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Films To Be Buried With

Started by SteveDave, March 28, 2019, 09:41:15 AM

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Jerzy Bondov

Quote from: Replies From View on March 30, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
Not everything in life needs to be a Kinder egg.
Right but I'm saying a Kinder egg with a big hard cock in it doesn't have any less merit than a Kinder egg with a gun in it

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Big hard cocks are full of empty calories.

Shit Good Nose

What's the first film you remember seeing?
The Jungle Book (the '67 Disney one).  It was also the first film I ever saw at the cinema, at the age of 3 in 1982.


What is the film that made you cry the most?
I think the robot-woman bit in Superman 3 and Johnny Five getting smashed to pieces in Short Circuit 2 are the only times I've ever cried at a film at all, let alone the most, so I should probably alter the question slightly to cater for my general arm's length detachment from moving pictures - the film that has emotionally affected me the most is Come and See.


What is the film that scared you the most?
Horror is a genre that bores me for the most part, so it's rare that a horror film (or a suspense/thriller which is supposed to be scary) scares me.  I find The Exorcist to be very eerie to this day but I can't really say that it scares me.  I think the only film that I'm not able to watch on my own and/or at night and still gives me the willies now, at 40 ("28 I was", etc), is The Haunting.  I'm also not able to watch the remake, but that's for altogether different reasons...


What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"?
Up In Smoke.  The first twenty minutes is still brilliant, but most of the rest is SO dull and rather aimless.  I've always thought Next Movie was the best Cheech & Chong film, and I still think that to be the case, but time has not been kind to Up In Smoke at all.  But that first twenty minutes - fucking hell, it still makes me laugh hard.


What is the film that you love that most people hate?
1941.  I know a couple of people who think it's okay but haven't bother to re-watch it, but most people I know think it's dreadful, and Spielberg's worst film.  I've always loved it and still do, and yes - I have seen it (the extended version no less) quite recently and it still entertains me.  Interesting that these days it's sort-of dropped its "COMEDY" genre banner and is more often advertised as an action/adventure.  Dunno if that's tactical marketing or not.  On the subject of John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd, I also have a genuine soft spot for Blues Brothers 2000, and I don't know a single other person that likes it, but I wouldn't say I love it.


What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?
South Park Bigger, Longer etc.  I mean it IS a great film anyway, but I can't remember a time when the entire audience was SO invested in the film and got so much back - a real positive atmosphere in the theatre and one I'd not experienced before or since at a cinema.  It was also part of a memorable longer weekend of activities with a bunch of mates. 


What is the film that you thought was the sexiest?
Either Batman Returns (which I saw at the cinema at the "perfect" time - I was 13 and the sight of Michelle Pfeiffer squeezed into a skintight black latex catsuit left such an indelible impression on me that, to this day, I've got a bit of a women-in-latex/shiny fetish) or, much more recently, Blue Is the Warmest Colour.


What is the film that you relate to the most?
Either Free Enterprise or High Fidelity.  Although they both featured 30-something adults with proper careers (I was in my early 20s for both and in-between menial jobs), they presented obsessive geeky guys with "normal" social lives without making them stereotypical nerds.  It was basically me and my mates.  Especially Free Enterprise - there's a little moment where they talk about the Criterion laserdisc of Spartacus, which could have easily been a snapshot of any of our conversations.


What's the worst film ever?
Objectively - either Saving Christmas or The Room (which I think is just abysmal any which way - I don't subscribe, and never have subscribed, to the "so bad it's good" thing with it, it's just a deathly boring badly made film).  Also Manos: The Hands of Fate - which I have seen sans MST3K - is an INCREDIBLY hard slog - the longest 75mins I think I've ever seen.  Subjectively - Trainspotting, which encapsulates absolutely everything that was so fist-chewingly bad and embarrassing about "Kewl Britannia".  Fuck off.


What's your favourite film?
Blade Runner.


What is objectively the greatest film ever made?
Jaws.  Absolutely perfect in every single way - script, acting, score, editing, cinematography, scares, laughs, length, tone, hell I even think Bruce looks pretty fucking good and have never agreed with people who say he looks shit.


