Tinge UK - New Centrist Party [split topic]

[BlodwynPig]

Bungalow beige! Fantastic, absolutely brilliant. Pouring some single malt into my tumbler to celebrate this discovery

[Howj Begg]

Perhaps Change UK could use the blank space where their logo would have been on the ballot paper to write their policies.

Uk garage good, grime and dubstep bad, iirc

[daf]

The Commission rejected the group's proposed emblem, however, which was a black square with white writing, saying: "TIG #Change."

Change UK Tinge have yet to say whether they have submitted a new logo.

Here you go, you useless bastards :

[Alberon]

Trying to use a hashtag as a logo is yet another example of what a bunch of brain dead, cackhanded morons they are. It's easy enough to hijack a hashtag, especially as one as meaninglessly bland as #change. And I love the way the use of TIG was slapped down as not being well known enough.

I suspect the next stage will be when the murky pasts of a few of the European Elections candidates are revealed after being inadequately vetted.

[imitationleather]

What's funny about this is that branding is the one thing I would have expected this lot to have been competent at.

[Ferris]

What's funny about this is that branding is the one thing I would have expected this lot to have been competent at.

And me. Flim flam merchants and snake oil salesman have to be good at this bit, surely?!

[Fambo Number Mive]

Another potential MEP Change UK candidate: https://twitter.com/Tsar_Nicholas/status/1117119967953076224

[Pepotamo1985]

Interesting bit of Integrity Initiative-related weirdness with Tinge.

You may or may not be aware, but last year a new political party was formed - Renew (me neither). It announced yesterday it was merging with The Independent Group as soon as 'Change UK' was registered with the electoral commission (https://www.renewparty.org.uk/renew_moves_to_support_the_ind_group).

One of Renew's primary founders was a chap called Chris Coghlan, who worked in finance before joining the Foreign Office's counter-terrorism division (ie MI6), before stepping down to run in the 2017 General Election as an independent. Looks like there was no 'cooling off' time - not sure what the rules are on this for spooks or if there are any, but it seems pretty odd - I have friends who work in the civil service who've investigated running as MPs and the guidance is quite strict IIRC.

Anyway, according to his LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscoghlan1/) he's currently an Army Reservist, and chief of the 'Grow Movement' ("a non profit pioneering a new technique for poverty relief; providing business advice over mobile phone to micro entrepreneurs in Sub Saharan Africa" apparently). My first thought was he could be part of 77th Brigade or Specialist Group Military Intelligence, the Army's only two reservist-only military-intelligence units AFAIK. Both were established by the Institute for Statecraft, Integrity Initiative's parent org.

Further digging reveals he also works for The Fore (http://bulldogtrust.org/trustees-and-staff/alison-marston/), a charity which operates out of Two Temple Place...which is also the actual headquarters of the Institute for Statecraft.

Now, it looks like Coghlan left Renew in strange circumstances not longer after its founding (https://www.markpack.org.uk/154931/renew-party-founder-chris-coghlan/) - but I would suggest the people still involved are worthy of pretty deep investigation indeed.

[Captain Z]

So are they Change UK or The Independent Group? Party name registered as the former but their website and desired logo refer to them as the latter...? What a mess.

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"...a non profit pioneering a new technique for poverty relief; providing business advice over mobile phone to micro entrepreneurs in Sub Saharan Africa"

"Listen Abimbola, handouts are not the answer mate, the free market provides a multitude of paths out of poverty ... you've got your flea-ridden goat and your small bag of cashew nuts - they're your assets and they can be your ticket out of this mess. There's plenty of opportunities out there if you're prepared to work for 'em. Two years from now I want to see your profit margins doubling and your start up business moving into newer premises, rather than seeing you nearly dying of malnutrition, like what almost happened the last time we had one of these little chats. Ciao!"

[Ferris]

Interesting bit of Integrity Initiative-related weirdness with Tinge.

You may or may not be aware, but last year a new political party was formed - Renew (me neither). It announced yesterday it was merging with The Independent Group as soon as 'Change UK' was registered with the electoral commission (https://www.renewparty.org.uk/renew_moves_to_support_the_ind_group).

One of Renew's primary founders was a chap called Chris Coghlan, who worked in finance before joining the Foreign Office's counter-terrorism division (ie MI6), before stepping down to run in the 2017 General Election as an independent. Looks like there was no 'cooling off' time - not sure what the rules are on this for spooks or if there are any, but it seems pretty odd - I have friends who work in the civil service who've investigated running as MPs and the guidance is quite strict IIRC.

