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Star Trek - Picard show

Started by mothman, May 15, 2019, 09:42:58 PM

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greenman

I get very little Trek vibe from it at all unless you mean the recent Trek or the more clichéd blockbuster aspects of the TNG films.

The most common expectation I'v seen is for something akin to "Ambassador Picard" and this doesn't look like its attempting that in the slightest.

bgmnts

Quote from: greenman on July 21, 2019, 12:03:12 PM
Stewart himself will likely be good regardless which makes it more disappointing it will be in something that looks very uninteresting to me.

Basically. It's like commissioning Leonardo da Vinci to roll paint on your walls.

MojoJojo

Quote from: bgmnts on July 21, 2019, 10:07:44 AM
Data is in the dog.

I wonder which one of his multiple techniques he used for that.

beanheadmcginty

Still, looks like there'll be opportunity for a nostalgic Seven of Nine wank and for that reason I'm in.

mothman

Quote from: Shaky on July 21, 2019, 12:19:20 PM
I think his presence at the comic con thing (where he was noticeably placed away from Stewart and other new cast members) was a bit of misdirection.

https://twitter.com/primevideouk/status/1152874990347390977

There are a series of similar perfunctory spinny-round videos for other cast members; Jeri Ryan gets to be in the tier two spinny-round (with Jonathan Del Arco, still best known for playing Hugh Borg in three TNG eps, and the actor playing the long-haired elf-lord Romulan) despite her being one of the most well-known non-TNG TNG-era stars/characters. So I don't think they're deliberately keeping Spiner & Stewart apart.

kidsick5000

Troi and Riker will appear. Marina Sirtis just tweeted

Suki Bapswent

Quote from: Kelvin on July 21, 2019, 01:56:43 AM
Focussing on the action misses the more concerning fact that nearly every single line of dialogue in that trailer is a genre cliche.

But... it's a trailer. That's what dialogue like that exists for.

Quoteall intoned in that same hushed, quivering voice.

Hate on the voice and you can meet me in outside.

QuoteFuck off and listen to how real people talk, instead of writing facsimiles of facsimiles of cliches.

But... it's Star Trek.

SavageHedgehog

I think it looks kind of interesting. I like that they appear to be trying to build drama from the conclusion of the most maligned chapter in the (TNG) series, rather than doing a fashionable retcon/reboot. Kind of reminds me of the "gritty" Creed films building on the bones of the most cartoonish Rocky film.

Deyv

Quote from: Kelvin on July 21, 2019, 01:56:43 AMFuck off and listen to how real people talk, instead of writing facsimiles of facsimiles of cliches.

I appreciate your advice and concern but this is not the time for rash actions.

Cold Meat Platter

Quote from: Deyv on July 22, 2019, 05:11:42 PM
I appreciate your advice and concern but this is not the time for rash actions.

You just don't get it, do you?

colacentral

Kurtzman talking at the SDCC panel doesn't give me much hope. He said that TNG was made "in a more innocent, naive time", that Star Trek "has always reflected the time it was made" and that these are "darker" times.

TNG was made during the Reagan / Thatcher years and presented a utopian socialist view of the future. Picard could do what TNG did and counter the current political mood with an optimistic vision.

More importantly, it doesn't look much like TNG trek - it looks far more Abrams / Discovery.

bgmnts

The idea its a darker time now than the 80s and 60s is white and class privilege at its best.

Chairman Yang

Thing is, a story about Picard diplomatting around a more cynical postwar Federation could be dead good. Set him up against some charismatic populist who's ranting about lost vigor and never-againing people into a militant League of Arseholes. Writes itself.

I have a suspicion the actual show will be about heroic destiny and the importance of family.

Blumf

Will Joss Whedon be getting a royalty cheque for the use of the kick-ass yet vulnerable girl trope?

Cloud

This looks great, I'm super hyped! 
(Wait this is cab... rawr it'll be shit and other such pessimism and misery)

Wasn't expecting Seven or Data.  Jeri Ryan seems to be one of those people who just doesn't bother to age, and with all respect to Brent Spiner they've done an impressive job with de-aging for Data.

It's sad reflection on Youtube though that the high up results other than the trailer are "anti SJW" pillocks like Nerdrotic and Dave Cullen.  Yes yes it has women and POC in it, welcome to the 1960s, do keep up.