What's the film you've watched the most?
Either Blade Runner or Jaws.  Haven't counted, but they both get watched several times a year, and I've been doing so since the mid 80s with Jaws and late 80s with Blade Runner.


What's the funniest film?
Either Christmas Vacation or, purely based on how hard it's always made me laugh (to the point where I can't breathe), BASEketball.


What's the one film you'll take to show when it's your turn at the film night in Heaven?
Either Sorcerer or Wake In Fright.  Leave 'em feeling nice and clean and uplifted.

St_Eddie

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on April 02, 2019, 09:24:41 AM
What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?
South Park Bigger, Longer etc.  I mean it IS a great film anyway, but I can't remember a time when the entire audience was SO invested in the film and got so much back - a real positive atmosphere in the theatre and one I'd not experienced before or since at a cinema.

This is very true to my experience of watching the movie at the cinema too.  I distinctly remember one audience member loudly applauding and shouting "YES!" when the Baldwins got bombed.  It's extremely rare to have that kind of experience within a UK cinema, with a British audience.

It reminded me of when I watched Jurassic Park at a cinema in New York and during the previews there was a trailer for The Flintstones movie.  When John Goodman came on screen and shouted "Wilma, I'm home!", the entire audience vigorously whooped, hollered and applauded in unison.  It was so otherworldly to a Brit like me.  Americans are generally much more into the whole audience interaction at the cinema thing than us Brits.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: St_Eddie on April 02, 2019, 09:53:10 AM
This is very true to my experience of watching the movie at the cinema too.  I distinctly remember one audience member loudly applauding and shouting "YES!" when the Baldwins got bombed.  It's extremely rare to have that kind of experience within a UK cinema, with a British audience.

It reminded me of when I watched Jurassic Park at a cinema in New York and during the previews there was a trailer for The Flintstones movie.  When John Goodman came on screen and shouted "Wilma, I'm home!", the entire audience vigorously whooped, hollered and applauded in unison.  It was so otherworldly to a Brit like me.  Americans are generally much more into the whole audience interaction at the cinema thing than us Brits.

But, even when us reserved Brits DO get a bit excited in the cinema on occasion, it's still a very different beast than Americans hooting and hollering at every tiny little fucking thing going on on screen.  When me and Mrs Nose honeymooned in San Francisco we went to the cinema a couple of times and, whilst I can't remember what we saw, the fucking audiences would NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR THE ENTIRE RUNNING TIME.  It was a completely different kind of positive atmosphere than what I experienced on home turf with South Park.  I don't really know how to describe it cos it's not even as simple as "it was just like American audiences but dialed down to 5".

I dunno.  Maybe it just boils down to the stereotypical "an excited Brit is way less annoying than an excited American, even if their excitement levels register exactly the same on the scientific Excitementometer machine".

Avril Lavigne

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on April 02, 2019, 09:24:41 AM
What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?

I feel like it would also be interesting to ask folks the flipside of this question ('What film do you hate because you had a terrible experience around it?').  I watched The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected) last year on a Sunday afternoon with my parents, all of us assuming it would be a nice laid-back comedy drama to watch together after Sunday Dinner.  Adam Sandler's character's  wholesome-seeming teenage daughter in it goes off to be a film student.  She shows the family her short film.  It's a punk genderqueer porn superhero satire.  Later she makes another short film - a version of Little Red Riding Hood that basically amounts to a guy in a wolf fursuit & mask fucking her, a teenaged girl dressed as Red Riding Hood with her tits out.  These short films aren't glimpsed quickly, they're shown more or less in full.  I wanted the Nazi mutants from American Werewolf to burst in and kill us all.

