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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2019, 03:35:00 PM »
Not that I thought that it wouldn't be shit, but I've always had it in mind for a viewing, just because it's Rik in a big Hollywood movie (and alongside Phoebe Cates, too).

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2019, 04:14:18 PM »
I don't even like Drop Dead Fred very much, I just really hate people who cannot understand it.

To be fair, you didn't get the purpose of an Anthony Jeselnik joke the other day, so it happens.

Anyway, it's a bad film in that it effectively killed any chance of Rik Mayall becoming a Hollywood movie star, which I reckon he was perfectly capable of. So yeah bin it.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2019, 05:35:57 PM »
He also blew his chance with Harry Potter, but he obviously couldnae give two fucks about that.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2019, 06:41:33 PM »
To be fair, you didn't get the purpose of an Anthony Jeselnik joke the other day, so it happens.
Holy shit you are you still going on about me not liking Jeselnik's bad joke

This is CaB, the entire point is calling things crap.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2019, 09:10:00 PM »
This is CaB, the entire point is calling things crap.

Apparently not Drop Dead Fred though...

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2019, 09:41:33 PM »
All men are rapers.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2019, 09:57:57 PM »
'you said she was mousey'
i thought had they done a few things differently then this would have been a masterpiece  its incoherent, but parts of this was one of the funniest films ive ever seen...Pheobe Cates playing peekaboo randomly over dinner and  pouring water over herself, beating up a violinist telling her mother to piss off.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2019, 10:06:55 PM »
All men are rapers.

Aw, bless.  The little man thinks that he can trigger me.  How cute.  He'll be standing on two feet soon enough.  How fast they grow.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2019, 10:57:32 PM »
'you said she was mousey'
i thought had they done a few things differently then this would have been a masterpiece  its incoherent, but parts of this was one of the funniest films ive ever seen...Pheobe Cates playing peekaboo randomly over dinner and  pouring water over herself, beating up a violinist telling her mother to piss off.

If you read it as Fred being totally a figment of her mind, the imaginary friend she invented in childhood to help her through her dysfunctional family reinvoked to help her cope with the stress of her marriage ending, a lot of what goes on is less wacky nonsense and more sad nervous breakdown.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2019, 11:35:08 AM »
Holy shit you are you still going on about me not liking Jeselnik's bad joke

This is CaB, the entire point is calling things crap.

No, I mean not getting it, as was the point of this thread.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2019, 04:05:52 PM »
All men are rapers.

And what makes them so is having beauty like what I have got.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2019, 04:53:06 PM »
phoebe cates, though.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2019, 05:58:03 PM »
No she doesn't.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2019, 05:58:58 PM »
No she doesn't.

ah, the old "the who live at leeds" gag.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2019, 06:08:15 PM »
They do? That can make dental visits unpleasant.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2019, 07:02:54 PM »
No she doesn't.

Leanne Rimes? Does it bollocks.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2019, 07:06:01 PM »
Leanne Rimes? Does it bollocks.

no, eejit, that's her rap-battle name.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2019, 03:57:23 PM »
There was a post sprung to mind about this from back when the Drop Dead Fred review was first posted so I dug it up and it turns out it's by Twed.

Excuse me but I think I was the first to claim this land.

It is a widely misunderstood film. Here's the (insufferable, inexplicably popular) Nostalgia Critic's take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_FCFkm7sM He mainly focuses on how annoying Rik Mayall is, calling him "the anus of comedic laughter". (Surely laughter isn't typically comedic in itself but rather a response to comedy? Never mind.)

To me the Nostragia Critic exemplifies the impossibility of America ever really having understood Rik Mayall. I think they just found him horrific. One of my best friends is American, lived in the UK for years, is a huge comedy nerd, knows his Partridge etc, saw The Young Ones for the first time and just sat in stunned uncomprehending silence, apparently.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2019, 03:59:32 PM »
If you read it as Fred being totally a figment of her mind, the imaginary friend she invented in childhood to help her through her dysfunctional family reinvoked to help her cope with the stress of her marriage ending, a lot of what goes on is less wacky nonsense and more sad nervous breakdown.

