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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2019, 06:18:41 AM »
Well Penguin has been rumoured for some time... of course if he appears alongside Catwoman everyone's gonna think Batman Returns, but it's obviously going to be quite a different movie to that so I wouldn't worry about comparisons.

Never been a big fan of either of those baddies. They're alright but a bit dull. I wouldn't mind another take on Scarecrow and I'd still like to see The Riddler done properly.

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2019, 06:20:32 AM »
I'd expect The Flash movie to be more Spider-Manish  than The Batman.
I guess Affleck was too much of a dad so now they're looking for someone younger.


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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2019, 09:04:11 AM »
You can be a dad at any age now.

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2019, 09:04:34 AM »
Meanwhile, The CW are bringing out a Batwoman show starring a gay actor, and white male comic book fans everywhere are obviously delighted.

https://youtu.be/vrIiPcv4_iY

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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2019, 09:13:44 AM »
Never been a big fan of either of those baddies. They're alright but a bit dull. I wouldn't mind another take on Scarecrow and I'd still like to see The Riddler done properly.

I think Nolan could have got away with a fourth Batman film mopping up all the tertiary characters and knocked any need for additional Batman films permanently on the head (apart from the novelty ones bundling Superman, Batman, Kitchensinkboy and so on together, which were bound to happen regardless of how closed-off Nolan left the franchise).

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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2019, 10:01:42 AM »
Meanwhile, The CW are bringing out a Batwoman show starring a gay actor, and white male comic book fans everywhere are obviously delighted.

https://youtu.be/vrIiPcv4_iY

I don't know about any of that but the virtue signaling is off the chart in that trailer, so I can understand why some fans might take exception to something they care about being adopted to so brazenly peddle a political agenda.  On that note, I can't stand it when writers write their characters as women.  What I mean by that, is when one of the character's key "personality traits" is defined as 'woman'.  I've always viewed Ellen Ripley in the Alien films as the gold standard of how to write for a female lead; that is to say that Ripley wasn't written as a female character.  None of the characters in the script for Alien were assigned genders and so all genders were considered when casting the film.  In doing so, audiences were treated to a female protagonist who's written as a human being, as opposed to 'woman'.  The result?  One of the, if not the greatest screen heroine in all of cinematic history; strong willed and prepared to take action when the going gets tough but also someone with a very humanistic philosophy and not once does the film draw attention to Ripley's gender.  She stands toe to toe with the men around her but is never dismissive to the opposite sex based upon their gender.  She commands respect by virtue of her strength of will alone.  Both women and men can find inspiration in Ellen Ripley.  Both women and men can look up to that character and aspire to be more like her in life.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, we have Batwoman.  Women in real life don't go around constantly thinking 'I'm a woman' and informing every man that they happen upon of this fact, as though it were a revelation.  Not that you'd believe it, going by the trailer for Batwoman.  The audience is constantly reminded of the character's gender, to the point of absurdity (they even used a song with the lyrics 'I am a woman', for Christ's sake).  Not only is this bad writing but it's actually harmful in the long run because it's defining people by their gender and in doing so, creating a division between the sexes.  You cannot achieve unification through division.

Equally, pouring scorn on one gender with lines such as "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work" is not conducive to bringing about the winds of change.  If a misogynistic man were to watch this trailer and hear that line, it's not going to make him reflect on his worldview, it's only going to inspire him to dig his heels even further into the sand out of defiance.   As is so often the case with woke entertainment, it exists as a form of masturbatory material for those who are already woke.  Those same people tell themselves that this show is changing the world.  Newsflash, people; the bigots aren't watching the show.

