Author Topic: Alan McGee biopic  (Read 1588 times)

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2019, 11:36:54 PM »
i wonder who will play Bobby Gillespie, need to find someone who looks like a school geek on smack.

seriously though Alan was (after Ivo Watts Russell) the best talent scout  in the past 30-40 years.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 10:42:08 AM »
i wonder who will play Bobby Gillespie, need to find someone who looks like a school geek on smack.

seriously though Alan was (after Ivo Watts Russell) the best talent scout  in the past 30-40 years.

There actually was a guy in the year below me at school who looked exactly like Bobby Gillespie. Although he had the same name as a famous snooker player. He was in a band at one point as well. Dunno about smack, but a friend of mine met him on a train a few years ago and said he had black teeth, through smoking I'd guess.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2019, 11:05:13 AM »
An epic, eight-hour Netflix miniseries about the Scottish indie music scene of the late 70s, 80s and 90s would be amazing. And by 'amazing' I do of course mean 'Staggering that such a thing could even exist and hilarious for that very reason if nothing else'.

Not 8 hours but Scottish indie of those eras is covered in a few docs.

I would say

The Outsiders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdee7QaZgAU

and

Big Gold Dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_-2wBTHi4

are definitely worth a watch.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2019, 11:11:04 AM »
It should focus on all the utter shit landfill indie he signed to Poptones once The Libertines happened.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2019, 11:15:27 AM »
Not 8 hours but Scottish indie of those eras is covered in a few docs.

I would say

The Outsiders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdee7QaZgAU

and

Big Gold Dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_-2wBTHi4

are definitely worth a watch.

I couldn't be less interested in an Alan McGee biopic by Irvine Welsh, but these do look worth a watch. Where can we see them?

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2019, 01:36:02 PM »
It should focus on all the utter shit landfill indie he signed to Poptones once The Libertines happened.
The Hives were quite fun, at least at first, but I recall the Cosmic Rough Riders being absolute tedium.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2019, 02:06:20 PM »
It should focus on all the utter shit landfill indie he signed to Poptones once The Libertines happened.

The Montgolfier Brothers album is so great.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2019, 02:14:59 PM »
Teenage Fanclub aren't gonna get a look in are they? - Nice guys, great musicians and incredible songs... Fuck THAT!

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2019, 02:28:15 PM »
I couldn't be less interested in an Alan McGee biopic by Irvine Welsh, but these do look worth a watch. Where can we see them?

The Outsiders is here.. https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/22716/1/watch-our-full-length-documentary-the-outsiders

Big Gold Dream is here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M5aOKj3UQI

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
Thank you

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2019, 09:13:41 PM »
Thanks, Jim. I've seen Big Gold Dream, it's great, but I haven't stumbled across The Outsiders before.

The Hives were quite fun, at least at first, but I recall the Cosmic Rough Riders being absolute tedium.

Hate To Say I Told You So by The Hives is an absolute banger, one of the few great songs to emerge from that whole 'garage rock' revival. Unfortunately, it was their only memorable song. Good fun live, but the novelty wore thin.

The squat singer from Cosmic Rough Riders is the most laughably arrogant musician I've ever interviewed. He carried himself with the imperious self-belief of a man who could comfortably excrete three Forever Changes and a Bandwagonesque before breakfast, but in reality all he ever came up with was anaemic, generic, jangle-pop drivel.

He probably still thinks he's an overlooked genius.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2019, 10:44:02 PM »
Hate To Say I Told You So by The Hives is an absolute banger, one of the few great songs to emerge from that whole 'garage rock' revival. Unfortunately, it was their only memorable song. Good fun live, but the novelty wore thin.
A very good friend of mine paired up with a Swedish girl around the time, and I got tipped off about the Hives a bit ahead of the curve. Which unfortunately meant by the time 'Hate to Say I Told You So' became a hit here, I was a tad bored with it. 'Main Offender' was a decent song too, and I remember the proper parent album ('Veni Vidi Vicious') having one or two other entertaining garage rock numbers. Not in any hurry to revisit it, mind you. 

And your Cosmic Rough Riders bloke story made me chuckle, thanks.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2019, 04:09:57 AM »
I expect Hate To Say I Told You So to turn up on an advert soon.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2019, 11:37:57 AM »
They'd made a house near me up to look like Supernova Heights last week. I am shocked and annoyed that I was asked to be an extra.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2019, 03:59:17 PM »
Teenage Fanclub aren't gonna get a look in are they? - Nice guys, great musicians and incredible songs... Fuck THAT!

Of course they were ON Creation, but only after Paperhouse went bust in the great Indie Crash of '92 (what was all that about - was it Rough Trade connected?

