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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #270 on: June 14, 2019, 02:04:02 AM »
The hysteria surrounding it basically makes any real, useful discussion impossible - even among your peers.  And I remember one psychologist publicly advocating against increasingly harsh jail sentences and emphasizing the importance of available and new treatments, so naturally everyone assumed he must be a paedo himself.  In online discussion, I’ve  seen that happen almost instantly whenever someone even tries to offer a bit of nuance.  Bizarrely, these people seem to think the status quo now is fine and works and they just get to marvel at the monsters on parade, but it’s doing absolutely nothing to examine or address the actual issue.

The issue itself is also murky as fuck now, thanks to the conflation of “statutory rape” and outright paedophilia/child molestation.

Hear, hear.  Well said.


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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #271 on: June 14, 2019, 06:47:19 AM »
The hysteria surrounding it basically makes any real, useful discussion impossible - even among your peers.  And I remember one psychologist publicly advocating against increasingly harsh jail sentences and emphasizing the importance of available and new treatments, so naturally everyone assumed he must be a paedo himself.  In online discussion, I’ve  seen that happen almost instantly whenever someone even tries to offer a bit of nuance.  Bizarrely, these people seem to think the status quo now is fine and works and they just get to marvel at the monsters on parade, but it’s doing absolutely nothing to examine or address the actual issue.

The issue itself is also murky as fuck now, thanks to the conflation of “statutory rape” and outright paedophilia/child molestation.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #272 on: June 14, 2019, 01:11:15 PM »
How can you "accidentally" put fake teeth on someone?

By sausage-fingeredly hitting an amusing filter button on your Facebook livestream.

Unless you were asking for actual advice unrelated to nonces.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #273 on: June 14, 2019, 01:46:29 PM »
By sausage-fingeredly hitting an amusing filter button on your Facebook livestream.

I imagine all peadophile hunters to have sausage fingers.  Great big sloping foreheads too.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #274 on: June 14, 2019, 02:33:47 PM »
At a wedding last summer, one of the guests - a lad in his early twenties - took a shine to me and everywhere I turned, there he was.  I don't know why - I was only playing in the band that had been hired. 

Anyway, I just started chatting to him and he just kept saying, "Oh, I wish I could play the guitar.  Be on a band and all that.."  I told him he could learn to play the guitar and he could be in a band if he felt like doing those things.  He just shook his head as if I was telling him he could grow to being ten feet tall if he put his mind to it.  That happened frequently.

Later, in the queue for food, I found him stood behind me again and this time he said, "Do you know what I really want to do?"  I resisted asking him if he wanted to play he guitar and be in a band because he and his family were rough as arseholes, and said, "No, what do you really want to do?"

"Paedophile hunter" he said, like he was telling me he wanted to go and find a cure for cancer or something.  Which is probably along the lines of what he thought.

I asked him why he wanted to do that and he didn't seem to know why. He didn't seem worried about getting paid for it or anything either.

Maybe that's it.  Maybe these people really want to perform some civil duty but have no skills or desire to learn how to actually do anything and this is the best they can come up with.

I think they want patting on the back for serving a community and being like Robin Hood or something and this is he best they can do, based on watching/appearing on things like Jeremy Kyle, which is basically the same thing, isn't it?  Shouting at somebody in front of an audience of their peers.

Funny business, but not very surprising I suppose.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #275 on: June 14, 2019, 02:39:13 PM »
I think they want patting on the back for serving a community and being like Robin Hood or something...

That something being Batman.  Batman Beyond Pathetic.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #276 on: June 14, 2019, 03:05:59 PM »
I think all paedo hunters are closet paedos. Not the most original take, but there you go.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #277 on: June 14, 2019, 03:09:25 PM »
Case at Chester Crown Court today about another paedophile hunter who's a surprise paedophile.

I suppose it's the perfect cover, really. Those hunters claim such moral authority among their fans, towering over crumpled men who've abused children. They're seen as infallible heroes by Facebook fans, who are driven by an admirable disgust for the criminals. There may even be an aspect of that in his own motivation- maybe he justifies to himself that he's not a bad one because he goes out and stops the bad ones. A way of asserting power over his own desires, to show that he IS against paedophilia.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #278 on: June 14, 2019, 03:12:28 PM »
Yep. Classic projection.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #279 on: June 14, 2019, 03:13:31 PM »
paedophile hunter who's a surprise paedophile

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #280 on: June 14, 2019, 05:56:59 PM »
The worst part for me though was the text contained within the article itself...

A fully grown woman there, who willfully chose to act as the bait in a sting, blaming a peadophile for her missing work and not eating or sleeping, due to her disgust.  Nobody forced you to act as bait, you stupid, cretinous cunt.

Just watched one like this! It's still going, live, but I dashed over here because it reminded me of your post. It was an unexpectedly civil video for the first bit. He seemed to be taking it fairly stoically, and they were chatting to him in quite a chill, reasonable way. One of them hands him some papers to roll a fag. Then one of them goes 'THE DECOY CAN CALL HIM NOW.' Like she's calling in an airstrike in secret code. 'THE DECOY CAN CALL NOW'.

They hand him his phone and tell him to answer. He tries to answer but the inevitable daftness of technology means there's a moment of quiet faffing while he and one of the paedo hunters jab at the screen. And then there she is, her voice blaring through. 'I CAN'T SLEEP. The things you've said to me have disgusted me. I can't sleep.' He apologises, but she won't apologise. 'You've destroyed me!' She says.

