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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2019, 03:21:33 PM »
It sounds a bit like it could be worded to have my back, in a way – graphic sexual imagery recontextualised for comedic, non-pornographic purposes – but I'm probably best off not taking that chance if I don't need to. I've enjoyed typing "sexual" and "context" here a lot. It's a nice day out for the letter 'x'.

They probably just want to avoid it being used as a porn splog host. Your site would probably be okay, but it sounds like you've cancelled it anyway.

You can get a refund for the hosting/service (Blogger, Personal, Premium, Business, Ecommerce) you bought within 30 days, and a refund on your domain within 48 hours, but you said you didn't ask for a refund on the domain, so it will still be at Wordpress, under your account.

It's not pending delete so I don't think it will be dropped (especially if they haven't received a refund request), but if it is, don't re-register it at Dreamhost, Godaddy, 1&1 (avoid like the plague), Namecheap, or any other shit, overpriced webhost or registrar, use Namesilo or Porkbun (where currently you can get a .com for ~£2.50, with promo code YEAROFTHEBUN).

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2019, 01:04:39 AM »
...but if it is, don't re-register it at Dreamhost, Godaddy, 1&1 (avoid like the plague), Namecheap, or any other shit, overpriced webhost or registrar, use Namesilo or Porkbun (where currently you can get a .com for ~£2.50, with promo code YEAROFTHEBUN).

I really appreciate your faith in me that you're suggesting I bring a third site into my bad decisions maelstrom.

OK, it's unlikely to work but did you try the live chat thing?
From the link I sent:
I can't find any proper customer support except for that.
Like you said, if you try filling out a contact form it just just posts it to the community forum. What the fuck is that!? If you miss the disclaimer at the top and figure it was like every other contact form in existence, you could easily post login details without realising, which must happen all the time. Terrible system.
And the community forum is utter shite. I can't find your post anywhere and it takes 15 seconds for each page to load. Besides, I don't see how some Wordpress user pleb is going to retrieive your domain name for you.
All you can ask is what the status of your domain currently is - will it unregister in a few days or so or will it remain registered for a whole year to a dead site - if the latter, what can be done?

Thank you for all of this, hedgehog90, but... the WordPress forum has actually worked!



It was a cut above the previous 3309135 replies, that's for sure.

machotrouts.com is back on the domains page again. So now I'm able to do this:



Great! This has probably done something important! Things are looking up!

I am now completely lost again! What is this supposed to have done? What am I doing.

As I recall, my goal here is to use machotrouts.com instead of machotrouts.org, or have machotrouts.com redirect to machotrouts.org if that's not possible (I'm not sure what the limitations are, if any, of only having the domain "point at" DreamHost before I'm able to actually transfer it). But how do I... do that. How do I get that did.

Right, I've gone to DreamHost and set machotrouts.org to redirect to machotrouts.com.

Okay that just redirects to nothing because machotrouts.com isn't anything yet. It doesn't put the content of machotrouts.org on machotrouts.com. Stands to reason, but worth a try. Remove the URL from the redirect field.

Er, that's not an option. I can't leave the redirect field blank? Why not? It was blank before. This some kind of trap?

Ah, there's a "Deactivate redirect" option, I'll try that.

Oh fucking hell that deactivated the whole site! Fuck. What have I done now. Shit. Oh Christ

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2019, 01:16:09 AM »
The taunting HORROR of this.



YOUR SITE IS NOW NAUGHT BUT A MEMORY! AND ONE DAY IT WILL CEASE EVEN TO BE THAT

"If you'd like to re-add service, just come back to this page!" Okay, right. I'm there already. Now what?

Someone tell me what looks like it will do something good when I click it please.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2019, 02:10:53 AM »
Just do what you did on the .org with the .com, then go back to the add hosting page for the .org and choose redirect, to forward all the people who visit .org sites to your .com.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2019, 02:14:20 AM »
Ok, not sure what 'deactivate' means in that context. I take it the .org domain is no longer linked to the server.
That's fine, you want to make .com the primary domain anyway. Don't hit the delete button though if you want to keep it. I know that's kind of obvious but I'm being extra cautious, you seem to enjoy hitting big red scary buttons without knowing what they do.

