Taylor Swift record with Panic at the Disco cunt

[madhair60]

fucking shit, get it off now. The worst.

HEY KIDS! SPELLING IS FUN!

makes me want to do a misogyny.

[madhair60]

She's fucking crap in general, Shake it Off is almost a good pop record but it's inexplicably overlaid with her smugly grunting at her own song.

[madhair60]

You could have been getting down to this. Sick. Beat

Worst part ever of any song other than HEY KIDS SPELLING IS FUN

[PlanktonSideburns]

She's only as good as her Co writers it seems. Bafflingly shite tune with a well shit video, tried listening to some of these panic at the disco fellas and surprise surprise, their music is like licking the bins outside a dogshit factory.

She is the bill Hailey and the comets of modern pop music, and will be remembered as such

When fka twigs, lizzo, janelle monet, Beyonce, Arianna grande and a load of others are putting out really great pop music, this song feels like a suicide note written in second hand sick. Kanye was right to talk over her Oscar or whatever it was

[purlieu]

Yeah, I'm pretty astonished at how bad this song is. 1989 is still a solid pop album and I like a fair bit of Red but crikey she's lost it since then.

I find the way pop is marketed as an 'event' these days increasingly tedious, too. Every album campaign has to have a really distinct feel to it. Reputation was her 'dark' album, with the black snake hype videos and the gothic fonts on the art and stuff; the video for this new song begins with the same snake bursting into rainbow coloured butterflies. Basically saying "I've done a dark album, this album is going to be super bright and poppy!" I mean, if you're going to actually do a serious themed or concept album, then these things make sense, but it always feels very contrived in pop music.

[buzby]

Unsurprisingly, the massive narcissist Taylor Swift writes another song all about 'ME' and how great she is. Dogshit.

[BlodwynPig]

Yeah, I'm pretty astonished at how bad this song is. 1989 is still a solid pop album and I like a fair bit of Red but crikey she's lost it since then.

I find the way pop is marketed as an 'event' these days increasingly tedious, too. Every album campaign has to have a really distinct feel to it. Reputation was her 'dark' album, with the black snake hype videos and the gothic fonts on the art and stuff; the video for this new song begins with the same snake bursting into rainbow coloured butterflies. Basically saying "I've done a dark album, this album is going to be super bright and poppy!" I mean, if you're going to actually do a serious themed or concept album, then these things make sense, but it always feels very contrived in pop music.

Id love to hear her take on Tales from Topographic Oceans

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It doesn't feel like a song, y'know a melody conceived in a moment of inspiration, just a half-arsed vague tune she came up with in the shower and no one at the record company had the courage to tell her was awful. As a lead single it doesn't exactly look promising for the rest of her album.

Not that I'm in any way knowledgeable about her career, beyond the megahits that you can't avoid (that Shake It Off one), but her music does seem to be boringly self-obsessed. Like individual songs are simply jingles for the wider marketing campaign that is selling her and her lifestyle. She seems the very embodiment of the shallow, uninteresting American mallrat and yet she's singing about herself as if she's some unique, incredibly different and unprecedented visionary. You're a bit dramatic & irrational? Wow, never come across a woman like that.

And she's nearly thirty - I assumed from her music she was still like early twenties or summat.

But like I say, I'm no fan. Maybe she has great moments of pop in her back catalogue.

[Jerzy Bondov]

Not into this new one and I skipped Reputation but Fearless, Speak Now, Red and 1984 have a very high number of top bops between them. Especially Red which only has one true dud: the one with the Snow Patrol man is one of the most boring songs ever recorded.

[PaulTMA]

A Great Pop Song

[sevendaughters]

Really feels like a Balkan Eurovision entry, even the visuals.

Don't think too many of the names upthread make much better. Ariana Grande markets pornography to children.

[Sebastian Cobb]

no thanks mate

[madhair60]

Ariana Grande markets pornography to children.

This seems like it may be untrue

[Twed]

No I've seen her sales projections, she really does, she's looking to hire more staff and start renting a Regus office unit and everything

[PlanktonSideburns]

Ariana Grande markets pornography to children.

Latest albums fucking mint. Wasn't a fan before it, but I'm fine with the whole selling jazzmags at playschools thing she did now, can happily separate art from artist

[Gulftastic]

Yeah, but the legs, man. The legs!

[McFlymo]

Can I hijack this thread to ask about another pop "sensation": Kelly Clarkson? She has a song out called "Broken But Beautiful" or "Broken AND Beautiful", someone I work with thinks it's an example of truly inspirational, feminist leadership that is going to help all the kids cope with the vast variety of potential mental health issues they might encounter, because truly, she is the underrated selfless hero and spokesperson this generation needs!

I just think it's a cynical cash in, using a subject matter that's currently popular. Furthermore, she, like many of these identikit, charmless, android, pop babes are so indistinguishable from each other that I can't understand anyone getting excited about any individual one.

