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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2019, 09:46:41 PM »
Probably the greatest DVD commentary of all.

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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2019, 09:51:11 PM »
I'm trying to confirm a theory - in the liner notes for the Herbie Hancock album Man-Child, it mentions a dismissive review of the later 1983 album Future Shock referred to it as "Future Shit".

I'm wondering if the review JUST said "Future Shit" and that's where "Shit Sandwich" came from. The review would only have been a year old when the film came out.

It's funny anyway, but I'd love to be right. Just don't know how to find the interview.

Right digging my copy out the now.

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2019, 08:48:43 AM »
there are as many claims to having been the inspiration for the band &/or the events of the movie as there are guitars in nigel's collection. the pod is probably rightfully claimed by bill nelson & be bop deluxe; the remains of the last surviving pod they had made for stage use is on the sleeve art for 'sunburst finish', on one side with a naked lass in it, holding a burning guitar aloft, & on the other with them all stuck in it.

Another source for the getting trapped in the pod (as mentioned in, if memory serves, the non-in-character commentary on the Criterion) was one show on Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans tour, where Alan White appears from a giant clamshell which was supposed to open up, but that one gig it didn't and he carried on playing whilst the roadies and stage hands tried to break it open with drills and hammers.

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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2019, 10:30:38 AM »
Something similar happens in Slade In Flame as well.

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2019, 12:39:49 PM »
When it comes to tales of (prog) rock excess few can come near Rick Wakeman. His eating curry on stage during a concert is legendary (and true by his own account https://www.facebook.com/yestheband/photos/a.763075527037771/967363336608988/?type=1&theater  )

If you get past the line "Jon (Anderson) came over and he did have a poppadom" without at least a smile then there is no hope for your comedy bones. 

I met the great man a little while ago and he was a true gent as well as a raconteur of the first order. He lent me a pair of gloves for the evening (long story) and I was hoping they might magically improve my piano technique by some kind of musical osmosis. No such luck... I'm still shite.

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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2019, 02:08:36 PM »
When it comes to tales of (prog) rock excess few can come near Rick Wakeman. His eating curry on stage during a concert is legendary (and true by his own account

That was him rallying AGAINST the excess, though - got bored on the Tales tour cos the set had become bigger than the band, Anderson and Howe were going a bit OTT with the spiritual stuff, Squire was allegedly in the middle of a very pricey nose powder habit (which is, if the rumours are true, what fucked his adenoids), he thought the music was mostly shit and there were long sections where he had absolutely nothing to do, plus it actually stemmed from one of the roadies misunderstanding/mishearing him as he originally said "I fancy a curry", meaning after the show, which got mistaken as "get me a curry now".  Cos he enjoyed it and it gave him something to do, it became a regular thing for the rest of the tour.

Of course, that anti-excess stance against what Yes had started to do is rather ironic given what his subsequent couple of live solo shows were like...

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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2019, 03:12:41 PM »
he thought the music was mostly shit and there were long sections where he had absolutely nothing to do,

Getting off the topic here, but that kind of sums up Rick in Yes... it always seems like he didn't join the band, just played with the band. Tony Kaye may not have had the chops or capes that Rick did, but at least he sounded like a member of the band rather than a guest artist flown in from afar.

Anyway back to the matter in hand, and so say all of us, Tap is the best movie around. I didn't "get it" on first watching because I'd hired 2 VHSs that weekend, Spinal Tap and the AC/DC "Let There Be Rock" concert movie. Needless to say they both looked the same and Angus, Bon and his chums made Nigel and David and Derek look totally credible. . The revealing moment came for me on the next watch on "none more black"....

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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 03:16:20 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2019, 04:40:08 PM »
I didn't "get it" on first watching because I'd hired 2 VHSs that weekend, Spinal Tap and the AC/DC "Let There Be Rock" concert movie. Needless to say they both looked the same and Angus, Bon and his chums made Nigel and David and Derek look totally credible. . The revealing moment came for me on the next watch on "none more black"....

This reminds me of one of my favourite things about the film.  When asked about it in some documentary, people like Ozzie Osbourne and Jimmy Page were saying how they didn't think it was funny at all when they watched it.  Simply because they had already experienced everything in the film and even more outlandish things.
They just assumed it was a normal documentary.

