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Tuca and Bertie
« on: May 05, 2019, 06:15:42 PM »
Has anyone starting watching this on Netflix? I'm on episode 5 so far and I'm really enjoying it, it's a bit like Bojack Horseman in using animals-living-as-people but it's not as bleak. It's very funny and I think Bertie is awesome (Tuca is a bit selfish and annoying at times).

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 10:29:56 PM »
Was excited for it - tried to watch last night and gave up after 10 minutes. The tone just wasn't working for me and while I wasn't hating it, it didn't make me laugh at all. Will be interested in hearing if others say it picks up with familiarity after watching more episodes.

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 10:36:30 PM »
I don't think I can help, as I liked it from the beginning. I'm also experiencing my typical Netflix binge watch effect, with individual episodes all blurring into each other, but I'm enjoying it a lot.

I feel like I've seen certain plotlines many times - particularly Bertie's crush on the baker - but it's all played with such pep that it's difficult to get too bothered. I like the fact that it's willing to get more experimental with the visual style than most animated sitcoms.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 10:56:14 PM »
I like the experimental visuals as well, but it's a tad tryhard quirky for me at times. It also seems to have an identity problem, like they don't know what kind of show they want it to be. I like Tiffany Haddish, but Tuca does indeed seem to be pretty annoying. I can see it wearing thin. A few good gags in there though, couple o'chuckles.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 11:21:24 AM »
Some of the styling is a bit cringey, such as the big titles and whacky sound effects bombarding scenes that otherwise aren't very funny, but i like that it's not, yet another bleak Netflix dystopian thing, well, so far anyway... who knows how the season will develop, we could be onto The OA levels of multiple story arcs and multidimensional dancing by the end. I am enjoying it because I'm not investing too much into it, it's fun and dealing with relationships in a not-too-heavy way that's easy on my brain.

On the flip side, is this just another crushing example of the infantilisation of modern humanity and proof that we're so incapable of facing adult responsibilities and behaviour that we're losing ourselves in silly cartoons and convincing ourselves that it's appropriate?

But then again, is that part of what makes it so clever? Aaaaaaahhhhh... No.

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 03:32:31 PM »
Could only stomach 10 minutes of it. Too self conciously wacky for me. Any show that has to use PowerPoint slides with bullet points describing the characters' traits can get to fuck.

It's like Adventure Time for late twenty somethings.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 04:45:21 PM »
Was excited for it - tried to watch last night and gave up after 10 minutes. The tone just wasn't working for me and while I wasn't hating it, it didn't make me laugh at all. Will be interested in hearing if others say it picks up with familiarity after watching more episodes.

I was struggling after ten minutes as well and thought it just might not be for me, but then it picked up a lot, Tuca became a lot less annoying and it was far more imaginative, so I'd recommend watching the rest of it. Though if by the end it's not for you I'd completely understand.

Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2019, 11:01:38 AM »


It's like Adventure Time for late twenty somethings.

I thought Adventure Time was already mainly for late twenty somethings!

I like T&B a lot. I like the more adventurous animation compared to Bojack's relative conservatism in that area. Have to say I detect a big John K influence with the crazed motion of the duo in the intro, the hyperreal cutaways, the dilated-pupil puppydog eyes thing etc.. I know he's been cancelled and all that but it's there, plain as pie.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2019, 09:49:49 PM »
I thought Adventure Time was already mainly for late twenty somethings!

I like T&B a lot. I like the more adventurous animation compared to Bojack's relative conservatism in that area. Have to say I detect a big John K influence with the crazed motion of the duo in the intro, the hyperreal cutaways, the dilated-pupil puppydog eyes thing etc.. I know he's been cancelled and all that but it's there, plain as pie.

In the very first episode there was that "hyperreal cutaway" sting, but instead of cutting away, the tone just changed. That irked me a bit, because it seemed like such an obvious reference to R&S, but without the actual effort of a detailed close-up drawing. Still though, I've just finished Episode 7 of this and I think it's surprisingly heart warming and well written. The story is doing some predictable stuff (temptation outside the main relationship, best friends falling out) but I'm just giving in and enjoying the cheesiness and quirkiness of it all. I guess it fills the hole where most people probably have your average sitcoms. I also very much like the music! It's odd to hear stuff that's so dancey and electronic in this sort of show. I approve!

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2019, 10:03:59 PM »
Like Bojack Horseman on acid on acid.

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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2019, 05:10:27 AM »
I'm really enjoying it but must admit, I've barely laughed at all.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 01:21:07 PM »
This is like Broad City but with birds. Bird City.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2019, 04:04:09 PM »
I tried watching the first episode and it’s like a migraine on acid turned into a children’s cartoon for regressive liberal San Franciscan adults. The music is intensively hyper and annoying and the visual style is really ugly - why do all the female characters have tennis ball buttcheeks and boobies, even if the’re birds? And isn’t Tuca, as well as being an infantile white noise of unfunny, reinforcing quite severe racial stereotypes with her nonstop honking and twerking  and all round laziness and sleaziness. I counted maybe one chuckle and that was when Speckle boyfriend character was asked to freeze and I wanted to laugh at the introduction of the character that never reappears again. Episode picked up slightly with introduction of Pastry Pete. There’s bits of promise with visual gags and some unabashed cartoon zaniness but it all gets chucked out at once onto the screen in a frenzy and there is no timing or restraint whatsoever. And they flog jokes already too often. Gamby’s ashes being turned into a cake - funny. Gamby asking Speckles to eat her and down a gin and tonic so she can have a party in his stomach - funny. Actually showing Gamby cake having a party in his stomach with weird artsy perspective - not funny.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2019, 09:38:42 AM »
#Cancelled

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2019, 09:40:13 AM »
Saw someone on Twitter lamenting the cancellation saying that Bertie "losing her shit in the grocery store" made her feel validated and I'm like aye that's what comedy should be doing, making people feel validated. fuck sake. Bring it back 10/10

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2019, 12:13:13 PM »
#Cancelled

Bummer. I really liked it. Favourite part : when Tuca bursts into the cult she accidently started and yells "EVERYBODY FUCK OFF".


