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Best ever key change
« on: July 12, 2019, 09:46:52 PM »
My mate reckons it's Johnny Cash 'The Night Hank Williams came to town'(but it has to be off the best of album apparently).

I've not listened to it yet as I'm in the pub.

No eurovision allowed.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 09:48:51 PM »

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 10:20:03 PM »
Bet you laughed

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 10:58:20 PM »
Incredible one on gate of japanesia by water melon group, I imagine that's how a football fan feels when a particularly great Goal happens

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 11:49:56 PM »
'Rocket From A Bottle' by XTC because it changes down, not up like you expected.

Oooh XTC again is it non capisco? You like them, don't you? You should bring them over for dinner SHUT UP MUM.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 12:14:13 AM »
Just totally in love with that moment in Thinking Fellers' Father when it goes from being an ominous Chairs Missing Wire-like thing to a joyous banjo barnstormer.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 12:47:25 AM »
Just totally in love with that moment in Thinking Fellers' Father when it goes from being an ominous Chairs Missing Wire-like thing to a joyous banjo barnstormer.

I have never heard this song before and its fucking excellent, cheers!

THAT'S the CaB I know and love!

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 08:45:07 AM »
A couple that spring to mind:

Buzzcocks’ ’I Don’t Mind’
Prefab Sprout’s ’Faron Young’

There are probably others but I’ve not had enough coffee to think of them.

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2019, 08:52:03 AM »
Hats off to Harry Nilsson.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2019, 09:26:46 AM »
The one two in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IySDMk2iFT8

At the point where the lyrics say "just another key change." (actually one for each word)

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2019, 09:43:36 AM »
Up the Junction by Squeeze has a nice one cause they work the chords into the change quite well.

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2019, 10:02:29 AM »
Just about every track on Pet Sounds has a key change, and not one of them is obvious or cliched.

Wouldn't It Be Nice starts with a key change, has a key change going into the middle section, and
a marvellous return change coming out again.

God Only Knows seems to teeter between two keys, you never quite know which key it is in, and
the middle section again has a brilliant subtle change and when the vocal comes back in...

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2019, 10:03:09 AM »
EW&F’s ‘After the love has gone’ is full of them but the best is surely where the chorus gets ratcheted up another 4th just when you think it’s settled into a key.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 10:14:12 AM »
Gong's Isle of Everywhere changes key every 8 bars in a cycle of G, Bb, C#, E and on to G again. Lovely feel of constantly rising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9knIlUc5Cs

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 10:31:25 AM »
Cardiacs have good form for songs that continue to modulate through the course of the song about 10 or so times, Dirty Boy and In a City Lining spring to mind.

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Re: Best ever key change
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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 10:52:02 AM »
The one two in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IySDMk2iFT8

At the point where the lyrics say "just another key change." (actually one for each word)

Just wanted to mention how I've always thought it neat how the title of this track is a spoonerism of 'A Certain Kind' off the first Soft Machine album.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 12:19:20 PM »
Sowing The Seeds Of Love by TTF has more key changes than Elizabeth Taylor's front door.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 08:48:22 PM »
The one in the 12'' version of That Petrol Emotion's Genius Move.

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2019, 12:37:34 AM »
"How strange the change from major to minor..."

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2019, 11:45:19 AM »
Be aware that there's a difference between a key change and a modulation. Not my job to educate you though.

Best key change is bonjovi living on a prayer. 3 semitones.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2019, 05:31:13 PM »
No idea if this is a key change, a modulation or anything, but I get a profound physical reaction - pretty much the same feeling as the rushes I would get when coming up on ecstasy (when I did that sort of thing) -  at 10.50 to 11.05 in Steve Reich's 8 Lines (Octet version). I don't have the technical nous to know what he's up to there, but - by Christ - I feel it. Truly transcendental.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2019, 06:01:41 PM »
Sounds like he changes mode while sticking to the same notes. The bass (which determine key more than anything else) disappears in preparation for the the change. Moves from a key centre of Eb (Dorian mode) to one of Bb (Aeolian mode or minor mode). It's more like a chord change in the same key than some of the key changes others have described so far, which are like sharp corners turned in the music.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2019, 08:58:31 PM »
For me it's genuinely Genesis - Invisible Touch. That's the level of dipshit I am.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2019, 03:46:52 AM »
It’s when the key is lowered when Barry Gibb takes over from Babs on Guilty.
Strange magic.

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2019, 04:10:04 AM »
I have no idea what a key change is meant to sound like so I don't really know.


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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2019, 04:15:21 AM »
When the music starts using a different set of notes, including ones that wouldn't normally be included in the set of notes that came before. Often the same tune is played using these new notes. I think most people would perceive this as "the music got higher/lower".

Man In The Mirror is the classic example. Notice how the key changes dramatically on the word "change".

If you put a capo on a guitar, that changes the key. You use the same shapes to play chords etc. but it's transposed higher to be in a different key.

Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2019, 04:21:00 AM »
Honestly cant hear much of a difference so i'll bow out of this one. I'm sure there'll be loads I like though.

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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2019, 05:39:27 AM »
In Eurovision many songs have a key change near the ending (like a gear change on the last run through on the chorus). Somebody must have won with a song that did this once. If you search for "eurovision key change" you will see this a thing.

Not a Eurovision entry but a typical example (happens at 2:28): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_Fz2Np-Z4


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Re: Best ever key change
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2019, 10:10:31 AM »
The one which kicks off the guitar solo halfway through Come on Baby (Let the Good Times Roll) by Jimi Hendrix is an absolute beast.

Which reminds me... it's probably not a key change, but the moment which kicks off the guitar solo 1 minute and 4 seconds into Kracked by Dinosaur Jr is also sublime.