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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2019, 05:02:51 PM »
Apparently* they even edited the film in character. Derek, David and Nigel cut all the bits which they thought made them look ridiculous. Which is excellent, obviously.


*Or so I have read...




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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2019, 05:03:11 PM »
The whole Bruno Kirby scene is so perfect I love it. I regularly say "When you've loved and lost like Frank has "

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2019, 05:07:13 PM »
I met the great man a little while ago and he was a true gent as well as a raconteur of the first order.

I used to think that, but his material's stuck in the world of the 1970s working mens' clubs (see his horrendous speech at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, where he used up all the available time and meant Chris Squire's family didn't get a mention) and he gives off the air of your average Brexit-voting, Tory-supporting, mates-with-Jim-Davidson sort of twat.

His autobiography's great though. It out-Partridges Partridge for its "needless to say I had the last laugh"-ness.

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2019, 05:17:29 PM »
If we're hating on Rick Wakeman, can I say that one benefit of Simon Mayo throwing his toys out of the pram and fucking off to start his own radio station that no-one will listen to, is that no longer will Rick Wakeman appear on Radio 2 drive time to explain every Christmas how he put the 'twiddly bits' onto Life on Mars? The cunt.

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2019, 06:44:32 PM »
Has anyone read Inside Spinal Tap by the wonderfully-named Peter Occhiogrosso? Compiled of interviews and stills, which I assume were culled from unused footage. One good line I remember was from when the band is asked about using drugs at a press conference and Nigel goes off about the water in front of him, how water is a drug, how you get up and splash it on your face in the morning, it's a drug.

Christopher Guest has made some fine mockumentaries in his time, but nothing comes close to how natural TISS feels. I suppose it's down the fact that they genuinely shot it like a documentary and whittled it down from hours and hours of footage.

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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2019, 08:40:06 PM »
I love that Nigel says "my vision" when he gets shot in the eyes by the laser. Not "sight". So much funnier.

Haha yes. I also love the half-arsed "woooii" they all do when saluting the half-inflated devil.

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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2019, 09:25:07 PM »
Has anyone read Inside Spinal Tap by the wonderfully-named Peter Occhiogrosso? Compiled of interviews and stills, which I assume were culled from unused footage. One good line I remember was from when the band is asked about using drugs at a press conference and Nigel goes off about the water in front of him, how water is a drug, how you get up and splash it on your face in the morning, it's a drug.


I've not read it but I've heard that before, I think it's on the deleted scenes on the DVD.

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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2019, 09:37:29 PM »
I used to think that, but his material's stuck in the world of the 1970s working mens' clubs (see his horrendous speech at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, where he used up all the available time and meant Chris Squire's family didn't get a mention) and he gives off the air of your average Brexit-voting, Tory-supporting, mates-with-Jim-Davidson sort of twat.

His autobiography's great though. It out-Partridges Partridge for its "needless to say I had the last laugh"-ness.

Oddly enough the evening Rick Wakeman offered me his gloves was a Masonic function and also present was Jim 'nick-nick' Davidson.

Your informed comment suggests you must have been there too?

In order to keep on topic(ish) can I point out that the volume control on the BBC iPlayer goes up to eleven in what is surely homage to Tap?

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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2019, 10:18:25 PM »
Your informed comment suggests you must have been there too?

Only informed in the sense that both of them have at various points declared that they're mates. Which doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2019, 11:47:10 PM »
In order to keep on topic(ish) can I point out that the volume control on the BBC iPlayer goes up to eleven in what is surely homage to Tap?

It is deliberate, yes. I've always thought that was a nice little touch.

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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2019, 12:16:43 AM »
We all know about its IMDB rating, don't we:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/

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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2019, 01:17:23 AM »
That was him rallying AGAINST the excess, though - got bored on the Tales tour cos the set had become bigger than the band, Anderson and Howe were going a bit OTT with the spiritual stuff, Squire was allegedly in the middle of a very pricey nose powder habit (which is, if the rumours are true, what fucked his adenoids), he thought the music was mostly shit and there were long sections where he had absolutely nothing to do, plus it actually stemmed from one of the roadies misunderstanding/mishearing him as he originally said "I fancy a curry", meaning after the show, which got mistaken as "get me a curry now".  Cos he enjoyed it and it gave him something to do, it became a regular thing for the rest of the tour.