Absolutely. It's very dark (and I don't just mean in the usual crap "oh this kids' film is very dark) sort of way. It's an odd film but good, I think.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2019, 03:05:24 PM »
always think it is telling that DDF is directed by a European, much more of an anal stage poo humour as Freudian hellscape metaphor tendency there. I think it is an ambitious and sporadically good film, but possibly coloured by nostalgia and thinking that Rik Mayall was the funniest man on earth at age 10 (still don't hugely disagree at 36).

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2019, 03:11:46 PM »
He isn't on earth anymore


Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2019, 03:47:36 PM »
lasted 2 min with the Nostalgia Critic, absolute nerve of that cunt for talking about irritating humour

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2019, 04:40:46 PM »
lasted 2 min with the Nostalgia Critic, absolute nerve of that cunt for talking about irritating humour

Quite.  No shred of self-awareness, obviously.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2019, 07:17:48 PM »
https://youmustdrinkourtea.tumblr.com/post/111617135540/rik-mayall-interviewed-by-david-letterman

Depressing to watch... Rik's Hollywood career was a lost cause.

That's horrible. I like David Letterman, but he's such an obnoxious prick there. His whole attitude is one of weary condescension, as if interviewing this unknown British comedian is entirely beneath him. Poor Rik.

Also, without wishing to sound like one of those dreary "Americans just don't get our crazy British humour" nuisances, I think Letterman and his audience are genuinely perturbed by Rik saying 'shit' and almost saying 'cunt'. That's the sort of thing he could've probably got away with on the hip, anarchic Late Night with David Letterman show, but not on the more conservative CBS iteration.
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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2019, 09:27:14 PM »
That's horrible. I like David Letterman, but he's such an obnoxious prick there. His whole attitude is one of weary condescension, as if interviewing this unknown British comedian is entirely beneath him. Poor Rik.
This is the main reason why I hate Letterman. He's a massive prick as soon as anything happens outside of the bounds of being a prepared promotional appearance.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2019, 09:52:51 PM »
Have you watched early Letterman? '80s Letterman? His entire shtick was sending up sycophantic showbiz conventions. And then he became the very thing he initially parodied.

That Rik interview is indicative of the point where he stopped caring.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2019, 10:15:57 PM »
Have you watched early Letterman? '80s Letterman? His entire shtick was sending up sycophantic showbiz conventions. And then he became the very thing he initially parodied.

That Rik interview is indicative of the point where he stopped caring.
Ah, I see. No, I definitely haven't seen him when he was apparently any good. He's very bad in most of the "classic moments" clips I've seen, which are things like Andy Kaufman and Crispin Glover appearances.

If I was in his position I would relish the chaos.

Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2019, 12:26:41 AM »
Rik Mayall proved in this film that he was the actor to lead a Doctor Who renewal. The role he was born to play and nobody thought of it.

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Re: People who don't understand Drop Dead Fred
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2019, 03:29:48 AM »
Ah, I see. No, I definitely haven't seen him when he was apparently any good. He's very bad in most of the "classic moments" clips I've seen, which are things like Andy Kaufman and Crispin Glover appearances.

If I was in his position I would relish the chaos.

Well he's playing along in the Kaufman bits, they were all prearranged to a certain extent. Dave understood that he was required to play the baffled straight man. He adored Kaufman, hence why he had him on the show so frequently.

Glover was attempting to emulate Kaufman - and where better to do that than on the David Letterman show? - but almost kicking our man in the head was a, hoho, step too far.

There are hours and hours of Letterman at his chaos-embracing best on YouTube.

I mean, he gets the joke here, he's revelling in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p0sr2BejUk&t=26s