To come back to that line; "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work".  Imagine if you will, that the roles were reversed and a male protagonist stated "I'm not about to let a woman take credit for a man's work".  Doesn't sound great coming from the mouth of a hero, does it?  So why is that kind of divisive writing given a free pass when it's a woman saying the line?  Historically, woman have been oppressed.  I get that.  However, two wrongs don't make a right.  How is oppressing people because of their gender, whether they be male or female, a good thing?  Black people have also been historically oppressed and yet would we condone that a black person go out into the world and vocalise his disgust at every white person that he or she encounters?  No, because it would be advocating racism.  Racism is racism, no matter the target.  Just as sexism is sexism, no matter the target.  Batwoman isn't progressive, it's one step forward, two steps back.  Alien is what a progressive portrayal of a woman looks like and is done in a way that may very well have actuality altered a few sexist men's worldviews along the way because it didn't preach to them in a lecturous manner.  That was all the way back in 1979.  I lament how far we've fallen since then, in terms of credible and relatable heroines.

I desire to watch characters who are human beings.  I desire to watch characters who I can relate to, regardless of gender.  I don't want to watch 'man' and 'woman'.

Having said all of that, the sexuality of the actress is a hateful thing for anyone to rally against.  No arguments from me on that front.
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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2019, 12:26:59 PM »
The lad has a rectangular jaw is that not Batman enough.

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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2019, 02:15:04 PM »
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You cannot achieve unification through division.

This is why the best symbol for gender equality is a pair of testicles.  They are separate but also together.  Equal, even if one of them doesn’t work as well as the other.

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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2019, 02:24:29 PM »
Plus Robert Pattinson‘s chin looks like a pair of testicles, so it all fits.

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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2019, 02:33:41 PM »
Mind the bit in Alien where Ripley walks around in her tiny pants though.

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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2019, 02:39:29 PM »
Mind the bit in Alien where Ripley walks around in her tiny pants though.

Where were the testicles in that?

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« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2019, 02:52:39 PM »
I've only actually seen Patterson in a couple of the Harry Potter movies. He has the brooding look and a Batman jaw... it's the acting chops that matter, of course. Not sure I see Nicholas Hoult as Bats. Meanwhile...

The Batman’s First Two Villains Have Reportedly Been Revealed.

Well Penguin has been rumoured for some time... of course if he appears alongside Catwoman everyone's gonna think Batman Returns, but it's obviously going to be quite a different movie to that so I wouldn't worry about comparisons.

Such a po-face and earnest article for what is essentially sad-man porn.

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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2019, 03:37:19 PM »
Mind the bit in Alien where Ripley walks around in her tiny pants though.

That scene doesn't exist as a means to provide cheap salacious titillation though.  It's used to make Ripley that little bit more vulnerable when she's trapped alone in close proximity to the alien.  The alien looks at her pink, soft body and slowly extends its phallic inner mouth, as a metaphor for rape, which is one of the major themes of the film; the fear of rape.  It's intelligent cinema.

Ridley Scott originally wanted to have the crew of the Nostromo awakening from cryosleep naked, both men and women alike, but the studio nixed that idea, so a compromise was reached whereby the crew would wear strips of clothing to cover their private areas.  On that basis, it wouldn't surprise me if Scott's original intent was to also have Sigourney Weaver be naked at the end of the film, to better drive home the vulnerable nature of Ripley within that moment, as well as creating a symmetry with the aforementioned naked cryosleep awakening.
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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2019, 03:49:34 PM »
STOP EXTENDING YOUR PHALLIC INNER MOUTH AT ME GRANDPA.  I DON’T LIKE IT.

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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2019, 09:08:51 PM »
Warner Bros are chasing after that sweet Spider-Man: Homecoming moolah.  Oh, Warner Bros, will you never learn when it comes to your DC movies; we've already established that attempting to emulate the trendsetters at Marvel doesn't work out for you.  Be the originator of the document, not the xerox machine.

Crafty of them to make the Batman Beyond cartoon about 20 years before Homecoming, which as we all know is the first film about Spider-Man in school.

I don't know about any of that but the virtue signaling is off the chart in that trailer, so I can understand why some fans might take exception to something they care about being adopted to so brazenly peddle a political agenda.

Crafty of DC Comics to create the Kate Kane character 13 years ago, then replace all of the many Batwoman shows and films with her this year, especially since there has never been another CW superhero show - and certainly not one with a straight protagonist.

