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Paedophile hunters

Started by BritishHobo, April 28, 2019, 09:24:46 PM

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Noonling

Quote from: Sin Agog on April 29, 2019, 11:28:07 AM
(and I don't think a celibate paedophile has done anything wrong- in a way they're more noble than I am by far)

You are presumably attracted to adults and presumably manage not to rape them. I do agree there needs to be more support, but being a paedophile and managing not to rape children is hardly commendable.

Sin Agog

When I said celibate paedophile, I was thinking not masturbating, not entertaining your sexuality in any way whatsoever.

Noonling

If you mean not wanking to child abuse images then still, unnotable. Avoiding even wanking to thoughts of children etc - yeah I guess that's good?

Are many paedophiles exclusively attracted to children I wonder? A lot of paedophiles are married or have a partner, obviously this is sometimes a ruse to get closer to the partner's children or as a cover, but presumably a fair amount of the time they are actually attracted to their partner and can pursue adult relationships.

Sin Agog

Contrary to what I just said in another thread, a healthy sex life and sexuality can be an important thing in maintaining a sound and balanced psyche.  Obviously that's out of the question if you're a paedophile wih any sense of decency.  Ergo, you are making some sort of sacrifice, albeit a necessary and obvious one, that norms existing in sexual parity aren't.

phantom_power

Quote from: Noonling on April 29, 2019, 01:55:54 PM
You are presumably attracted to adults and presumably manage not to rape them. I do agree there needs to be more support, but being a paedophile and managing not to rape children is hardly commendable.

OK but imagine if your being attracted to adults was a shameful thing that you couldn't admit to or act out on in any way whatsoever. Imagine being forced to be celibate and how the urges, for want of a better word, built up. And then being told by society as a whole that you were evil and wrong and beyond redemption.

I am in no way condoning any sort of sexual behaviour with children but if you try and put yourselves in the shoes of someone in that situation for a minute I don't know how you can fail to see that this would cause problems for people who otherwise wouldn't break the law. I don't know how much of a fiction it is but isn't sexual shame, enforced celibacy (by strict parents or religion etc) and abuse the background of a lot of serial killers and rapists?

Jockice

Quote from: phantom_power on April 29, 2019, 02:03:27 PM
OK but imagine if your being attracted to adults was a shameful thing that you couldn't admit to or act out on in any way whatsoever. Imagine being forced to be celibate and how the urges, for want of a better word, built up. And then being told by society as a whole that you were evil and wrong and beyond redemption.

I am in no way condoning any sort of sexual behaviour with children but if you try and put yourselves in the shoes of someone in that situation for a minute I don't know how you can fail to see that this would cause problems for people who otherwise wouldn't break the law. I don't know how much of a fiction it is but isn't sexual shame, enforced celibacy (by strict parents or religion etc) and abuse the background of a lot of serial killers and rapists?

A friend of mine was recently spouting off about Michael Jackson saying what he'd got up to was disgusting and how he himself would never do anything to boys that age and he doesn't know how anyone could. Well I presume he doesn't fancy boys that age (or males at all, being married to a woman and all that) so it would be pretty easy to resist this non-existent temptation. It's like me suddenly really wanting a curry. It ain't gonna happen.

There was a programme on Channel 4 a couple of years ago called The Paedophile Next Door, which featured someone who had those urges (atlhough towards girls rather than boys) but said he'd never abused and never would abuse a child. I actually thought  he had a lot of guts to go on TV and admit that. At the end of the show it said he'd gone abroad for treatment. I hope it worked.

I get the impression that some of this lot will trawl adult sites for bites too though. I've registered on a couple of sites over the years designed to facilitate individuals with adult interests, and on a few occasions have been confronted with someone offering or requesting images. I assumed it was these hunter types imagining that those with interests that go beyond missionary sex in a committed relationship are potentially wrong uns, but can't be sure and have reported them as I found them.

I also have mixed feelings about the hunters. They are doing a job that the police either can't or won't, but criticism over the way they go about it is entirely warranted. There definitely is a perverse kick they get out of it, and the filming and line of questioning is undoubtedly designed to humiliate.

Equally, I have had some great fun watching some of the videos. Shane Brannigan brought a great deal of laughs the last time this topic was brought up. 

Cuellar

Who was the one who started shouting Bob Dylan lyrics into a nonce's terrified face?

Quote from: Cuellar on April 29, 2019, 02:17:14 PM
Who was the one who started shouting Bob Dylan lyrics into a nonce's terrified face?

This was Brannigan!

Sadly deleted now I believe.

Cuellar

Aha! Damn. This thread title stirred that memory in me and I was going to go looking for it, shame.

Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on April 29, 2019, 11:23:24 AM
They mainly use Facebook, which I don't think gives them money.

Accepted, but their merch is lit.

Here's a bit of a greatest hits - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXUQuqIhVFk

Hopefully it's on this.

sponk

Quote from: phantom_power on April 29, 2019, 01:32:20 PM
How admissible is any of it as evidence? Is it not entrapment?

It is admissible because as the link I posted earlier showed, there have been 150+ charges based on paedo hunter evidence, and as far as I'm aware, no charges for entrapment for paedo hunters.

imitationleather

Quote from: drummersaredeaf on April 29, 2019, 02:21:22 PM
Here's a bit of a greatest hits - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXUQuqIhVFk

Hopefully it's on this.