Shit Good Nose

#36
Quote from: Avril Lavigne on April 02, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
I feel like it would also be interesting to ask folks the flipside of this question ('What film do you hate because you had a terrible experience around it?').  I watched The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected) last year on a Sunday afternoon with my parents, all of us assuming it would be a nice laid-back comedy drama to watch together after Sunday Dinner.  Adam Sandler's character's  wholesome-seeming teenage daughter in it goes off to be a film student.  She shows the family her short film.  It's a punk genderqueer porn superhero satire.  Later she makes another short film - a version of Little Red Riding Hood that basically amounts to a guy in a wolf fursuit & mask fucking her, a teenaged girl dressed as Red Riding Hood with her tits out.  These short films aren't glimpsed quickly, they're shown more or less in full.  I wanted the Nazi mutants from American Werewolf to burst in and kill us all.

Heh.  Luckily I never had that problem - my dad was a big film buff and he's the one that got me into films, but not just watching them but also knowing how they were made, so I would sit down and watch all sorts (that I really shouldn't have been) with him from quite a young age and then talk about it - subject matter, themes, symbolism etc.  We watched Predator, Die Hard and Robocop together in one day when we rented them from the local video shop when I was 9 or 10, and Moviedrome was a regular co-watch whilst I was growing up.  But by then I knew all about acting, writing, special effects etc, and any kind of sex and violence never left me squirming in embarrassment (having said that, I don't know if I'd have been quite as relaxed about it all if I was watching the aofrementioned Blue Is the Warmest Colour with him...).  On the other hand, I think that early "schooling" is also what left me with next to no interest in musicals and horror - I approach them in quite a dry and unemotional way, so I can't connect with random strangers bursting into the lyrics of the same song, or be too bothered about fantastical stuff which doesn't exist like ghosts and werewolves.

BUT, it's a good flipside question and, I think, may answer would probably be The Exorcist. 

Now, I still LOVE the film and still think it's a masterpiece, but seeing it when the UK ban was lifted and it was re-released in cinemas went quite a long way to completely ruining it for me.  I'd had the American (pan and scan) laserdisc for a number of years by then, so had seen it a few times, but only in pan and scan and on a relatively small TV.  You can imagine the excitement of going to see this important film on the big screen for the first time.  Unfortunately we decided to go on halloween.  Half the audience was teenagers dressed up in their finest halloween costumes and the other half was emos and goths.  I remember there were no ads or trailers - kind of adding to the mythos surrounding the film, which most of the people in that audience probably hadn't seen and were only aware of its reputation - so the lights go down and everyone goes quiet.  About ten minutes in people are getting a little bit restless - shifting around, a couple of toilet trips.  Another ten minutes go by and you can hear little groups dotted around talking and obviously paying no attention to the film.  And on and on and on.  "You're gonna die up there" [pissssssss].  Cue laughter.  And it basically just went downhill from there and by the end it was a room full of thousands of disappointed teens who wondered where the masked killer and dead bodies were, laughing at the pea soup vomit and the sight of a young girl bloodily masturbating with a cross.  Literally the only bit in that film that had any kind of effect as intended by Friedkin was the spinal tap sequence.  Everything else was just a joke to these cunts.

I know - more fool me for going on halloween night.

Given the history of the film and James Ferman's one-man crusade to make the thing impossible for every single person in the UK to see, it's extremely odd that it's now thought of by many of today's younger audiences as being a bit twee.  And it's been shown on ITV4.  But then I guess many people my age can say the same thing about Hammer horror films...

greenman

#37
Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on March 30, 2019, 03:16:49 PM
I guess the difference between sex scenes and fights is that a bout of fisticuffs, dragged out though it may be, serves the story. The baddie is an obstacle whose defeat moves the plot forward and the means by which it happens reveals stuff about the characters. If the baddie is supposed to be hard as nails, skipping over how they're defeated would be a bit of a deus ex machina.

That's not so much the case in a sex scene. They can reveal character detail, as in the contrasting shags in A History of Violence, but that could generally also be inferred from context.

I think its moreso a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy personally, the idea that sex onscreen can only ever be poorly done gratuitous titillation means that it tends to be exactly that a lot of the time and indeed not very sexy.

What's the first film you remember seeing?
Probably Return of the Jedi as the first thing I remember seeing at the cinema on release.

