Topic: I honestly think that Limp Bizkit are good fun

[Utter Shit]

My Way is such a banger, and indelibly linked to the greatest wrestling video package of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhd2fZyDB4

[Dr Sanchez]

No, Nickelback were the benchmark of terrible manufactured nu-metal. As evidenced by this scientific proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHPj5YokEOY

Nickelback weren't Nu Metal.

For a start, nu metal bands had to have a DJ in the group. That's what the "nu" was all about after all. Also they had no rapping.

They were more shit metal.

[drummersaredeaf]

Aye, or the shitey related genre that was sometimes called post-grunge.

[magval]

My Way is such a banger, and indelibly linked to the greatest wrestling video package of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhd2fZyDB4

Correct. Have there been many challengers? Daniel Bryan's 'monster' one for WM30 one springs to mind but it's a distant second.

[BeardFaceMan]

Fear Factory are mostly responsible for bands doing death metal screaming and clean singing in the same song too, not just riffing alomg to the drums, a hugely influential band, and not just to nu-metal. They are also responsible for the term nu-metal, sort of. When they released Demanufacture there was an article referring to them as the 'new breed' of metal, New Breed of course being one of the bangers on that album. Then got shortened to nu metal. I think what fucked them up in the end was straying too far into concept album territory.

I would also say that while Deftones weren't really nu metal, apart from Around The Fur, they were a bit more than lumped in with the genre, they were touring with the likes of Korn and appearing on other bands albums, they seemed to embrace it with the Around The Fur era but soon got tired of the tag and its limitations and actively tried to move away from that label, nu metal soon became all about screaming/badly rapping about your shitty childhood. Blame Korn for that.

Faith No More are in no way, shape or form nu metal but they were a huge influence on a lot of nu metal bands.

I would dearly love to get my hands on some Limp Bizkit instrumentals, I cant think of another band where I like the music so much but detest the singer with the same passion. Break Stuff is a fucking tune though, the only one thats not ruined by Fred Dursts whiny voice. The most entertaining thing he ever did was that phonecall to Taproot. Or that time he tried to sing and play guitar onstage. Where are you going to shove that cookie again, Fred?

Some random thought on nu metal, there.

[drummersaredeaf]

See, I don't think the Deftones sound changes too much over the first three albums. There's a gradual evolution, but I don't think there's any huge developments where there aren't clues on the previous records. The fourth if anything is the big change (Steph trying to regain some control maybe), then again with the Wrist record, and again with the new bassist. Where they might be linked to nu metal is in Chino being on Korn's album (and knocking round some of those bands generally), and making Back To School.

Fear Factory are definitely hugely influential, but again I don't see them as nu metal as such. Bizarrely I love FF, but absolutely hated the metalcore stuff in the mid 00s that veered from death growls to operatics and was clearly . Killswitch were a band I particularly loathed as it all seemed overly theatrical in a way that Burton's didn't.

A mate of mine has a bit of a catchphrase which is 'all metal is funny', which is kind of right really. Some raises a smirk, but it's when you're laughing at it that it's a problem. Related, I just had a look back at Killswitch's version of Holy Diver. Ridiculous.

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

I am of the right age bracket for this thread. Strongly disliked Limp Bizkit at the time, but I was a massive SOAD, Deftones, KORN and Slipknot fan. Listening back to LB now, it is extremely slickly produced, some good bouncy riffs and grooves, and Fred Durst is just..well he is what he is. All the macho white-boy angst/rape culture I can do without, and I feel any good will towards it is mostly purely nostaliga based.

Still, the mid-late 90s is a much maligned time for 'heavy' music, but for me it contains some really good stuff, mixed up in some terrible trend-hopping, post-grunge, crap. The last hurrah of the CD-era. I think maybe people forget quite how big LB where. Significant Other sold 7 million copies in the US alone, and Chocolate Starfish... sold 6 million. The biggest selling album of 2018 was Drake's Scorpion, it sold 330,000 copies in the US. I appreciate it is a different music industry-era and sales model/streaming based, but Fred Durst was made an a talent scout at Interscope, directed movies. Crazy when you look back.

Anyway, I feel its time for me to post some nu-metal BANGERZ, some well known, some hopefully less well known.

Obvious stuff:

Korn - Ball Tongue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQsfIn7_lQQ

Deftones - Be Quiet and Drive (Team Sleep Version) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi8V4G6FSlQ

SOAD - War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F46r-_jPPHY

Slipknot - Spit it Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUZwriSX4M

Static-X - Push It https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps0MfBG5-Uo

Sepultura (not a nu-metal band, but Roots v influential) - Attitude (live session) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkDHoMG7GU

More under the radar stuff:

Chimaira - Painting the White to Gray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOxURZju2CU

Snot - Snot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrSxWlyGW-8

Five Pointe O - Double X https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5xoYrgX9rE

Downer - Bi-Furious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDJoX9Ywuek

Boy Hits Car - The Rebirth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Rde_c0ZG4

The Apex Theory - Apossibly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW2KaAgNcN4

American Head Charge - Just So You Know (Total Mike Patton worship) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJx2RqwYBNE

Nothingface - Bleeder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6uawGBDGCg

Cheezy post-grunge nu-metal, but still quite good songs: (deffo guilty pleasures)

Fingertight - Guilt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLljjRaK-EA

Pressure 4-5 - Beat The World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjvesZw-XtQ

Revis - Caught In The Rain - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn_zhdYFABE

Two hilariously of their time videos that couldn't be anymore nu-metal if they tried

From Zero - Check Ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsl-TodL5sI

Lifer - Boring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGN6sj6-3HI  (this one especially is like an SNL parody sketch of a nu metal song)



Anyway, all this stuff was a gateway to all the 'proper' bands, but there is still some stuff I listen to know, well,  Deftones pretty much.