I hope the film focuses in great detail on the compilation of C-RE 128, which was sellotaped onto the front of Select magazine in 1992.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2019, 04:20:08 PM »
The Cosmic Rough Riders' album - something about Melodic Sunshine - remains the only album I've taken back to the shop and swapped it on account of it being the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard.

Surprisingly, the assistant had no qualms about swapping it which surprised me on one level and not at all on another.  I love all that jingly jangly indie wank but, it turns out, even I have limits.

As for the film, I wonder if they're going to include the part about Oasis never signing to Creation at all because Marcus Russell advised against it?

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2019, 04:30:59 PM »
I hope the film focuses in great detail on the compilation of C-RE 128, which was sellotaped onto the front of Select magazine in 1992.

I've got my fingers crossed for a scene showing Jim Reid and Bobby Gillespie teaching Stephen from The Telescopes the correct way to stagger around in a nihilistic torpor while clutching onto a microphone stand.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2019, 04:45:43 PM »
Of course they were ON Creation, but only after Paperhouse went bust in the great Indie Crash of '92 (what was all that about - was it Rough Trade connected?

I hope the film focuses in great detail on the compilation of C-RE 128, which was sellotaped onto the front of Select magazine in 1992.

They left because they wanted to be on Creation, I thought,  Paperhouse were pissed off at having their contract fulfilled by 'The King', the instrumental album they tossed off.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2019, 04:51:09 PM »
He came. He invented Baby Amphetamine. He sold his soul to Sony. He signed up Mishka.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2019, 05:47:18 PM »
This should be a redo of Passion of The Christ except instead of blasphemy the bald cunt's crucified for giving the world Oasis and Bobby Gilespie, and instead of resurrection or whatever else he just gets shoved into a fucking big microwave specially built by Amstrad and nobody gets saved, learns fuck all or anything else

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2019, 06:17:33 PM »
They left because they wanted to be on Creation, I thought,  Paperhouse were pissed off at having their contract fulfilled by 'The King', the instrumental album they tossed off.

The King was released after they'd signed to Creation and after the release of Bandwagonesque, apparently to fulfil their contract with Matador in the US so they could sign to Geffen.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2019, 06:27:48 PM »
This should be a redo of Passion of The Christ except instead of blasphemy the bald cunt's crucified for giving the world Oasis and Bobby Gilespie, and instead of resurrection or whatever else he just gets shoved into a fucking big microwave specially built by Amstrad and nobody gets saved, learns fuck all or anything else
Oasis would have happened even if McGee had exploded in a puff of cocaine in 1992 or whatever - Sony would have found/created some other quasi-indie to stick them on. You can blame him for Gillespie having a career in pop music for nearly two decades, though, that's his true legacy.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2019, 06:28:27 PM »
The King was released after they'd signed to Creation and after the release of Bandwagonesque, apparently to fulfil their contract with Matador in the US so they could sign to Geffen.

The King was definitely released before Bandwagonesque, but you're right about it being on Matador.  A Catholic Education was on Paperhouse wasn't it? 

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2019, 09:40:12 PM »
Yes it was. The King was on Creation I think. They were definitely on there by '91.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2019, 11:30:45 PM »
The King is such a short album (32 minutes or something) but it's remarkably boring.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2019, 08:46:26 AM »
I know someone whose favourite TFC album is Catholic Education. Fucking weirdo.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2019, 08:57:26 AM »
Of course they were ON Creation, but only after Paperhouse went bust in the great Indie Crash of '92 (what was all that about - was it Rough Trade connected?
It was Rough Trade Distribution that went under wasn't it? The lack of distribution then impacted thier clients. That was a delayed aftershock of the collapse of Red Rhino and The Cartel in 1988, followed by Fast Forward in 1990. Factory's demise in 1992 was of their own making, of course.

I wonder if Bill Drummond will be a character in the film? The Man is McGee's 5th favourite album.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2019, 09:15:26 AM »
I know someone whose favourite TFC album is Catholic Education. Fucking weirdo.

It's mine, I must say - but I gave up after Bandwagonesque (which I thought at the time was overrated).

I mean, it's got Everything Flows on it.

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Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2019, 09:17:56 AM »
It was Rough Trade Distribution that went under wasn't it? The lack of distribution then impacted thier clients. That was a delayed aftershock of the collapse of Red Rhino and The Cartel in 1988, followed by Fast Forward in 1990. Factory's demise in 1992 was of their own making, of course.

I was thinking of Boo Radleys, who were on Rough Trade when it went bust. Paperhouse didn't fold (!) until a little bit later - and a while after TFC left.

Re: Alan McGee biopic
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2019, 09:20:26 AM »
I wonder if Bill Drummond will be a character in the film? The Man is McGee's 5th favourite album.
With good reason, of course. 'Julian Cope is Dead' is fantastic.