As for getting .com linked to your server, I can't remember exactly how you do it.
When I'm on a PC tomorrow I can tell you.
In that screenshot with the nameservers, it offers the choice to use custom nameservers or Wordpress's 'fully featured' nameservers, but then it says that your site won't load if you don't use wordpress's amazing nameservers. Ignore that, I'm pretty sure it's bollocks.
You've set them to dreamhost's nameservers though - well done.
I think you need to enter the IP address of your dreamhost server somewhere in wordpress domain settings. I think it's referred to in DNS settings as your A record.
You'll probably need to set your domain name to 'machotrouts.com' somewhere in your Dreamhost settings too, all it currently knows about is .org, which you've just deactivated.
I'll have a proper look at it tomorrow and get back to you with better instructions.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2019, 02:24:03 AM »
Or he could just do what he did with the .org with the .com, then go back to the add hosting page for the .org and choose redirect, to forward all the people who visit .org sites to his .com.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2019, 02:34:55 AM »
Right, but currently .com is pointed at nothing. Once that's sorted then we'll setup a redirect from .org to .com.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2019, 10:33:56 AM »
Right, but currently .com is pointed at nothing. Once that's sorted then we'll setup a redirect from .org to .com.

Sorry for any offence BTW, especially since you're one of my favourite posters here, it just seemed to be getting unnecessarily complicated. I know when people haven't done something before everything's a mystery, but AIUI he successfully created (before removing) a site with the .org, and think just needs to do the same thing except write .com instead of .org. In business you can't promise everyone erect penises and then just piss about; people are relying on this site.

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
Simply going back to the page won’t get anything done. If you want to appease this thing you’ve got to do a bloodletting or at the very least get a vial full of your own tears.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2019, 11:12:17 AM »
Sorry for any offence BTW, especially since you're one of my favourite posters here, it just seemed to be getting unnecessarily complicated. I know when people haven't done something before everything's a mystery, but AIUI he successfully created (before removing) a site with the .org, and think just needs to do the same thing except write .com instead of .org. In business you can't promise everyone erect penises and then just piss about; people are relying on this site.

No offence caused of course, but it appears we're talking at cross-purposes.
He deactivated his original dreamhost .org domain (I didn't instruct him to do that, he just likes to press buttons). So now .org is pointing at nothing and .com is still pointing at the original wordpress hosted site which he has since ditched and getting a refund for.
Right?
In my instructions I'm telling him to point his .com domain at the dreamhost server and make it his primary domain, then make .org a redirect to .com. Which appears to be what you're saying too but in a less comprehensive way, so I don't understand where we're disagreeing.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2019, 11:45:49 AM »
.com is still pointing at the original wordpress hosted site which he has since ditched and getting a refund for.
Right?

No, it stopped pointing at Wordpress when he changed the nameservers to Dreamhost's last night. Literally all he has to do is add hosting for machotrouts.com in the Dreamhost control panel the exact same way he did for machotrouts.org.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2019, 12:41:38 PM »
Right, but unless I'm mistaken machotrouts.org was automatically setup for him when he ordered the dreamhost server. Saying 'just do what you did before with .org' doesn't apply unless you mean order another hosting package for the sake of simplicity.
The only way to set .com as the primary domain for his server is what I outlined.
And it's not that difficult frankly.

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2019, 12:44:17 PM »
Just hurry up and set up the store so I can get my machotrouts merch.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2019, 12:26:30 AM »
Right, but unless I'm mistaken machotrouts.org was automatically setup for him when he ordered the dreamhost server. Saying 'just do what you did before with .org' doesn't apply unless you mean order another hosting package for the sake of simplicity.

Obviously I don't mean buy another entire hosting package because that is completely ridiculous. It says in his very first post he got a Dreamhost account with no domain and tried to use his .com.

What I obviously mean is he just needs to set up the .com the same way he set up the .org, which he implied when he said he tried to redirect the "content" from .org to .com and then deactived the "whole site". He may have actually set up the .com correctly before starting the thread, but it failed because he hadn't changed the name servers to Dreamhost.

Even if he hadn't set up hosting on either domain and only made a redirect on .org, it's the exact same form, and fully explained in the link in the very first post I made here.

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The only way to set .com as the primary domain for his server is what I outlined.
And it's not that difficult frankly.