What is the film that made you cry the most?
I'd guess probably Watership Down growing up, more recently maybe The Dekalog, Millennium Actress or Blue is the Warmest Colour

What is the film that scared you the most?
At a younger age probably seeing Ghostbusters at the cinema with the library ghost at the start, these days I find its stuff like say Lynch with a sense of dread that has more effect on me rather than more overt scares, maybe Angel Heart and the derelict in Alien.

What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"?
Quite a few 80's comedies come to mind(especially Police Academy sequels), a combination of the humour not holding up and often being rather retrograde in its targets.

What is the film that you love that most people hate?
Could almost future in the choice below but I still have a soft spot for Lynch's Dune as really the first piece of strange cinema I saw, these days having both read the book and watched so much more of that kind of cinema I can see its faults more clearly but still get plenty of enjoyment from it.

What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?
For audience interaction I'm ashamed to say probably the original Jackass film, the audience being so into it actually made it quite a pleasant experience although I'v never rewatched it and it would probably spoil the memory if I did.

What is the film that you thought was the sexiest?
Back in the day probably The Unbearable Lightness of Being or Betty Blue, more recently I'd agree with SGN and go with Blue id the Warmest Colour. You could probably spilt that into "sexy sexy"in those choices and "unsettling sexy" such as Mulholland Drive, Under the Skin, Duke of Burgundy etc.

What is the film that you relate to the most?
Depressingly probably Uzak

What's your favourite film?
Getting harder to say for sure but probably between, Blade Runner, Once Upon A Time In America and Andrei Rublev, recently Ugestu certainly impressed me a lot.

What is objectively the greatest film ever made?
Don't think that's really easy to answer, I'd probably go with one of the above.

What's the film you've watched the most?

Probably either Empire Strikes Back, Ghostbusters, Wrath of Khan, Raiders or Big Trouble In Little China, all got a hell of a lot of casual viewings down the years.

What's the funniest film?
I don't tend to laugh out loud unless I'm with others doing so and that often isn't the mark of what I find funniest, probably between obvious Cab choices like some classic Murray in Ghostbusters/Groundhog Day, Holy Grail, Lebowski, Spinal Tap and Withnail and I.

What's the one film you'll take to show when it's your turn at the film night in Heaven?

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It would have to be a steelbook as a plastic case would snap too easily especially if the burial site was a clay soil.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

It could make a double bill with Shallow Grave.

Swoz_MK

What's the first film you remember seeing?
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Isle of Wight while on holiday in 1984.

What is the film that made you cry the most?
Memories of Matsuko

What is the film that scared you the most?
The Ninth Gate for some reason. I absolutely shit myself that first time seeing it at the cinema. I think I was quite hungover.

What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"?
A Cat in the Brain

What is the film that you love that most people hate?
Trash Humpers

What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?
Star Wars Episode I, the anticipation was immense and tangible. What a stinker though.

What is the film that you thought was the sexiest?
Wish You Were Here

What is the film that you relate to the most?
Eagle VS Shark

What's the worst film ever?
The Greatest Showman

What's your favourite film?
Jaws

What is objectively the greatest film ever made?
Toy Story 2

What's the film you've watched the most?
Jaws

What's the funniest film?
The Man With Two Brains

What's the one film you'll take to show when it's your turn at the film night in Heaven?
The Idiots

SteveDave

#43
First film you remember seeing
"Snow White And The Seven Dwarves" at the Monico Cinema in Rhiwbina. It is now flats.

What is the film that made you cry the most
All films make me cry.

What is the film that scared you the most
The trailer to "Howard The Duck" kept me awake for about a week after I saw it before "Transformers- The Movie" when I was a young boy.

What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"

edit "DRACULA DEAD AND LOVING IT"

What is the film that you love that most people hate
"Hudson Hawk"

What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it.
"True Romance" Saw it with a it a girlfriend and then got "You're So Cool" tattoo'd on my wrist. We broke up and then I was going to get it removed/written over but, upon walking into my now wife's front room she had a massive "True Romance" poster. I took this as a sign.