[Twed]

I would just like to point out that by extension, madhair also thinks that lostprophets and Ian Watkins are "good fun". Please remember this fact about madhair60.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Nickelback weren't Nu Metal.

For a start, nu metal bands had to have a DJ in the group. That's what the "nu" was all about after all. Also they had no rapping.

They were more shit metal.

They weren't even metal, were they?

Were Rage against the Machine nu metal? They had rapping and DJ sounds (albeit made on the guitar) but I've never really thought of them as fitting in with the genre. Possibly because they weren't shit.

[Dr Sanchez]

They weren't even metal, were they?

Were Rage against the Machine nu metal? They had rapping and DJ sounds (albeit made on the guitar) but I've never really thought of them as fitting in with the genre. Possibly because they weren't shit.

No not really, I just liked the term Shit metal. I have a friend who liked early Nickelback and he says their music used to be heavy but I don't have the stomach to check.

Rage Against The Machine were around in the early 90s so they can't really be classified as nu metal but google says they are so they must be..

/Rap metal
Funk metal
Alternative metal
Nu metal
Rap rock/

[Twed]

Rage Against The Machine were around in the early 90s so they can't really be classified as nu metal but google says they are so they must be..

You'd have to start including bands like Jane's Addiction by that point. No, they're not nu-metal, but I think nu-metal evolved from that. Throw away the funk, keep the groove but turn it into a muddy down-tuned guitar thing, make the singer growl and you're closer to nu-metal.

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

Faith No More and Mr. Bungle + Grunge + Alt-Metal = nu-metal. Basically all Mike Patton's fault.

[alan nagsworth]

There's nowt "nu" about it now anyway is there? Spineshank is basically classic rock now.

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

There's nowt "nu" about it now anyway is there? Spineshank is basically classic rock now.

Well its "nu" in the same way Modern art is "modern".


Yes, I just compared the most influential art movement of the 20th Century with....some Euros doing goofy paintings...natch

[Dr Syntax Head]

Limp Bizkit with a decent frontman would have been a genuinely good band.

I like how in the My Way video Wes avoids black face offence by just painting his whole self black and his face white. Very clever see what you did there Wes.

[madhair60]

Dedicated to you, Ben Stiller; you are my favourite motherfucker

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

My name's Coby Dick, Mr Dick if you're nasty
I rock the mic with a voice that's raspy



CUT MY LIFE IN TO PIECES

[The Lion King]

I saw Hed (PE) recently in a tiny venue in a nearby town. I was intrigued to see what kind of material they were gonna play. Imagine my surprise when all members of the band but one look about 19 years old. Turns out it was just the singer from the original outfit, and he owns the rights to the band  name. There weren't many people there, and he sang lots of  dub versions of some of their tracks. Was pretty good. Although he did insist on making innapropriate-for-the-venue-size demands of the crowd like telling everyone to chant 'fuck trump'. They were off to play in minehead after!

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

Haha, I actually paid real money to watch Alien Ant Farm and POD recently (I only wanted to watch the support band '68). Surprisingly big crowd. Shite music.

[madhair60]

Alien Ant Farm are reet

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

Yeah, they were actually both okay. I did enjoy myself. Christian rock music can get fucked though.

[mrpupkin]

No that's good as well. All bets are off.

[Al Tha Funkee Homosapien]

SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU

[Twed]

You know whats better than all of these bands? System of a Down (if you pretend that the big singles that douchebags liked didn't exist, like fucking Toxicity).

Sugar is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBGOrI6yBk

[Dr Syntax Head]

You know whats better than all of these bands? System of a Down (if you pretend that the big singles that douchebags liked didn't exist, like fucking Toxicity).

Sugar is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBGOrI6yBk

That riff is mega simple but mega brilliant. Their big hit put me off them as well as thinking I already have RATM and at the drive in to enjoy already. Maybe I'll explore the system a bit more I dunno

[Dr Sanchez]

I didn't like the faces System Of A Down pulled in their videos. It was like they were trying way too hard to look mentally disturbed.

[Dr Syntax Head]

Facial expressions in nu metal videos were proper annoying in general. That papa roach video for one was a major culprit. Having to see Fred Durst's face whatever the expression was the worst though. The most punchable face in rock.

[Twed]

Facial expressions in nu metal videos were proper annoying in general. That papa roach video for one was a major culprit. Having to see Fred Durst's face whatever the expression was the worst though. The most punchable face in rock.

Like Jack Black but 100% obnoxious

[Twed]

Pat Mustard

[Twed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Afj9qcP2U0

Suite Pee was the best one. Especially the garden bit.