(Though, yes, the writing is cringey as fuck.)

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« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2019, 12:24:27 AM »
That scene doesn't exist as a means to provide cheap salacious titillation though.  It's used to make Ripley that little bit more vulnerable when she's trapped alone in close proximity to the alien.  The alien looks at her pink, soft body and slowly extends its phallic inner mouth, as a metaphor for rape, which is one of the major themes of the film; the fear of rape.  It's intelligent cinema.

Ridley Scott originally wanted to have the crew of the Nostromo awakening from cryosleep naked, both men and women alike, but the studio nixed that idea, so a compromise was reached whereby the crew would wear strips of clothing to cover their private areas.  On that basis, it wouldn't surprise me if Scott's original intent was to also have Sigourney Weaver be naked at the end of the film, to better drive home the vulnerable nature of Ripley within that moment, as well as creating a symmetry with the aforementioned naked cryosleep awakening.

She should have been in metaphorical pants then. Ridley was having a fiddly.

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« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2019, 12:37:17 AM »
I think it's great casting; I can see him capturing every facet of Bruce Wayne and Batman successfully, being sort of a pretty boy but also looking a bit deranged, whereas Bale was a decent if boring Bruce Wayne and a shite Batman.

That said, the chances of another batman film not being a total Ballache waste of time seems unlikely. The only version of a batman I want to see is one directed by lunatic rightwing trash bag director of brawl in cell block 99 and bone tomahawk. Joker could be some sort of caracature of a leftwing you tuber,  and bats could disembowel him in an abandoned garage

Well, Matt Reeves directed the recent Planet of the Apes sequels, which were great, so I have high hopes for it. I don't think there's been a live action Batman film yet which has done the source material justice (I'm not even much of a fan of Nolan's films; I think Batman Begins is probably the best of them), so hopefully this will be the one.

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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2019, 12:10:39 PM »
Found out Pattinson is older than Christian Bale was when he made Batman Begins, which surprised me. Great actor, couldn't quite save Lost City of Z from Charlie Hunnam's rubbish acting but came admirably close, and he smashed it in Good Time.

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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »
The alien looks at her pink, soft body and slowly extends its phallic inner mouth, as a metaphor for rape

I bet he did, the dirty old bollocks.

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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2019, 01:56:58 PM »
Found out Pattinson is older than Christian Bale was when he made Batman Begins, which surprised me.

Surprised me too. That means he was fucking 25 in American Psycho!

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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2019, 12:59:51 AM »
Confirmed.

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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2019, 04:52:50 PM »
Confirmed.

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With multiple villains appearing in The Batman -- I was told months ago that Penguin, Riddler, and possibly Catwoman are expected to appear, as well as other rogues and mobsters -- and additional characters including Commissioner Gordon, Alfred, and potentially Robin, we should be hearing additional casting information soon.

Robin? Unsubstantiated rumours, of course.

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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2019, 06:55:21 PM »
congrats "man with annoying face"

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« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2019, 10:23:03 PM »
I would point out Eddie that one of the most obvious recent examples a lead character in a blockbuster who happened to be female rather than being written as such as actually Jyn in Rogue One.

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« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2019, 10:58:46 PM »
I would point out Eddie that one of the most obvious recent examples a lead character in a blockbuster who happened to be female rather than being written as such as actually Jyn in Rogue One.

True.  Just a pity that they forgot to give her a personality whilst they were at it.

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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2019, 01:01:34 AM »
What do people want from a Batman actor really?  I get the dissent whenever Bond's recast, but we're talking about a gruff psychopath in a suit.

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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2019, 09:06:12 AM »
MC Ride cameo please.

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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2019, 09:15:57 AM »
What do people want from a Batman actor really?  I get the dissent whenever Bond's recast, but we're talking about a gruff psychopath in a suit.
A lot of people wanted to be Batman until Iron Man became cool. But now he is dead.
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Re: Man With Annoying Face Might Be New Batman
« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2019, 10:31:35 AM »
Nicholas Lyndhurst overlooked yet again.