Shaky

Quote from: Cloud on July 23, 2019, 01:41:06 AM
This looks great, I'm super hyped! 
(Wait this is cab... rawr it'll be shit and other such pessimism and misery)

Wasn't expecting Seven or Data.  Jeri Ryan seems to be one of those people who just doesn't bother to age, and with all respect to Brent Spiner they've done an impressive job with de-aging for Data.

It's sad reflection on Youtube though that the high up results other than the trailer are "anti SJW" pillocks like Nerdrotic and Dave Cullen.  Yes yes it has women and POC in it, welcome to the 1960s, do keep up.

Yes, and it's become the depressing norm to read silly comments like, "Picard has been sidelined by a girl and non-white people in his own show!"

VelourSpirit

Quote from: colacentral on July 22, 2019, 10:05:14 PM
Kurtzman talking at the SDCC panel doesn't give me much hope. He said that TNG was made "in a more innocent, naive time", that Star Trek "has always reflected the time it was made" and that these are "darker" times.

I hate that stupid fucking rhetoric. Used that shite in the marketing of the last Doctor Who series too. Ooh we need a pillar of hope in these dark times!!!! Fuck off. Doctor Who gurning at an alien wouldn't have helped at any tragic point in history and it doesn't make a difference now.

Alex Kurtzman is showrunning a series based on The Man Who Fell to Earth. https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/man-who-fell-to-earth-series-cbs-all-access-alex-kurtzman-jenny-lumet-1203286566/

Bad Ambassador

Quote from: TwinPeaks on August 02, 2019, 12:32:36 AM
I hate that stupid fucking rhetoric. Used that shite in the marketing of the last Doctor Who series too. Ooh we need a pillar of hope in these dark times!!!!

Yes, those innocent care-free days of Iran Contra, Greneda and the President being a senile puppet.

Blumf

Quote from: Bad Ambassador on August 02, 2019, 09:13:28 AM
Yes, those innocent care-free days of Iran Contra, Greneda and the President being a senile puppet.

I miss the comforting threat of nuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.

Malcy



Alberon

Trailers are hard to judge, but I was rather hoping Riker and Troi would be on a ship (The Titan?), not seemingly retired as well. There does seem to be a couple of shots of a TOS-era Romulan bird of prey.

Camp Tramp

Data looks awful. Hopefully he can be explained away as a dream figment?

Glebe

It's nice to see the old lot back together!

Malcy

Quote from: Alberon on October 06, 2019, 09:22:56 AM
Trailers are hard to judge, but I was rather hoping Riker and Troi would be on a ship (The Titan?), not seemingly retired as well. There does seem to be a couple of shots of a TOS-era Romulan bird of prey.

Yeah I was looking forward to some Titan action but I suppose it makes sense. 20 years as Captain would be more than enough. Tuvok and Ezri Dax were crew members in the books.

The Bird Of Prey was a nice surprise. As was the somewhat faithful looking warp effect. Not that shitty JJ Abrams one DSC uses.

Quote from: Camp Tramp on October 06, 2019, 09:26:55 AM
Data looks awful. Hopefully he can be explained away as a dream figment?

Fairly sure that's what his role is. It's his hair that stands out as looking really wrong to me.

colacentral

The eyes are too yellow. He looks like a demon.

Not a fan of there being a samurai in this. Or 7 of 9 dual wielding machine guns, or a million other things. I could give it the benefit of the doubt on the previous trailer but this one makes it look appalling.

olliebean

Discovery on Netflix, Picard on Amazon. Why don't they pick a damn streaming service and stick to it?

Dr Rock

Did you notice Bongwater's Ann Magnuson is in this (in the trailer too)? She's also now in Titans.

Shaky

Dodgy Data aside, this looks pretty damn fun.

Dex Sawash

Quote from: olliebean on October 06, 2019, 10:35:22 AM
Discovery on Netflix, Picard on Amazon. Why don't they pick a damn streaming service and stick to it?

Both on CBS All Access in US, the bastards. Might buy a month and binge both series in a few years.
I hope Wesley's career is fucked and he is still a whiney twat acting ensign, now bald.