Author Topic: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)  (Read 801 times)

magval

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How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« on: July 10, 2019, 06:53:13 PM »
Here.

I got some plugs, into which other electrical items are inserted. Synced them to me Wi-Fi, so I was able to turn them on and off with the app on my phone. Handy as I don't have to reach down the back of a big unit of books.

However.

Out of total curiosity, I decided today to see if the app worked remotely, which it does. I'm able to to turn the lights in my home on and off from work. Naturally, when I'm at work, I'm not on my home Wi-Fi to which the plugs are connected.

How is this possible?

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 07:01:10 PM »
How do you know it's possible?

magval

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 07:08:32 PM »
I was on the phone with my wife when I tested it.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 07:10:50 PM »
Mate.

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 07:12:06 PM »
Magic.

Or ghosts.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 07:16:10 PM »
This is how the Philips Hue system works, but I'm sure whatever you've bought follows a similar principle:



Those Google WiFi access points work in a similar way in that I can see who's connected to my home wireless network even when I'm out and about and can block specific devices and carry out remote speed tests. Of course, it's only possible thanks to our blind willingness to surrender every nugget of privacy to multinational conglomerates in order to save ourselves having to occasionally move a bookcase the Internet of Things.

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 07:19:46 PM »
Your wife's winding you up.

magval

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 07:22:53 PM »
I think I understand, so it's not the Wi-Fi where the whole connection lives, it's like a higher-tier cloud account to which my Wi-Fi has access, as does my mobile data.

Makes more sense.

Shut thread.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 07:23:58 PM »
Ghosts. They use ghosts.


Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2019, 07:41:26 PM »
IOT and AMPQ.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2019, 07:59:47 PM »
I think I understand, so it's not the Wi-Fi where the whole connection lives, it's like a higher-tier cloud account to which my Wi-Fi has access, as does my mobile data.

Makes more sense.

Shut thread.

The WiFi is connected to the internet, and your mobile phone is connected to the internet. Anything connected to the internet can talk to anything else connected to the internet, at least in principle. The details are for nerds, sorry for being a dick.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2019, 09:19:16 PM »
Why would you want to turn the lights on/off when you're not at home?
Or am I missing something?

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2019, 09:32:15 PM »
Basically, Philips knows precisely when you turn your lights on and off. That's... reassuring, I guess?

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2019, 09:33:33 PM »
Why would you want to turn the lights on/off when you're not at home?
Or am I missing something?

Dunno. I thought about getting some remote controlled sockets and using a raspberry pi to control them; switching the lights (and maybe my amp) on if it's past sunset and my mobile phone is present on the network.

magval

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2019, 10:44:11 PM »
Why would you want to turn the lights on/off when you're not at home?
Or am I missing something?

You wouldn't, but you could use the same function to avail of remote control over anything that runs on electricity, I dunno, stick the oven on, something like that.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2019, 10:45:20 PM »
You wouldn't, but you could use the same function to avail of remote control over anything that runs on electricity, I dunno, stick the oven on, something like that.

If only there was some decades-old technology that could turn ovens and central heating on at a specific point in the day.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2019, 11:17:22 PM »
If only there was some decades-old technology that could turn ovens and central heating on at a specific point in the day.

Not sure my missus would like being called 'technology' though

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2019, 11:54:31 PM »


How many servers does it take to turn on a lightbulb?

I've got my home lights linked to a kanban implementation in Trello, with replacements for blown bulbs handled through Bugzilla. I used to use stock Redis before I migrated the on/off switch to Azure. I've still got shed and garage lighting running on Openstack, fucking lol at that. 

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2019, 01:10:03 AM »
I've got ordinary switches, bitches.

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2019, 07:44:34 AM »
My grandpa used to have a thing where he could turn the lights on and off by clapping his hands. That was pretty fun. Don't think it worked when he wasn't home though, not that we ever tested it.

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2019, 07:50:00 AM »
Your house is gonna kill you one day.

Hope this helps :)

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2019, 07:58:23 AM »

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2019, 08:03:07 AM »
Q. How many Philips software engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. None, it's a hardware issue.

Q. Why doesn't my Philips lightbulb work?
A. We have a copy of your lightbulb in the office and it's working fine.

snort!

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2019, 10:13:02 AM »
Anyone who has seen this 90's documentary should be really concerned about connected devices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2HPq-WDnFQ

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Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2019, 02:20:04 PM »
Anyone who has seen this 90's documentary should be really concerned about connected devices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2HPq-WDnFQ

That documentary relies on a belief in Mind-body dualism, which is clearly bollocks.

This 1977 documentary, on the other hand, focusses on the threat from the development of a murderously intelligent, sensually self-programmed non-being: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4jWyyhyxSg.

Enjoy your coloured lightbulbs, suckers. In ten years time, they'll be crawling up your rectum in a bid to reproduce with you.

Re: How is this possible? (Smart Home App Question Thread)
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2019, 05:29:18 AM »
Basically, Philips knows precisely when you turn your lights on and off. That's... reassuring, I guess?
and where you were when the request was made and so does any one else who wants to know