It's as difficult as the "less comprehensive" (ie, to the point) way I posted. It's not made any easier by complicating it talking about a "primary domain", which isn't a thing at Dreamhost, saying his site is pointing at nothing or Wordpress when it isn't, or saying he needs to mess about with A records at Wordpress, when he doesn't.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2019, 12:49:16 AM »
OK, I mistakenly assumed you had to specify the IP of your server with the domain registrar.
Apologies!
Do what Crisps said.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2019, 01:36:05 AM »
You do if you want to keep the same (Wordpress in this case) name servers, but he'd already changed them to Dreamhost, simplifying everything.

Do what Dreamhost said:

https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215416227-How-do-I-add-a-domain-
https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215525277-How-to-install-WordPress-using-the-One-Click-Installer

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2019, 06:45:09 AM »
I wonder if it's possible for me to fuck up making a site so badly that it incites a civil war on Cook'd and Bomb'd?

I don't really understand any of the hedgehog90/Crisps? back-and-forth, because honestly I was lost at "Just do what you did with the .org". I don't know which of the broad range of atrocities I've committed you specifically had in mind. But it looks like this was sorted in the last couple of posts, so...

Do what Crisps said.
Do what Dreamhost said:

https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215416227-How-do-I-add-a-domain-

Okay thanks!

Well that didn't work before, it just asked for money when I wanted to add a domain, but it works now, I guess because I deactivated machotrouts.org? Am I making a whole new site here, then? I'm not just switching the content of machotrouts.org over to machotrouts.com? Is machotrouts.org done for? That's fine – all I'd done with it was go through a thing that automatically transfers all my Tumblr posts over, which presumably there's nothing stopping me doing again. That's the one thing I've done so far that I've thought "wow, that was easier than I expected" about. Was sat here thinking, hmm, is it worth copying and pasting some of my Tumblr posts over. Nah mate, there's a tool for it. Use the tool. Corking stuff. Looking forward to using the tool again.

Right, I've done that and gone through a WordPress installation process, which I don't remember doing before. It ended in this:



webmaster@machotrouts.com? Who's THAT cunt?

Refreshed and it's fine. Okay! I've done the import thing again and now it has all my Tumblr posts. I'm where I was up to with machotrouts.org except it's machotrouts.com. Don't go there yet it's just all my Tumblr posts in a horrible font, I'll make it not look like dogshit later yeah.

So do I delete machotrouts.org now? Try to get a refund on it? I got that domain to fill the gap between fucking machotrouts.com and, with you guys' help, unfucking it, so .org serves no purpose now right? I won't delete a domain without running it by more sensible people first because I have developed as a human being since starting this thread.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2019, 10:01:24 AM »
Just leave .org for now, it's not doing anything and it'll expire in a year.
If you request a refund from Dreamhost be careful to specify the domain and not the site.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2019, 03:17:27 AM »
I'm where I was up to with machotrouts.org except it's machotrouts.com.

IOW you've 'done with the .com what you did with the .org'. ;)

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Well that didn't work before, it just asked for money when I wanted to add a domain, but it works now, I guess because I deactivated machotrouts.org?

Fuck me, it just occurred to me, wondering why you've had such weird trouble adding your .com, especially when you'd already done it with .org, and then asking there if it worked because you deleted .org, that the reason for all the problems/confusion is that you're on a plan that allows just one domain.

I just checked Dreamhost's pricing page, and that's indeed now their basic plan, whereas before, like Hostgator and the like, their major selling point was "unlimited" everything, including unlimited domains.

When you were trying to add the .com didn't it say at any time come on mate, you're only allowed one domain, remove the other one first or upgrade your account? ("Asking for money" is funny, but not that helpful a description of an error message.)

If it was clear from the start you were only allowed to have one domain on your account this thread could have been a much shorter shitshow.

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So do I delete machotrouts.org now? Try to get a refund on it? I got that domain to fill the gap between fucking machotrouts.com and, with you guys' help, unfucking it, so .org serves no purpose now right? I won't delete a domain without running it by more sensible people first because I have developed as a human being since starting this thread.

They probably won't give you a refund, maybe a domain/hosting credit at best, but there's no harm in asking. Since you're restricted to only one domain on your account there's nothing you can do with it at Dreamhost, even redirect it, but you can use it elsewhere if you want.