What is the film that you thought was the sexiest
"The Last Picture Show"

What is the film that you relate to the most
"The Harder They Come"

What's the worst film ever
"Avatar" I've not seen it but I know it is.

What's your favourite film
"The Wicker Man" probably. Runners up "A Hard Day's Night" and "Jaws"

What is objectively the greatest film ever made
"Jaws"

What's the film you've watched the most
"Superbad" or "Withnail And I"

What's the funniest film
"Superbad"

What's the one film you'll take to show at the film night in heaven
"The Wicker Man" then we can have a sing-song too.

greenman


St_Eddie

Quote from: Swoz_MK on April 02, 2019, 04:02:04 PM
What is the film that you thought was the sexiest?
Wish You Were Here

Into sixteen year old girls mockingly shouting "up yer bum", I take it?  Takes all sorts...

Quote from: SteveDave on April 02, 2019, 04:27:32 PM
What's the worst film ever
"Avatar" I've not seen it but I know it is.

I don't know about worst but it's certainly in the top 100, I'd say.  That's largely due to the sheer success of the bloody thing though.  It's a terrible movie that does not deserve to be one of the highest grossing movies of all time.  At all.  I'm also sick of hearing the usual defense of "yeah, the plot and characters are weak but it looks amazing".  No it doesn't.  It looks like a videogame and is going to date horrendously.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

What's the first film you remember seeing?
It's either Short Circuit 2, or The Land Before Time. Those were at the cinema. I must have seen other films on telly before that, but damned if I can remember them.

What is the film that made you cry the most?
I've never full on bawled at a film, but In Bruges never fails to make me well up, when Colin Farrell is crying in the park (with the alcoves).

It sounds silly but, since someone very dear to me died a few years ago, I have a hard time watching the bit in A Muppet Christmas Carol when the Cratchits are mourning Tiny Tim.

What is the film that scared you the most?
Short Circuit 2. When the baddies smash Johnny 5 up, while he screams, "Don't kill me!" I saw that scene decades later and still found it chilling.

What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"?
I wouldn't say I loved it, but I used to think of Ronin as a really solid action movie. I watched it a few weeks ago, however, and thought it was kind of pants. The car chases, which I remembered as some of the greatest of all time, were terrible.

What is the film that you love that most people hate?
Another tough question, this. Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World seemed to draw a ridiculous level of hate from a lot of people, but I know it's also far from universally loathed.

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is one that I'd have thought would merit wider appreciation, but a surprising number of friends I've shown it to thought it was crap.

What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it?
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones. It was my first summer at university. Midnight showing, in a cinema jam packed with seemingly everyone I knew from my course. It was more like being at a live music gig than a film. Yeah, it's shit, but the memories are good.

To nominate an actual good film, I'd say Super Troopers. Perhaps not coincidentally, it was around the same time as the previous story. I was away visiting a friend at another university. We went to a nightclub and, somehow, I ended up pulling a lovely young lady and going back to hers for my first ever sexy times. I rejoined my friend the next day and we watched Super Troopers in the evening with a bunch of his mates. The two events aren't really related, save that they occurred during the same weekend, but the association is there in my brain.

What is the film that you thought was the sexiest?
If we're measuring by number of wanks, it would be some "erotic thriller" with a title like Deadly Heat, glimpsed though the static on Channel 5 when I was a teenager.

If we're being less grotty than that, it might be The Empire Strikes Back. Princess Leia in the gold bikini is obviously more iconic for filthy nerds of a certain age, but the scene in which she and Han first kiss has sheer chemistry. I accept that in the era of #metoo, Han continuing to put the moves on Leia after she's told him to stop is problematic, but by god did it seem romantic to the young me.

What is the film that you relate to the most?
I never did the soul crushing retail job in my 20s thing (opting instead for unemployment, which was actually much worse) but I can relate to Dante's apathetic aimlessness in Clerks.