That guy seems like a total dick.

Sorry lads, I really do not understand why you find this stuff entertaining.

(Just Googled him. He's EDL. Massive surprise.)

Sin Agog

If Ray Mears or Joe Rogan or Bear Grylls suddenly expressed an interest in Stranger Things for all the wrong reasons, would that also make them paedophile hunters?

Flouncer

Girl From the Nonce Country
It's All Right, Ma (I'm Only Noncing)
I'll Fuck Your Baby Tonight

Fambo Number Mive

Quote from: imitationleather on April 29, 2019, 02:30:21 PM
That guy seems like a total dick.

Sorry lads, I really do not understand why you find this stuff entertaining.

(Just Googled him. He's EDL. Massive surprise.)

Is he? I did not know that.

chveik

Honey, Just Allow Me One More Nonce

sponk

Quote from: imitationleather on April 29, 2019, 02:30:21 PM
That guy seems like a total dick.

Sorry lads, I really do not understand why you find this stuff entertaining.

(Just Googled him. He's EDL. Massive surprise.)

I must admit I found this sting entertaining (watch it from 30-45 seconds) and some of the comments funny.

QuoteYou shat it with this one 😂😂😂

Why didn't you try and keep the door open and threaten with taking him to the ground by citizens arrest like everyone else?

Straight White British Protestant
5 months ago
Why didn't the hunters try to jam the door open or threaten to citizens arrest Otto?

They must only do that for disabled and special needs pedos.

Jack Valentine
5 months ago
In Soviet Russia Paedophiles hunt you.


You lot proper shat it, no big man act today ha.

Howard Shields
8 months ago
There wasn't much hunting going on there, more like they shat there pants and ran off 😂😂😂😂😂😂


ItsStevieBoy
5 months ago
Weren't so tough this time were you boys 😅
Leon Wynne
5 months ago
Tonight on worlds toughest paedophiles!


Eunice Mumbit Trill
7 months ago
"I absolutely love it, this video is the best ever" see them skidaddle across the street ffs why set the man up that could hardly speak English ffs, I'd watch ya backs big Otto will be back he be your nightmare 😂😁🤣😂😁😂🤣🤣😂😁 look how you sound like mice calling him peadophile from across the street, how hilarious....

liam green
7 months ago
How come you didn't stop him going back inside???

Gavin James
3 months ago
Lol, hiding across the road behind a police car 😂😂 I love how these guys only get big and tough when the nonce is scared of them. Otherwise these guys whisper the,selves like little school girls

Pythoner
4 months ago
What a pair of numpties 😂
Would have been even funnier if Shane Brannigan was here instead and tried his 'ard man act 😂


Fambo Number Mive

I don't find any of them funny and the attempts by a couple of paedo hunters to make "jokes" annoy me. Nonce bingo can piss off as well. There's nothing funny about paedophilia.

(Yes, I know there is the Brass Eye Special, but most of that is more about how the media reports paedophilia)

Quote from: imitationleather on April 29, 2019, 02:30:21 PM
That guy seems like a total dick.

Sorry lads, I really do not understand why you find this stuff entertaining.

(Just Googled him. He's EDL. Massive surprise.)

Brannigan in particular has come out with some gems. And yes, I see where you're coming from, but I went back to the old thread the last time this was brought up to find the Dylan song he was singing and found a post I made on there about the chat logs on his site, which are utterly appalling in their content. It is a strange position where you feel sorry for the guy being berated on account of the behaviour of the people that are there to (ostensibly) bring them to justice.

Yes, it would be better if the police did this. Yes, I would rather if they absolutely had to do the hunting that it was less about them making it about their own ego and looking like mob rule. But also - is there something inherently amusing about a very angry guy screaming Bob Dylan lyrics into the face of a guy who has just gotten off the tube in order to commit an outrageously bad offence? I'm pretty certain there is.

Flouncer

Noncin' on Heaven's Door
Gates of Paeden
Masturbation Row

Sin Agog


Gerald Fjord

Phwoar look at you lot, well into this aren't you? Know all about the paedo hunting don't you? Sit at home, watching them get the nonces in, laughing at crying bald men in anoraks. ahahaa he's a would be abuser and his life is destroyed ahahaha. Ahahah, look at the thick racists I love, giving it to the stupid stinking paedos. Ahahahahaha, ahahaha, Bob Dylan, he's singing Bob Dylan, ahahahahahahahahaha but on a serious note if the police aren't going to do it and when they arrest them they just put them in Butlins gotta do it ourselves and by "we" i mean a bunch of sub tommy robinsons ahahahaha, ahahaha look at the paedo swing from that bough ahahahaha Bob Dylan.

Worse than nonces, you lot.

Flouncer

I Shall Be Released [from prison after serving a five year stretch for sexually abusing children]

Elderly Sumo Prophecy


Cuellar

Paedophile Be Your Baby Tonight

Tangled Up In Blue Movies of Kids

phantom_power

Quote from: sponk on April 29, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
It is admissible because as the link I posted earlier showed, there have been 150+ charges based on paedo hunter evidence, and as far as I'm aware, no charges for entrapment for paedo hunters.

A charge is not a conviction though

Plus "The data only confirms that the evidence was used in some part. It does not suggest that the vigilantes' actions were solely responsible for charges being brought."

Flouncer

Only Child Porn in Their Game

chveik

See that My Stash is Kept Clean