Of course, that anti-excess stance against what Yes had started to do is rather ironic given what his subsequent couple of live solo shows were like...

Yeah, Wakeman notoriously exaggerates for comic effect, and many of his stories are embroidered, if not apocryphal. And as metaltax says elsewhere, his speech hogging the limelight at Yes's Hall of Fame induction meant Chris Squire's widow and daughter didn't have time to deliver their speech (even though the tribute to Squire was the reason Wakeman - who'd fallen out with Howe and Downes - gave for reluctantly attending the ceremony).

In an OGWT interview it seems Wakeman was very happy with the Topographic tour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31PN3ufvjUQ. Maybe he was playing nice, but there's an element of self-mythologising with him that's occasionally amusing but unreliable.

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Re: This Is Spinal Tap - 35 Years Old
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2019, 01:44:44 AM »
In order to keep on topic(ish) can I point out that the volume control on the BBC iPlayer goes up to eleven in what is surely homage to Tap?

It is deliberate, yes. I've always thought that was a nice little touch.

Nah, it's witless s4c.




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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2019, 10:57:34 AM »
In order to keep on topic(ish) can I point out that the volume control on the BBC iPlayer goes up to eleven in what is surely homage to Tap?

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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2019, 09:32:42 PM »
Speaking of the BBC, Marc Riley devoted nearly a full half hour this evening to the greatness of Tap, including a full litany of their ex-members and bizarrely mistaking one of the most famous lines in A Hard Day's Night for a Rutles gag (starts @1:32:07):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000471f

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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2019, 10:19:34 PM »
Speaking of the BBC, Marc Riley devoted nearly a full half hour this evening to the greatness of Tap, including a full litany of their ex-members and bizarrely mistaking one of the most famous lines in A Hard Day's Night for a Rutles gag (starts @1:32:07):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000471f

The revelation that Viv Savage died when he was visiting Mick Shrimpton's grave and it exploded!

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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2019, 10:53:34 PM »
"This twisted old fruit here tells me that you have ballsed up my reservations..."

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« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2019, 04:06:31 AM »
This Is Spinal Tap is perfect. The only other faultlessly brilliant and hilarious comedy films in the entire history of cinema are Life Of Brian, Holy Grail, Duck Soup, Woody Allen's Love & Death and pretty much the entire pre-Fox canon of Laurel and Hardy.

It is without peer (apart from those other films I just mentioned).

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« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2019, 09:08:55 AM »
The interview over the end credits where Nigel discusses what he’d be doing were he not in a band is solid gold. Something about working in a haberdashery or shoe shop then role playing a scenario with a customer. Incredible.

I’ve just bought the special edition Blu Ray (having already got the 2 dvd version) off the back of this thread. Can’t wait to wallow in the Tap for a few hours when it turns up.

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« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2019, 12:50:11 PM »
The interview over the end credits where Nigel discusses what he’d be doing were he not in a band is solid gold. Something about working in a haberdashery or shoe shop then role playing a scenario with a customer. Incredible.

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Nigel Tufnel: Well, I suppose I could work in a shop of some kind or... or do um... freelance... selling of some sort of... um... product, you know...

Marty DiBergi: A salesman, you think you...

Nigel Tufnel: A salesman, like, maybe in a haberdasher, or maybe like a... um, a chapeau shop, or something... you know, like: "Would you... what size do you wear, sir?" and then you answer me.

Marty DiBergi: Uh... seven and a quarter.

Nigel Tufnel: "I think we have that...", you see, something like that I could do.

Marty DiBergi: Yeah... you think you'd be happy doing something like-...

Nigel Tufnel: "No! We're all out, do you wear black?", see, that sort of thing, I think I could probably muster up.

Marty DiBergi: Yeah, do you think you'd be happy doing that?

Nigel Tufnel: Well, I don't know, wh-wh-what are the hours?

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« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2019, 06:50:49 PM »
That’s it!

“What are the hours?”

Perfect.