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Beatles Podcasts

Started by Satchmo Distel, May 17, 2019, 12:31:18 AM

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SteveDave

Yes. Tomorrow. When we both abandon sorrow.


poodlefaker

Thank goodness this underappreciated band is finally getting some of the attention it deserves.


SteveDave

Fab 4 Free 4 All (3 lovely Americans chatting)

http://www.fab4free4all.com/

Fabcast (2 awful Americans shouting with hyperbole diarrhoea...there's a good May Pang interview in their 1974 show)

https://soundcloud.com/fabcast-870039074

When They Was Fab (2 alright Americans with guests)

https://whentheywasfab.podbean.com/

Nothing Is Real (2 Norn Iron men chatting very quietly)

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/adrian-carty/nothing-is-real-a-beatles-podcast

I Am The EggPod (Lovely Chris Shaw with guests...at some point I'm going to be on this talking about "Pussy Cats" by Nilsson)

https://iamtheeggpod.com/

SteveDave

FabCast is worth a listen as every episode they rant like they've taken all the cocaine in New York and get very angry and then apologise for their beliefs.

They also don't like the Rutles. So they're idiots.

They make one good point though that all Beatles podcasts have awful faux-Beatles theme music. Apart from EggPod which is just Beatles/Soul mash-ups.

alan nagsworth

You cunts fuckin love the Beatles eh

PaulTMA

Need more podcasts for genuinely miserable prog baldies

a duncandisorderly

not podcasts, but easier to digest than the raw twickenham audio (which is out there too) is this massive archive/blog thing:

https://amoralto.tumblr.com/archive

start here for a good idea of what lurks within:

https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/68911122415/january-10th-1969-twickenham-film-studios

SteveDave

Quote from: a duncandisorderly on May 17, 2019, 10:41:16 AM
not podcasts, but easier to digest than the raw twickenham audio (which is out there too) is this massive archive/blog thing:

https://amoralto.tumblr.com/archive

start here for a good idea of what lurks within:

https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/89397929772/january-10th-1969-twickenham-film-studios

I'm reading the "Get Back"/"Drugs, Divorce And A Slipping Image" book at the moment and it's very sad.

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: SteveDave on May 17, 2019, 10:42:26 AM
I'm reading the "Get Back"/"Drugs, Divorce And A Slipping Image" book at the moment and it's very sad.

which one's that? the peter doggett? the joe goodden? I've read a ton of beatles books, never get tired of the story.

SteveDave

Quote from: a duncandisorderly on May 17, 2019, 10:54:32 AM
which one's that? the peter doggett? the joe goodden? I've read a ton of beatles books, never get tired of the story.

My copy's called "Get Back- The Beatles' Let It Be Disaster" by Doug Sulpy and Ray Schweighardt. They go through all the Get Back session tapes and detail what gets played/said.

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: SteveDave on May 17, 2019, 10:59:02 AM
My copy's called "Get Back- The Beatles' Let It Be Disaster" by Doug Sulpy and Ray Schweighardt. They go through all the Get Back session tapes and detail what gets played/said.

cheers. I think I've got that somewhere. the 'you never give me your money' one is decent.

Pauline Walnuts


a duncandisorderly

the doug sulpy 'slipping image' book (either version) seems to be unobtainium. he had an e-book version of it on his own site but that's long gone. people seem to want £100s for it.

bah.

SteveDave

Quote from: a duncandisorderly on May 20, 2019, 01:10:57 PM
the doug sulpy 'slipping image' book (either version) seems to be unobtainium. he had an e-book version of it on his own site but that's long gone. people seem to want £100s for it.

bah.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Get-Back-The-Beatles-Let-It-Be-Disaster-Ray-Schweighardt-Doug-Sulphy-Very-Go/312526266664?epid=89026420&hash=item48c4046128:g:yHwAAOSwidlZZqPk

That's not too bad?


Lewisohn has concluded that the Get Back sessions were not as rancorous as previously assumed, but I don't think he's squared that with George walking out on January 10th. He also thinks Lennon was never seriously addicted to heroin; he just dabbled; but again 'Cold Turkey' would suggest otherwise.