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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2019, 02:21:12 PM »
On the flip side, is this just another crushing example of the infantilisation of modern humanity and proof that we're so incapable of facing adult responsibilities and behaviour that we're losing ourselves in silly cartoons and convincing ourselves that it's appropriate?

What's wrong with escapism? It's not inappropriate. Helps you wind down if anything.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2019, 03:35:43 PM »
I watched about 10 minutes and found the character obnoxious and annoying. (can't remember if it was Tuca or Bertie, but she was the loud annoying one)  so I stopped, and I just felt like I instantly knew how the conflict was going to play out and get resolved.

Probably completely unfair, considering how Bojack surprised after a few episodes, but oh well.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2019, 03:47:48 PM »
Watched the first episode of this the day before it was cancelled, and thought it was all right. Liked the character comedy bits a wee bit more than the WOOOO LOUD AND CRAZY stuff, but that stuff has its place too. Sad to see it go, because it was a unique voice on telly (even if much of its tone and style was clearly influenced by web culture and comics).

That said, I am annoyed by some of the "fuck Netflix" crying I've seen on the web. Lots of people taking it personally, or as some kind of slight to all women (and especially WOMEN 👏 OF 👏
 COLOUR) that this got cancelled, when it's just a case of the show not pulling in enough punters. Saw a similar hoo-hah over that Latino sitcom getting the boot too. Lots of people calling Netflix trash, even though it was the company that took a chance on such a niche show in the first place.

On the flip side, is this just another crushing example of the infantilisation of modern humanity and proof that we're so incapable of facing adult responsibilities and behaviour that we're losing ourselves in silly cartoons and convincing ourselves that it's appropriate?

But then again, is that part of what makes it so clever? Aaaaaaahhhhh... No.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2019, 03:56:53 PM »
That said, I am annoyed by some of the "fuck Netflix" crying I've seen on the web. Lots of people taking it personally, or as some kind of slight to all women (and especially WOMEN 👏 OF 👏
 COLOUR) that this got cancelled, when it's just a case of the show not pulling in enough punters. Saw a similar hoo-hah over that Latino sitcom getting the boot too. Lots of people calling Netflix trash, even though it was the company that took a chance on such a niche show in the first place.

Ooh, fucking get Professor Serious here. Fuck off and read an encyclopedia, granddad.

You could say that tons of the best series required their channel's patience and indulgence in order to find their audience.  Dunno about T&B- not sure it quite reached what they were aiming for- but Amazon & Netflix are starting to form the habit of seemingly making shows in order to break them.  Dunno how much prep they put into their stuff, but as someone was saying on here the other day, write some decent characters FFS.  That's why Bojack's stuck around and this hasn't.  Brassy and shy isn't really enough.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2019, 07:38:01 PM »
You could say that tons of the best series required their channel's patience and indulgence in order to find their audience.  Dunno about T&B- not sure it quite reached what they were aiming for- but Amazon & Netflix are starting to form the habit of seemingly making shows in order to break them. 

It doesn't seem to be cancelling much more than other networks. Not counting the Marvel stuff or Happy (which was cancelled by Syfy), I make nine this year, with a number of them having a couple of seasons at least.

Netflix doesn't want to throw away money, even if a lot of its output is a bit shit. It also have famously good data analysis teams and tools. I'm pretty sure that if they saw the potential for growth they'd pursue it.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2019, 07:42:49 PM »
You could say that tons of the best series required their channel's patience and indulgence in order to find their audience.  Dunno about T&B- not sure it quite reached what they were aiming for- but Amazon & Netflix are starting to form the habit of seemingly making shows in order to break them.  Dunno how much prep they put into their stuff, but as someone was saying on here the other day, write some decent characters FFS.  That's why Bojack's stuck around and this hasn't.  Brassy and shy isn't really enough.

HBO is revered now but they have cancelled quickly a few good and even great series in the past (Carnivàle, John from Cincinnati, Rome)

Netflix produces a shitload of series, so I guess you're more aware of it.

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2019, 09:29:56 PM »
And Netflix gets more coverage online too, because their audiences are younger and more digitally focused.

(To be fair to HBO, the Rome cancellation was because the BBC pulled out if funding the series, I think in part because they fucked up with the "movie length" edit of the first two episodes that snipped out a lot of the intrigue in favour of tits.)

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2019, 09:50:22 PM »
Rome could have been a perfect show to run for more than 3 or 4 seasons. One of those big what ifs of fiction. I absolutely loved it at the time.

I absolutely adore Purefory hamming it up in it, especially this scene, alongside the talented Kevin McKidd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnVH8x9iAM

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Re: Tuca and Bertie
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2019, 09:54:30 PM »
Oh yeah, it was great. I really wanted to see how they were going to deal with Jesus (who would have come in around season five, I think).

And that fight with the giant fella at the end of season one (?) was class. THIRTEEN!

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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2019, 09:57:23 PM »
No word of a lie my family thought I was so into the show because of the lewd, gratuitous sex but I was actually just a history geek, especially antiquity. The first in a long line of perverse disappointments.

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