The Rise and Fall of Breast Physics

[The Boston Crab]

Having been playing almost exclusively on the 360 for the last couple of months, I've also been exploring the wider library beyond shmups and traditional fighting games, and this led me to try a number of pervy games like Dead or Alive 5, Dead or Alive Extreme 2, Girl Fight and Onechanbara. While a lot of shmups double down on the incongruous titties to appeal to affection starved Japanese hikikomori and for the sake of boner culture, I'd never played any actual pervy stuff before.


It made me think about how much time and money and manpower has been invested purely in breast physics and how cultural shifts have already made this immense technical progress redundant no sooner than it was perfected. One thing I was struck by in Uncharted Lost Legacy was how lifeless the two main characters' tits were. I'm not being gross there, I mean more from the sense that Naughty Dog have clearly made a conscious decision to be extremely conservative with any potential sexualisation of the two women, actually rejecting the physical reality of human breasts. RDR2 continues this trend further with the flesh of every NPC seemingly made of painted wood or wax, with any conspicuous tit evidently in rigor mortis. For a game so happy to lean on exploitation in every other sense, RDR2 is extremely retarded (in the literal sense) when it comes to female anatomy.


While this is a conscious step forward in a social sense, it's equally a denial of the available technology and the last ten or fifteen years of development in little rooms full of computers and JAV idol reference imagery in some bleeding edge Jap utopia. The move away from the technological advancements of breast physics leave the tech in the unlikely position of being a ruddy wastebasket of time and energy in the grand scheme of things. While it's interesting, funny and arousing to see a big pair of electronic rubbery balloon tits jiggling around during a volleyball game or a kung fu match, it appears that this software development has been largely stifled before it ever became mainstream. While I know you can't really compare because of the nature of the development, it would have been interesting to see a couple of the big devs and publishers try it out.


Imagine the edgy Tomb Raider reboot with realistic heaving breasts, finally available after all the years of squinting and using your imagination to fill in the blanks or round off the edges. It's like they're ashamed of what you they were peddling way back when and so Lara's breasts behave like they're armour plating. BotW was more than happy to play on the current 'connoisseur' trend for ass, where any breast positivity is mocked as infantile or 'white', but Zelda barely appeared to have any tits whatsoever. I'm not saying that this isn't right, at all, I'm just entertained by the idea that breast physics was such a significant area of development that was discarded before any mainstream devs dared to employ it and progressive social conscience has rendered the entire exercise void.


Any thoughts on breast physics or any great tiddy games to recommend for further research and laughs?

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pervy games like Dead or Alive 5, Dead or Alive Extreme 2

Do you tend to choose the dead ones or the alive ones?  My favourite game of the genre is Savile Simulator 2009.

[Default to the negative]

I don't know if the series has improved over the years but I remember the early Dead or Alive games had a poor critical reception. The consensus in the magazines was that they used the pornographic element to compensate for shallow gameplay. I think this is why breast physics came to be associated with low quality games, and something to be avoided if you want to be taken seriously at all.

[Cold Meat Platter]

It's a shame that breast physics has come so far but fanny physics is very much still in its infancy.

[Consignia]

I don't know if the series has improved over the years but I remember the early Dead or Alive games had a poor critical reception. The consensus in the magazines was that they used the pornographic element to compensate for shallow gameplay. I think this is why breast physics came to be associated with low quality games, and something to be avoided if you want to be taken seriously at all.

Not sure about that, Dead or Alive 2 was pretty popular on the Dreamcast. We used to love it because it had quite dynamic fighting environments, which was more fun than the static arenas of Tekken and Soul Calibur.

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It's a shame that breast physics has come so far but fanny physics is very much still in its infancy.

Of course they're all very much still in their infancy by the time.....



Actually never mind.  That was, erm....  that was a quote from Savile Simulator 2009, yes.

[Default to the negative]

Not sure about that, Dead or Alive 2 was pretty popular on the Dreamcast. We used to love it because it had quite dynamic fighting environments, which was more fun than the static arenas of Tekken and Soul Calibur.

IIRC, Edge magazine hated the first Dead or Alive. Then again, Edge could sometimes be a little pretentious and they did go through a phase of trying to prove that they were proper grownup journalists. You'd sometimes see them bringing philosophy and art history into their game reviews. DoA represented the adolescent side of gaming, which they were railing against.

[Thursday]

People are just much more into arses now, (literally) plays into the proliferation of anal sex in porn.

[bgmnts]

I was one of those weird dickheads who played Dead Or Alive because of the silly characters and the awesome stage change gimmick where you would punch some cunt through a wall and they'd fall hundred feet down a building and you'd carry the fight on somewhere else. The amount of damage i'd take just trying to manufacture this outcome was huge.

Was never arsed about the tits.

There is one very weird arcade ending where one of the female characters is accidentally groped by some poor bastard on a train, to which she proceeds to kick him out the window. Of a moving train.

Everyone else in the carriage simply just applauds this murder, odd.

Anyway, the developers are creepy pervs but I like the games. Well, Dead or Alive 3 mostly.

[biggytitbo]

The boob physics in the new Tetris game are great though.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Titris

[biggytitbo]

I think the people who make games are more 'arse men' anyway, as all characters in games always have great arses don't they, especially the lasses.

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larses

[The Boston Crab]

Just got the pun in the thread title haha

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Just got the pun in the thread title haha

It took me a while to get it, as well.  "Breast Physics" is a strange name for a game programmer to be fair.

[lazarou]

Not sure about that, Dead or Alive 2 was pretty popular on the Dreamcast. We used to love it because it had quite dynamic fighting environments, which was more fun than the static arenas of Tekken and Soul Calibur.

Going from what I recall at the time it was seen as a fairly solid and graphically fantastic fighter for quite a few years around the DoA2/3 era, but they basically ghettoised themselves as they went on by really doubling down on pandering to the more profitable side of their fanbase. DoA 5 being an especially egregious example where they added a very underage-looking '18 year old' character and absolutely went to town on skimpy outfit DLC. DoA 6 recently released a 'part 1' season pass for a little under $100. The previous game had seven of these.

[The Boston Crab]

DoA5 is a very snappy, impactful fighting game. It's much much better than I expected. The combos and strings seem to make sense and the animations and transitions between moves are very fluid and, again, logical for the most part. I certainly enjoy it more than the new MK games. I've really had fun getting to grips with the characters and I've enjoyed how responsive it is. A kick to the calf or shin comes out quickly and slightly staggers your opponent in just the right way. A roundhouse to the head sends them down in a crumple. The story is also probably more interesting to me than SF or MK ever have been. It's actually a good game despite it being geared so obviously towards the characters' tits in different costumes.

[a duncandisorderly]

I've been looking for a suitable thread to dump this yt playlist link into, because it's mostly quite entertaining.... this bit, though, fits in this thread sort of:

https://youtu.be/CFPA0QN1eOo?list=PLMFoDoF5WCjivNyZjSOWfzjD4TyFbvqhu&t=2