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2019, 08:54:47 AM »
Fuck me, it just occurred to me, wondering why you've had such weird trouble adding your .com, especially when you'd already done it with .org, and then asking there if it worked because you deleted .org, that the reason for all the problems/confusion is that you're on a plan that allows just one domain.

This was never the problem! The main plot thread here has been "machotrouts leaves his domain a smouldering crater on WordPress", then there was one post of "okay, sorted, time to add this to DreamHo- AHHH WHAT HAVE I DONE NOW". What I'd done turned out to be not really an issue and now we're here!

I've been meaning to ask about the plans, though, so, people on this forum who understand anything about anything...

https://www.dreamhost.com/hosting



What's... any of that?

I just got the cheapest one I think, on the left. Is that fine? Do I have anything to worry about there? (There's an option to choose "monthly" and "yearly", and I think I tentatively picked "monthly" in case I had to make an escape. I probably should change that.)

If you had asked me what "Unlimited Traffic" meant, I would have said that means any number of people can go to your site and DreamHost won't be arsed. Generous! But the more expensive one says "~100k Monthly Visitors" with the little info bubble thing saying "This is roughly how many monthly visitors to a typical WordPress site can be supported by this plan". So...? Will my site explode if 3 or 4 people look at it at the same time, or what.

Do I need to know what an SSD or an SSL or an STD are? Is it okay that I don't have a jetpack.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2019, 03:15:17 AM »
"Unlimited/unmetered bandwidth" is just promotional bullshit. Speed is a factor - you could have "unlimited/unmetered" on dialup internet - and CPU/RAM usage is not unlimited.

The biggest problem isn't your site being taken down by visitors, it's getting visitors in the first place. If your site is popular enough to be crashing under the weight, just upgrade or move to a different/better host that can handle 500 shiny but unnecessary Wordpress plugins.

I wouldn't advise switching to a yearly plan for the reason you didn't choose it in the first place, escape if you need to.

SSD drives are pretty standard at any decent host these days. Dreamhost's free SSL is just Let's Encrypt's free SSL, which you can use at any site or host (it's what CaB uses). It's so commonplace, standard and free these days (via LE and Cloudflare), hosts like Dreamhost should just install/apply it automatically by default, but they still want to try and make a buck selling paid versions to idiots. STD is a dated term for what is now increasingly referred to as STI, as the trend continues from Straight To DVD towards Straight To Internet. The #1 cause of people going straight to internet in the 1990s is thought to be erect penises. Jetpacks was yes.

Buzby, mate, how do you do it.


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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2019, 04:09:06 AM »
My problem now isn't that I think there's going to be a demographic of screaming machotrouts aficionados big enough to bomb my site, but 2 or 3 of my past Grindr polls got some media attention, and presumably a concentrated period of traffic to my Tumblr during that time. I'm not necessarily expecting that to happen again – I think this European election poll is going to be a 6-likes-on-Twitter-then-we're-done affair – but I'd like to be prepared for the possibility, and as there'd only be interest in the site for a very short period of time, I can't just wait to see if it crashes and then upgrade accordingly.

Is the basic plan I'm on fine for that, or would it collapse if Buzzfeed got a whiff? I still don't understand the "Unlimited Traffic/100k Monthly Visitors" thing.

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2019, 04:27:21 AM »
Just put it behind Cloudflare (not just for SSL). If your site is not particularly dynamic (i.e. it just shows content that doesn't change depending on who is looking at it) then it will basically cache your entire site on the fastest servers on the Internet, for free.

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2019, 12:24:52 PM »
Okay thanks, I've done that and now the site has disappeared. "Site Not Found", it reckons.

Is this a normal part of the process, or, fucked it again? Cloudflare says "It may take up to 24 hours for your registrar to process this change." I don't know what that means really but should I check back again in 24 hours and it'll be online again? It was fine for me to go back and change those nameservers on WordPress, right? It did ask me to.

edit: oh, what I think specifically doesn't work is when there's an "https" in the URL. Loads fine without it. Okay well I guess now's the time to ask what that is. "Not secure: https" with a big red line through it. What is that. Am I trying to steal my credit card information? How do I stop me from doing that.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2019, 01:04:18 AM »
We use https://... to access sites with SSL enabled, to ensure a secure connection.
This appears to be working on my end, your site loads on http and https, your SSL certificate is valid.