And I hate all of her music (except Since You've Been Gone - It's pure cheese and for that reason, fun)

[Captain Z]

Panic at the disco,
panic at the disco,
panic at the Taco Bell

[Bazooka]

Imagine being an artist in the literal sense, and sleeping behind the canvas whilst 21 other people paint a picture for you, then you wake up and say 'not bad' and walk out the room. I'd love to feel that empowerment.

[Chriddof]

That's basically how people like Damien Hirst work.

[Dusty Substance]

I know nothing of Swift's persona, her life and I probably couldn't pick her out of an identity line up, so without any prejudice or baggage, I quite liked 'Me'. Surely any accusation of narcissism can be put aside because she's clearly aware of what the song's all about. I really liked the video, too.

'1989' remains a great pop album from recent years.

[kalowski]

I quite like a number of Taylor Swift songs. I can take or leave this one, although I like the "oh oh oh" bits. My daughter, aged 8, loves it, and we probably watch the video six times a week.

[sponk]

They play it several times a a day on the radio at work. I go from apathetic to apoplectic to "this isn't bad actually, he's got a great voice" throughout the day. The only thing I can be sure of is that he has a great voice. It's lovely.

I'd never listened to commerical music radio before starting this job and God it's much worse than any of the parodies I've heard make it out to be. So shallow and inhumane.

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There does seem to be two main song types on commercial radio (or at least the low rent local station my work radio is always tuned to):

1) "Oooh, look at me - I'm havin' a feeling. I'm dead emotional an that."

Ballads, boy bands attempting to appear sensitive (appeals to the birds innit), Adele, X-Factor types

2) "Woooooo! We going out, we going to the club! We in VIP, woooooo!" Etc

Everything else. Some of these can quite good, or at least they're more upbeat than the mawkish balladeer's funereal dirge's.

All human emotion and experience boiled down to simply: 'been dumped, sucks' or 'I like dancing'. Or various amalgamation's of those two essential building blocks. It's not all total shit, occasionally a decent tune emerges from nowhere but the emotional palette isn't exactly varied.

Mumford & Sons pop up quite frequently on there, which is just bog standard modern pop shite made worse by applying fiddles on top. That cunt George Ezra is annoying me deeply at the moment too, after the horror of 'Shotgun' he's unleashed an even more inane follow up. I want to say it's called 'Shiny Happy People' but I know that's wrong. You've all heard it anyway, fucking dreadful.

EDIT "Hey, pretty shining peoppppllle..." Yeah, you can fuck off mate.

[hummingofevil]

A Great Pop Song

I agree. It's pop by commitee but at least the commitee have an ear for a hook. We have had a decade of the likes of Rianna (Rhianna? Riana? - soz i've no idea) making nothing music. The fact "Me" is a massive tune I'm happy with. It's shite but memorable shite.

Coincidentally I'm listening to early Manics. Christ what a band - I hate all Manics music, actually most UK guitar band music - post Holy Bible - but it's a time where guitar bands had tunes; pop hooks wrapped up in rock music ( and James D Bradfield's guitar was a massive part of it - what a talent). We've all forgot the time where Manics, Nirvana, Pearl Jam et al ruled the world. Something else to fucking hate Britpop for killing.

[hummingofevil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqkG3xsq8_g

Ignore the second half which is utter wank and the crowd that are utter wankers but the Holy Bible part of this has more "pop" sing-a-long sections than most so-called pop acts.*

*Excluding Lizzo. You all need to love Lizzo. And Carly Rae. Charlie XCX is cool but has no tunes.

[bgmnts]

I will admit to liking Shake it Off and Bad Blood, as artistically void as they are.

I will definitely also echo the Manics praise too. Wadda band.

[hummingofevil]

I'm not missing point but we have to all recoginise that alongside the downfall of society there has been a complete collapse of pop music that runs though the margins. Take late 80's, early 90's. 2nd summer of love House, shoegaze, grunge, Manics... even Aerosmith and Iron Maiden... all had recognisable pop hooks. Where is the equivalant now? Britney bred the likes of Girls Aloud which were ace but then they died we are left with nothing: Little Mix. Pop became pop but all outlighting styles that had pop sensibilities died out. Ed Sheeren or Avici trance music exists but is a music that noone enjoys but everyone buys.

[hummingofevil]

I'm drunk again but my point is not that pop music is bad: it's fucking ace. But that the "pop" vibes that used to run through non-pop music seems to have disappeared. As someone who was Britpoper and now hates Britpop you can't deny the likes of Echobelly at least had a vehicle for a tune that no longer exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBPtP4t2J1k

Haway man. What a banger.

[Twed]

I feel like aggressive attitude has taken the place of hooks. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't care for the charts because it's 2019. But if I'm right none of this will age well. Almost all social group posturing seems laughable fifteen years later.