It sounds a little like bollocks to me. If it's not bollocks then why on earth are they employing someone vulnerable to do that? Do they realise the point of a decoy is that it's not actually a child? It can be someone with the training and the strength not to be affected? Why on fuck's earth, when picking out someone to chat to flirt with and lure a paedophile, would you choose someone who would be easily and heavily affected by it?

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #281 on: June 14, 2019, 06:00:57 PM »
I understand the concerns over the stings and the conduct of some of the hunters, but saying you hate them more than paedophiles is utterly deranged and a sign that you're completely morally bankrupt or don't understand the seriousness of child abuse.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #282 on: June 14, 2019, 06:10:27 PM »
I understand the concerns over the stings and the conduct of some of the hunters, but saying you hate them more than paedophiles is utterly deranged and a sign that you're completely morally bankrupt or don't understand the seriousness of child abuse.

Yes, clearly I'm an immoral monster and I think that child abuse isn't that all that bad.  Clearly you've got my number.  Clearly.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #283 on: June 14, 2019, 06:13:13 PM »
I don't think anyone has said they actively hate anybody. People here are just taking a slightly detached third person perspective on it all, and looking on in horror at the whole thing.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #284 on: June 14, 2019, 06:24:05 PM »
I don't think anyone has said they actively hate anybody.

To be fair, I did (which is what sponk was responding to, in his/her post)...

It's been said many times before within this thread but it bears repeating; you know that somethings seriously fucked up with these hunters, when you end up hating them more than you do the peadophile themselves.  These people are the worst.  The absolute worst.  This hunting shit needs to be made illegal.  Every time that I watch one of these video (not something I make a habit of, I'm glad to say), I end up fuming and wanting to kick the living shit out of the hunters.  I loathe ignorance and stupidity, especially when it goes hand in hand with causing more harm than good and these hunters are the living embodiment of everything that I despise about humanity.  They're one step shy of getting out the torches and pitchforks.

Though I'm only filled with hatred whenever I watch one of these peadophile hunting videos, which is once in a blue moon.  I'm not seething with rage the rest of the time.  Well, not about this particular topic at any rate.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #285 on: June 14, 2019, 06:31:58 PM »
It doesn't help that they all seem quite earth shatteringly thick, like when they try and quote laws to justify what they're doing, but get the words all mixed up. The Yorkshire accent they tend to have in a lot of videos I've seen doesn't do them any favours either.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #286 on: June 17, 2019, 08:08:15 PM »
The most amazing tech issue I've seen with these otherwise cripplingly depressing livestreams is the case of the Wolf Pack Hunters (sadly no Kevin Nash or even a Konnan amongst them) accidentally activating a tie-in filter for lukewarm Aardman animation Early Man:

http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-paedo-hunters-accidentally-filter-man-they-are-catching-20181002



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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #287 on: June 18, 2019, 12:25:48 PM »
I understand the concerns over the stings and the conduct of some of the hunters, but saying you hate them more than paedophiles is utterly deranged and a sign that you're completely morally bankrupt or don't understand the seriousness of child abuse.

You'd have to be pretty obsessed with Paedophilia to become a Paedo Hunter though wouldn't you? Especially if you're not actually getting any reward for doing it.

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #288 on: June 18, 2019, 12:56:12 PM »
There's plenty of reward in stopping children being abused.

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #289 on: June 18, 2019, 09:45:38 PM »
i honestly hate sponk more than I hate paedophiles, who I think are mostly alright.

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #290 on: June 18, 2019, 09:55:52 PM »
i honestly hate sponk more than I hate paedophiles, who I think are mostly alright.

If you found out I was a paedophile would you hate me more or less?

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #291 on: June 18, 2019, 09:59:52 PM »
definitely less, but then if you outed yourself as a paedophile, as you're hinting you might, I'd have to hate you more as one of those self-hunting paedophiles.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #292 on: June 19, 2019, 07:39:42 AM »
i honestly hate sponk more than I hate paedophiles, who I think are mostly alright.

I know what you mean. John Wayne Gacy was at least good crack at parties.


Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #294 on: November 05, 2019, 12:37:19 AM »
What you want are paedophile hunter hunters. Bring the paedophile hunters to justice.

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #295 on: November 05, 2019, 12:41:43 AM »
I think this could be a good spin off series for Capcom

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #296 on: November 05, 2019, 01:30:53 PM »
What you want are paedophile hunter hunters. Bring the paedophile hunters to justice.

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Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #297 on: November 05, 2019, 02:51:02 PM »
You'd have to be pretty obsessed with Paedophilia to become a Paedo Hunter though wouldn't you? Especially if you're not actually getting any reward for doing it.

I don't agree.  Because they hunt peodos they're secretly peodos too? This seems to be the general consensus here but - with some rare exceptions -  I've never believed it.

A lot of people spend their spare time doing what they think is right. If someone spends their evenings volunteering for the Labour campaign I don't assume they're a secret Tory.

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #298 on: November 05, 2019, 03:26:46 PM »
I don't agree.  Because they hunt peodos they're secretly peodos too? This seems to be the general consensus here but - with some rare exceptions -  I've never believed it.

A lot of people spend their spare time doing what they think is right. If someone spends their evenings volunteering for the Labour campaign I don't assume they're a secret Tory.

Even if they’re obsessed by antisemism in the Labour Party?

Re: Paedophile hunters
« Reply #299 on: November 06, 2019, 03:24:20 AM »
I don't agree.  Because they hunt peodos they're secretly peodos too? This seems to be the general consensus here but - with some rare exceptions -  I've never believed it.

hasn't there been several instances of paedophile hunters turning out to be secret nonces? it doesn't seem healthy/helpful from any angle tbh