dr beat]

With that current top story, HIGNFY doesn't have to do any work this week.

[EOLAN]

So J Hunt is going to slash Corporation tax to 12.5%. Reduce the number of companies paying rates so that almost 80% don't. Going to set up a fund of billions to fund farmers and fishermen (mentioning almost with pride that the same was done with banks.)

Is any one out there asking him where all this money is going to come from when there is unlikely to be a huge splurge in GDP after Brexit. Where is the magic money tree that Labour are accused of. And will those people who were targeted with austerity and made suffer as part of their patriotic duty be allowed any benefits. Yes I know the answer and that it is only a Tory election so such issues won't be cared about but do hope he and Boris with similar spending expansions are questioned more.

[Dr Rock]

It's going to 'turbo-charge the economy' Absolute bollocks. It doesn't actually seem a very popular idea and reinforces the idea that Tories would give tax breaks to people/corporations that don't need it.

[Dr Rock]

Neither are being given a tough time by the media for their idiotic ideas from what I've seen, but that's hardly a surprise.

[Blumf]

Hunt's brain farts really do reinforce the idea that he only hangs out with billionaires and landed gentry. Almost certainly hasn't freely spoken to anybody with a net worth below one million in over a decade. Communicates with his gardener via solicitor's letters. The nanny via passive-aggressive post-it notes.

[Jockice]

Hunt's brain farts really do reinforce the idea that he only hangs out with billionaires and landed gentry. Almost certainly hasn't freely spoken to anybody with a net worth below one million in over a decade. Communicates with his gardener via solicitor's letters. The nanny via passive-aggressive post-it notes.

I've met him and I'm a peasant. I even shook hands with him. It was a long time ago though, and I'm still considering amputation.

In the words of Paul Heaton in the Beautiful South's I Think The Answer's Yes: ''I'm walking through these pastures, I'm picking up sweet fruit. I'm shaking hands with people that previously I'd shoot. But nothing will dissuade me, nothing will dilute. I want to execute.''

[Cursus]

[Huxleys Babkins]

The thing I get from Hunt is that same thing I got from May. He's just an empty vessel being thrashed about from all sides, all in the name of a career from which he gains no pride or satisfaction but because he's so far in he doesn't know what else to do but soldier onward. "I've been foreign secretary, so I suppose I should be Prime Minister next."

To try to find a motivation for Hunt's policies and behaviour is pointless. He's literally chucking his strategists and donors' shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

[Ferris]

So many concepts in this. Will post to deso thread

[Panbaams]

More than 1000 members have been sent two ballot papers by mistake: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48890803

It's good to know that our futures are in such capable hands.

[Lordofthefiles]

More than 1000 members have been sent two ballot papers by mistake: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48890803

It's good to know that our futures are in such capable hands.

These are Conservatives though mate. These people are the bedrock of our society, solid upstanding citizens. They're not going to cheat to win an election.

[Panbaams]

Maybe it's for members that are in two minds, like Boris Johnson and those two Brexit articles.

[New folder]

Describe for me, the process by which yougov operates - from concept to execution. It needs to be destroyed

[BlodwynPig]

Ha! quite apt considering my work....however you are off the mark here as this process does good (carbon removal/transformation to energy/resource recovery etc)

[Fambo Number Mive]

David Mitchell has written a Guardian column saying Hunt is the "safer bet". Lots of mention of robotics, no mention of austerity or the NHS.

Meanwhile Hunt is trying to come across as more exciting, it seems: https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1147495203110100992

[mothman]

... because we all know the NHS is safe in Johnson's hands, and an end to austerity is guaranteed under our new flaxen-haired overlord? So somebody else has come out and say that if it's a choice between Johnson & Hunt, they'd sooner have Hunt? So what? Plenty of people are making that calculation. Some in this thread have.

[Dr Rock]

David Mitchell has written a Guardian column saying Hunt is the "safer bet". Lots of mention of robotics, no mention of austerity or the NHS.

It's because he's a comedy writer, and the piece has jokes in it. He makes it clear they are both awful.

[New folder]

Ha! quite apt considering my work....however you are off the mark here as this process does good (carbon removal/transformation to energy/resource recovery etc)

It's a matter of perspective - The public opinion is the sewage, which is processed into clean pro-neocon ToryExtract, conveniently suitable for current governmental needs. Or something. I don't quite know where this metaphor is going.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Does yougov still basically pay a pittance to people for filling in surveys? If that's the case it's only ever going to be in step with cost-of-everything-value-of-nothing misers with too much time on their hands.

[Ferris]

Can this really be an actual quote?

It's the arrogance. It's the contempt. That's what gets me. It's Gordon Brown's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It's at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM... They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup... with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac. The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister...

- Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson writing in the Telegraph, 2007

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Yes, it is real.


We all remember the ballot paper saying "Tony Blair" rather than "Labour" of course.  Johnson hasn't yet said he won't call a general election after becoming leader, I suppose, so he could yet show himself not to be a hypocrite in this one solitary example.

[katzenjammer]

Yeah but it's from 2007 so it doesn't count.  That's how things work

[olliebean]

Also he was just joking, as he was about anything he ever said that doesn't align with what he later said or did or objective truth.