However, there is a problem as this is what I get when using https:



My error log reveals a problem:



Specifically these bits:

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Mixed Content: The page at '<URL>' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure script '<URL>'. This request has been blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
Mixed Content: The page at '<URL>' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure stylesheet '<URL>'. This request has been blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.

When my browser interprets the webpage, it's told to to load resources with urls starting with http. However, loading of http resources on an https site is considered a big no-no by my browser, so it blocks downloading them.

Exactly how you fix this I'm not sure.
It'll be a setting relating to SSL or HTTPS and the loading of resources, it might be in your general dreamhost settings or in your dreamhost wordpress settings.
There's also this: https://wordpress.org/plugins/http-https-remover/

Edit:
Before doing anything I'd wait for someone else's input. I have no direct experience with Dreamhost, Wordpress or Cloudflare, there may be a very simple solution to this that I'm not aware of.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2019, 01:31:58 AM by hedgehog90 »

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Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2019, 04:56:39 PM »
I found a thing on DreamHost on my Domains page that said "Not Secure" and I clicked on it and it gave me the option to "order" something called "LET'S ENCRYPT SSL CERTIFICATE" which says under it "Displays the 'lock' icon in browser address bars" which I get the impression is them dumbing it down to explain it to twats like me but I think that's what I want isn't it? Well I've chosen that so it had better be.

Does the site load for you without looking shit now? I mean except for how it looks shit. Does it look shit in the way it's currently supposed to look shit?

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2019, 05:25:08 PM »
Nah, still the same. Try installing this wordpress addon:

https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/ssl-insecure-content-fixer/

To install it go to your Wordpress settings -> Plugins and search for 'SSL insecure content fixer' and click 'install'

Further instructions if you're having trouble: https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215300817-Managing-WordPress-plugins

You can check the 'secure' status of your site here:
https://www.whynopadlock.com/results/cbb48322-38aa-453a-9d23-d8a54c6555d7

Click 'Test Again' at the bottom to update the results.
The main problem is the mixed content, once that's gone I'd suggest forcing SSL, so http redirects to https.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2019, 05:52:30 PM »
Also, it appears Cloudflare has already issued you an SSL certificate so the one you configured with wordpress probably isn't necessary.
When I check your site's certificate I see this:



As you can see it's Cloudflare's certificate. This was already in place before you installed the Let'sEncrypt SSL certificate on Dreamhost.

If I understand correctly, Cloudflare is now doing all the heavy work in serving your site to visitors. Cloudflare is like an outer layer, my browser communicates with this outer layer when I go to machotrouts.com. Your dreamhost server is like an inner atrium, the only traffic the dreamhost server is receiving is from Cloudflare probing it for updates.

Or to use a proper anaology, Cloudflare is like the shop that serves customers, Dreamhost is like the stock room, forbidden to customers, only accessable by employees (Cloudflare).

So if you need to configure your SSL settings or redirects, you'll want to do it with Cloudflare.

EDIT: pretty much edited the entire post for more clarity, re-read it.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2019, 06:02:46 PM by hedgehog90 »

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2019, 06:17:18 PM »
Before you try the wordpress plugin, try this:

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170416-End-to-end-HTTPS-with-Cloudflare-Part-3-SSL-options

Turns out you were probably right to order an SSL certificate on Dreamhost.
Currently, your Cloudflare is using 'Flexible SSL' to communicate with Dreamhost.

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The Flexible SSL option allows a secure HTTPS connection between your visitor and Cloudflare, but forces Cloudflare to connect to your origin web server over unencrypted HTTP. An SSL certificate is not required on your origin web server and your visitors will still see the site as being HTTPS enabled.

Flexible is not recommended if your website contains sensitive information. Use Flexible only as a last resort if you are unable to setup SSL at your origin web server.

I'd recommend going to your Cloudflare settings -> Crypto -> SSL and select 'Full'

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Full ensures a secure connection between both the visitor and your Cloudflare domain and between Cloudflare and your web server.

The Full SSL option does not validate SSL certificate authenticity at the origin. A self-signed certificate is allowed at the origin web server.

Re: Being pitifully tech-illiterate despite living on the internet
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2019, 06:24:32 PM »
Sack it all off and use squarespace maybe?