Anyway, according to his LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscoghlan1/) he's currently an Army Reservist, and chief of the 'Grow Movement' ("a non profit pioneering a new technique for poverty relief; providing business advice over mobile phone to micro entrepreneurs in Sub Saharan Africa" apparently). My first thought was he could be part of 77th Brigade or Specialist Group Military Intelligence, the Army's only two reservist-only military-intelligence units AFAIK. Both were established by the Institute for Statecraft, Integrity Initiative's parent org.

Further digging reveals he also works for The Fore (http://bulldogtrust.org/trustees-and-staff/alison-marston/), a charity which operates out of Two Temple Place...which is also the actual headquarters of the Institute for Statecraft.

Now, it looks like Coghlan left Renew in strange circumstances not longer after its founding (https://www.markpack.org.uk/154931/renew-party-founder-chris-coghlan/) - but I would suggest the people still involved are worthy of pretty deep investigation indeed.

I thought Two Temple Place was a museum (it has been the last few times I went anyway).

[Enzo]

I thought Two Temple Place was a museum (it has been the last few times I went anyway).

Owned by the Bulldog Trust. I think there are offices in the basement

[idunnosomename]

I thought Two Temple Place was a museum (it has been the last few times I went anyway).

The Bulldog Trust is a "charity that helps charities". They run one exhibition a year at Waldorf Astor's old London office Two Temple Place, and lots of private events in the building, which is a pretty amazing late Gothic mansion by church architect J.L Pearson. Currently open at the moment for one on Ruskin, so go along if you're in London before like, next week.

[holyzombiejesus]

I think it was Renew that was due to launch after the council elections (or earlier this month). I keep bollocking on about them and no-one ever responds but someone posted a screenshot of a website announcing they were due to make an announcement.

[holyzombiejesus]

Christ, look at the blue bit at the top. It's like something from a horror film.

https://www.renewparty.org.uk/team

[idunnosomename]

THE TORIES ARE COMING! *hammers planks over windows*

[greencalx]

I was expecting these people to be style over substance. Doesn't even look like they can do the style part.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Dawkins says he has applied to be a Change UK MEP candidate

[Josef K]

What do you think will happen to them when they lose their seats in the next election?

Can't see their parties welcoming them back, or them accepting the egg on face and rejoining.

Angela Smith will become a water industry lobbyist. Berger's the only decent MP in TIG, would be nice to have her back in Labour but v unlikely.

The rest of them such a perfect combination of bland and shit, no other parties would want them

[holyzombiejesus]

Umuna will be a regular on This Week. Not sure what his wacky hastag will be.

Mike Gapes will get his own TV series where he's a detective whose alter ego hypnotises criminals by pulling a goatse.

[Ferris]

Mike Gapes will team up with former West Ham hardman Julian Dicks and they'll either do a hard boiled procedural crime show, or travel the UK cooking local delicacies in the back of a transit van.

Dicks and Gapes, coming to a telly near you. Though hopefully not too near you.

[Cuellar]

What do you think will happen to them when they lose their seats in the next election?

Can't see their parties welcoming them back, or them accepting the egg on face and rejoining.

Angela Smith will become a water industry lobbyist. Berger's the only decent MP in TIG, would be nice to have her back in Labour but v unlikely.

The rest of them such a perfect combination of bland and shit, no other parties would want them

Management consultancy.

[Ferris]

Management consultancy.

Motivational speakers.

[Replies From View]

I'm less confident than all of you that they will fail.

[holyzombiejesus]

What is failure for them though? I think they'll fail to win seats but will possibly succeed in their main objective which is preventing a Labour government.

[Alberon]

The longer things go without a general election the better their chances.

They're gambling for a general public preferring centrism over extremism but I think they've got the wrong decade for that. I expect the number of their MPs will drop to two or three whenever the next election is and they'll either merge with the Lib Dem's or fade away completely.

[pancreas]

I agree. The issue with the EU elections is that they'll manage to convince the uber-remainers to vote for them. Which will give them legitimacy.

[greencalx]

Projections based off polling suggest the TINGE may get the grand total of zero seats.

[daf]

Merger with Killroy Silk's Vanitas

[NoSleep]

Projections based off polling suggest the TINGE may get the grand total of zero seats.

Insignificant numbers polled or enough to hamper, say, Labour's chances against Farage/Tories/UKIP?