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: Satchmo Distel on May 20, 2019, 01:43:13 PM
Lewisohn has concluded that the Get Back sessions were not as rancorous as previously assumed, but I don't think he's squared that with George walking out on January 10th. He also thinks Lennon was never seriously addicted to heroin; he just dabbled; but again 'Cold Turkey' would suggest otherwise.

yeah, lewissohn's accounts have always struck me as a bit fannish. I prefer the mcdonald version of things.

interesting that george's parting shots were with lennon, not macca, somewhat counterintuitively, & were settled in plenty of time for him to collaborate with lennon on 'how do you sleep?' &c.
it seems to have been a case of "oh for fucks's sake, not you as well! I'm off..." & then the next day lennon's on about getting clapton in instead, reminding me rather of david st hubbins being so dismissive of nigel's departure & then, when this position is queried, blaming the heavy sedation. I can't find explicit mention of macca's reaction to GH being gone, but much of the navel-gazing while they decide what to do is centred on his de facto 'musical director' role.

here's a bit... the business of trying to keep everyone involved in the process seems to have eclipsed the obvious, that 'two of us' is a duet, & that george is explicitly excluded from it by its very nature. in this conversation, they're at the early stages of trying to figure out the arrangement; harrison ends up playing bass (badly) on the band's fender VI, having figured out a bass part on his telecaster.
but this is before that-

https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/161539726397/january-6th-1969-twickenham-film-studios


I think Paul is in an impossible situation. George has some personal issues going on at home (an affair) and this makes him even more antagonistic that he had been during the White Album. John is passive, probably on smack. Paul wants their support rather then just being seen as a dictator but he's not getting it here. I'm not sure what Paul could have done or said differently.

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: Satchmo Distel on May 21, 2019, 04:32:52 AM
I think Paul is in an impossible situation. George has some personal issues going on at home (an affair) and this makes him even more antagonistic that he had been during the White Album. John is passive, probably on smack. Paul wants their support rather then just being seen as a dictator but he's not getting it here. I'm not sure what Paul could have done or said differently.

I agree, & furthermore I think the others could well have shown a bit of appreciation for Paul's efforts to turn their riffs into something a bit more polished. John comes closest when he starts on about not being able to hear flutes & stuff, & not being prepared to do the 'work' in imagining (no pun intended) these sorts of embellishments to his songs.

DrGreggles

I think McCartney's enthusiasm could easily be quite irritating if you weren't in the mood for it.
He comes across like an overbearing holiday rep at times.

a duncandisorderly

Quote from: DrGreggles on May 21, 2019, 08:10:17 AM
I think McCartney's enthusiasm could easily be quite irritating if you weren't in the mood for it.
He comes across like an overbearing holiday rep at times.

I think that was his real personality, though. what's puzzling is how little of the hamburg was left in him by 1965, say. I wonder if living with the ashers for a couple of years sort of gentrified him. in any case, he seems to have been the one with the work ethic.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: SteveDave on May 17, 2019, 09:07:24 AM
FabCast is worth a listen as every episode they rant like they've taken all the cocaine in New York and get very angry and then apologise for their beliefs.

They also don't like the Rutles. So they're idiots.

These amped-up American dudes - and man, are these guys ever dudes - are, without a hint of exaggeration, the worst human beings on Earth. Their enthusiasm for the Beatles actually comes across as aggressive, like they're trying to prove to a cloth-eared, skeptical universe that they were The Best Band Ever.

Dudes, I already love The Beatles, that's why I'm giving your shitty podcast ago. I thought you might provide some, y'know, actual insight instead of ranting on and on and on about "Man, that fucking Ringo, man, that guy was the fucking best, and if you don't agree, get outta town, douchebag!" They make Marc Maron sound like Alan Bennett.

As SteveDave says, you should listen to any random episode for at least ten minutes just to experience how unbearable they are.

Oh, and of course they don't like The Rutles, as liking The Rutles requires having a sense of humour and perspective.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Something About The Beatles is definitely one of the best, if not the best, Beatles pods, but I agree that it's never been the same since Richard left.

One thing I'll say about that guy, though, is that his snide Macca-bashing really does become quite tiresome after a while. He never misses an opportunity to put the boot in, regardless of whether it's warranted or not. I believe him when he says he's not a contrarian, and that he actually does sincerely think that most of Macca's solo output is shite, but he's almost completely unwilling to accept that the man wrote some great songs post-Fabs.

I wouldn't really mind that so much if he wasn't such a vociferous Lennon cheerleader. John can pretty much do no wrong in his eyes. He even rates the dreary Walls and Bridges as a great album, which is madness. 

I don't want to give the impression that I think the guy's a prick, he's demonstrably not, but he annoys me sometimes. But hey! That's what made it such a good podcast, right? Two interesting, clued-up Fabs fans sharing their insight and occasionally disagreeing.   


Johnboy

Another thumbs aloft for I Am The Eggpod - lots of different perspectives

SteveDave

I can also recommend Nothing Is Real- two Irish lads talking about the Beatles. I've already recommended this BUT, tomorrow's episode has got Mark Lewisohn on it.