What's the worst film ever?
A toss-up between Death Proof and Prometheus. Both of them contain some of the shittest characters ever. Prometheus pisses me off as a fan of the first two Alien films (the good ones) but Death Proof had a scene in which a young woman was unwittingly used as sexual collateral, just so the horrible arseholes she was with could testdrive a car. And then Tarantino has the gall to try and pull some sort of girl power ending.

What's your favourite film?
Crivens, that's a difficult question!

At one time I would have said Fight Club, without hesitation (and not because I'm some Mens Rights tosser, or teen edgelord). It's funny and clever (at least to a dolt like me), the cinematography is excellent and the soundtrack is goddamned amazing. I have a harder time choosing now but, converse to the question above, I rewatched it recently and was delighted to find that I still loved it. It might be tempting to think of it as a relic of a world before 9/11 and global recession, but I think it's actually got more relevant as the idea of toxic masculinity and that has gained more currency.

What is objectively the greatest film ever made?
Everyone always says Citizen Kane, so who am I to disagree? It certainly helps that I've always found it a genuinely enthralling film in its own right, rather than some academic chore.

What's the film you've watched the most?
Probably the aforementioned Muppet Christmas Carol. We watched it dozens of times on VHS as kids and now it's on telly every year.

What's the funniest film?
Again, a difficult one to narrow down. It's hard to argue with the sheer quantity of jokes in Airplane, though.

I feel like the Coen Brothers are slightly underrated as comedy film makers, in the same way that David Lynch is perhaps overlooked as a horror director. They're artsy critical darlings, obviously, but they've made some of the flat out funniest films I've ever seen. The big chase scene in Raising Arizona is a masterpiece of sustained hilarity.

What's the one film you'll take to show when it's your turn at the film night in Heaven?
Evil Dead 2. If they don't like it, I'll know it's actually Hell.

Dusty Substance


What's the first film you remember seeing? - Empire Strikes Back - Although I know for a fact I'd already watched Star Wars, Empire is the one that I actually remember.

What is the film that made you cry the most? - Silent Running - I can sit through holocausts, family break ups and dying kids, but a robot alone in space watering plants and I'm an absolute state.

What is the film that scared you the most? - rec - Had no idea what to expect, after it finished I couldn't leave the room for about an hour.

What film did you used to love, but you watched it recently and gone "Oh dear this does not hold up"? - Disney's Sword In The Stone - Merlin's a fun character but it's clunky and a bit of a mess.

What is the film that you love that most people hate? - Spielberg's War Of The Worlds - Definitely got problems (Tom Cruise as a construction worker, classic Spielberg family schmaltz) but the effects are amazing and it nips along at a nice pace. Also, they said in the weeks following 9/11 that we'd never see a film with that kind of death and destruction again. WOTW came out within four years.

What is the film that you love the most not because of the film itself but because of the experience you had around it? - Skyfall - I'd all but given up on Bond after the hugely disappointing QoS, but I got pissed and high one night, watched the third Craig film and loved it more than any Bond film I'd ever seen.

What is the film that you thought was the sexiest? - Byzantium - Gemma Arterton in stockings.

What is the film that you relate to the most? - Sideways - I'm  not a big wine drinker, but I very much related to Paul Giamatti's character.

What's the worst film ever? - Mac And Me - Nightmarish feature length commercial for MacDonald's, masquerading as an E.T rip-off.

What's your favourite film? - A Clockwork Orange - It's my go to film, no matter what mood I'm in.

What is objectively the greatest film ever made? - There Will Be Blood - The greatest cinematography, score, acting, script, directing ever. I bet even the catering on that film was objectively the greatest.

What's the film you've watched the most? - A Shot In The Dark - It made me howl as a kid (even though tons of jokes went above my head) and it still does.

What's the funniest film? - This Is Spinal Tap - It's staggering how many jokes per minute there are.

What's the one film you'll take to show when it's your turn at the film night in Heaven? - Ed Wood - A perfect love-letter to the art of film making. From the director of Dumbo (2019).


greenman

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on April 03, 2019, 12:12:25 AM
What is the film that you love that most people hate?
Another tough question, this. Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World seemed to draw a ridiculous level of hate from a lot of people, but I know it's also far from universally loathed.

I'v always rather suspected much of the hate comes from those who haven't actually seen it or had made up their mind well beforehand believing it was going to be celebrating the "coffee drinking indie hipster" where as IMHO it spends most of its time taking the piss out of such people.

Quote from: Dusty SubstanceWhat is the film that you love that most people hate? - Spielberg's War Of The Worlds - Definitely got problems (Tom Cruise as a construction worker, classic Spielberg family schmaltz) but the effects are amazing and it nips along at a nice pace. Also, they said in the weeks following 9/11 that we'd never see a film with that kind of death and destruction again. WOTW came out within four years.

I suspect as with other Spielberg like Minority Report and AI a lot of the criticism it got was due to being uneven in many peoples eyes, having quality cinema undercut by more formulaic schmaltz.

Swoz_MK

Quote from: St_Eddie on April 02, 2019, 09:08:53 PM
Into sixteen year old girls mockingly shouting "up yer bum", I take it?  Takes all sorts...

Yes.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Quote from: greenman on April 03, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
I've always rather suspected much of the hate comes from those who haven't actually seen it or had made up their mind well beforehand believing it was going to be celebrating the "coffee drinking indie hipster" where as IMHO it spends most of its time taking the piss out of such people.
I've certainly seen the word 'hipster' flung at it a lot, which doesn't make any sense to me at all. I thought hipsters were supposed to be snobby Nathan Barley types, which doesn't doesn't fit any of the characters, other than a few of the villains maybe. Scott and his friends are just typical youths as far, as I'm aware. Nor does it seem like a film made by hipsters. I mean it's a million miles away from some mumblecore type of thing. If I were to compare it to anything, it would be The Blues Brothers, mixed with a bit of Jackie Chan.

Heck, one of the tunes on the soundtrack is called Death to All Hipsters, or something like that.

Shit Good Nose

Most of Scott Pilgrim went WAY over my head, and it's the only film I've ever seen which made me feel old and completely out of place - it's aimed at a very specific and niche group of people, and my problem with it is that, instead of being (or, at least, trying to be) inclusive of others, it seems to purposely alienate those who aren't in the same clique, and take great delight in doing so.  It's an incredibly smug piece of work, to the point where it basically sneers at anyone who isn't in on the "joke".  I think it's Wright's worst film by miles, even worse than the dreadful World's End - at least that had a decent turn from Nick Frost.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

Old man.

Shit Good Nose



Dusty Substance

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on April 03, 2019, 03:52:48 PM
Most of Scott Pilgrim went WAY over my head, and it's the only film I've ever seen which made me feel old and completely out of place - it's aimed at a very specific and niche group of people, and my problem with it is that, instead of being (or, at least, trying to be) inclusive of others, it seems to purposely alienate those who aren't in the same clique, and take great delight in doing so.  It's an incredibly smug piece of work, to the point where it basically sneers at anyone who isn't in on the "joke".  I think it's Wright's worst film by miles, even worse than the dreadful World's End - at least that had a decent turn from Nick Frost.

As a non-gamer, I suspect a load of the jokes went way way over my head, too, but that doesn't stop me loving SPvTW - I think it's a masterpiece. In fact, both of Wright's non-Pegg/Frost films have been my favoutites from his filmography.


Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Off the top of my head, the only references to specific games are the use of music from the Zelda series. Otherwise it's all generic stuff, like the baddies turning into coins, which is basic magical realism type stuff.

But then, looking for logic in the opinions of a man that thinks Alien 3 is a masterpiece is a fool's errand.

St_Eddie

Quote from: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on April 03, 2019, 09:49:12 PM
But then, looking for logic in the opinions of a man that thinks Alien 3 is a masterpiece is a fool's errand.

"A minor masterpiece".

Which it is.

Bazooka

Alien 3 is fucking perfect(obviously not the 1993 CGI alien head explosion), sorry I've not filled out the form correctly to say so.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

I'm afraid that if you don't fill in the form, your opinion can not be acknowledged.