The all-new "Graham Linehan's a transphobic cunt" thread

[Chollis]

i've got a Pretty Huge Dick

[Jumblegraws]

Because she says this sort of thing:



Anyone reading that would be forgiven for thinking the 'Dr' is supposed to be relevant.

I honestly don't think having "Dr" in her handle makes any difference to how credible her assertion appears. Even if it does, that's not really an argument that it's intellectually dishonest for PhDs generally to have the 'Dr' in their handle if they choose to discuss anything outside their field of expertise. And even if I thought that was a reasonable argument, I'd put it to you that unless she specialised in the relevant psychiatry, she'd still be overplaying her credentials in the way you're suggesting even if she was a medical doctor.

[NoSleep]

Trust them to do what? I can at least trust them to have the expertise they say they've got, if they're speaking on something they're qualified to speak about.

You don't need to trust anyone, whatever their qualification. You can judge them by what they have to say; like in this case where the "doctor" says that somebody who claims they feel they are a woman is the same as somebody who claims the people in their life are imposters.

[Fisher Goes Berserk]

I don't agree with her position on this at all, but I think Moody has every right to include her title in her Twitter name. Academics are increasingly expected to have a professional presence on social media (whether engaging publicly in this debate will do her career any favours is another matter).

Last summer there was a Twitter trend where women with PhDs made a point of adding their title to their Twitter names to make a point about how women are often less comfortable than men about asserting authority in their field, and more likely to have that authority questioned if they do assert it. She may have chosen/changed her Twitter name on that kind of basis.

[Ambient Sheep]

The thing is, that's a partial foot-shoot.

As I understand it, all three of those delusions tend to have actual physical causes (e.g. brain injury, chemical imbalance, bad drug reaction); they're not usually purely psychiatric in nature.

So although she's got somewhat of a point (but not very much, as most trans people seem to feel that way from a very early age, rather than suddenly gaining a "delusion" in later life), she's actually serving to undermine the TERF argument that it's all a psychiatric delusion and/or a cunning plan to sexually abuse cis-women, by likening it to things that have an actual physical cause.

And yes, she's being extremely disingenuous by parading her doctorate that way as if it gives her some authority on medical matters.  Post-Preview-EDIT: Hmmmm, ok, re. the above post.  I suppose that's a worthy point.  Would help if she were less of an arse, though.

[bgmnts]

Bollocks to that. They earned it.

Yeah, hatefully laughing off trans related suicide on Twitter is hard work!

[pigamus]

You really don't understand this?

I have a PhD in Croatian Medieval Tapestries.

[jsgibble]

The thing is, that's a partial foot-shoot.

As I understand it, all three of those delusions tend to have actual physical causes (e.g. brain injury, chemical imbalance, bad drug reaction); they're not usually purely psychiatric in nature.

So although she's got somewhat of a point (but not very much, as most trans people seem to feel that way from a very early age, rather than suddenly gaining a "delusion" in later life), she's actually serving to undermine the TERF argument that it's all a psychiatric delusion and/or a cunning plan to sexually abuse cis-women, by likening it to things that have an actual physical cause.

And yes, she's being extremely disingenuous by parading her doctorate that way as if it gives her some authority on medical matters.  Post-Preview-EDIT: Hmmmm, ok, re. the above post.  I suppose that's a worthy point.  Would help if she were less of an arse, though.

This argument obviously isn't being made in good faith judging by her beyond awful comments about trans suicide, but the crucial difference is that trans people are only asking for something cis people already have, to be able to identify with which gender they like.

Gender identity isn't some obscure syndrome, it's the exact opposite, it's a social norm.

[petercussing]

I have a PhD in Croatian Medieval Tapestries.

I have a Croatian Medieval Tapestry of your PhD

[idunnosomename]

Doctors in philosophy came before doctors in anything else.

Anyway, Shipman was a GP ahhhh. Also a lot of them are cunts, and have cold hands.

[Ambient Sheep]

This argument obviously isn't being made in good faith...

Well obviously not, I wasn't thinking otherwise.

But as we've both pointed out, it even fails on its own terms.

[H-O-W-L]

Put these cunts in a big garlic press and have the studio audience of Record Breakers jump on the handle.

[Twed]

"Dead-ication, dead-ication
dead-ication, that's what you need
If you're clueless and obsessed
with gender purity tests
Dead-ication's what you need." - Deadication (written by Boy Castle and Cheryl Bakher)

[pcsjwgm]

Glinner freaking out over WeAreFairCop - "a group of gender critical lawyers, former police officers, writers & professionals" - sharing a Spiked-Online article and retweeting fucking Godfrey Bloom.
https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1162336733754789889

[keir]

I like how he's gone "Spiked though" at Gareth Roberts. Might as well go "Gareth Roberts though" at Spiked.

[Ferris]

I find it exhausting to follow this jabroni too closely so I only look at his feed every few months. I see he's gone back into this with full force - "one tweet a day" seems a distant memory. He will never let this go, will he?

[idunnosomename]

haha are graham there in deep denial he's become an massive reactionary conservative cunt in his old age

[Barry Admin]

Some bloke replying to Glinner, who was retweeting his "THE DISAPPEARED" blog.

🕸 RB supports Meghan Murphy
Replying to @DebbieHayton and @Glinner
Thinking over the long list of feminist women banned from Twitter, I was struck by how the feeling of loss is similar to that of the HIV crisis in the late 1980's and 1990's.

Beyond those we knew personally were dozens we'd never met, erased from our wider cultural conversation.

Gosh.

[Cuellar]

These lads need to get off t'internet

[idunnosomename]

1234 I declare a TERF war

https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1163425109455114241

[Ferris]

1234 I declare a TERF war

https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1163425109455114241

I know this is SRS BSNS but the context is really funny.

Solidarity with @lunarfish1524 taking crap from a woman ousting her from her own WhatsApp groups.

They Did Not Get Ousted From Their Own WhatsApp Groups In Vain.

[idunnosomename]

I mean that's the logical progression from seeing Twitter as this valiant battleground of Armagenderon and tagging @Jack and the board of directors constantly to try and get them to change their policy on bigots being suspended.

The disappeared thing is lunacy

[Barry Admin]

1234 I declare a TERF war

https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1163425109455114241

She's a really interesting character. When Posie Parker was heading to America to spread the "adult human female" campaign, Jean Hatchet withdrew at the last minute and wrote a blog, criticising Parker and others for some of the right wing groups they were cosying up to, including groups that were pro-life.

I thought the blog was deleted but perhaps it's been subsequently reinstated: http://jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-for-women.html?m=1

[Cuellar]

Jeez I have no idea what's going on with this any more.

[mippy]

I did see Glins complaining about a BBC News article about a trans female rugby player, because it was 'an intact male' that was 'huge' (the player is just under six foot, I've known several cis women that height and build).

'Intact male'.

[idunnosomename]

he's worried she might snap "proper" lady rugger players clean in half! I mean when you put it like that (go to absurd hyperbolic conclusions), it's disgraceful, isnt it

[Cuellar]

Haha I actually decided to dip my toe into that fray. Someone tweeted asking 'how it was allowed that a male can participate in female sports and enter female changing rooms', so I said 'is it because Kelly isn't male'. Saw one reply of 'OF COURSE HE'S MALE etc.etc.' then stopped reading them.

Pointless.

[Cuellar]

he's worried she might snap "proper" lady rugger players clean in half! I mean when you put it like that (go to absurd hyperbolic conclusions), it's disgraceful, isnt it

Ahh but their coach said she's injured other players in training before, which means she's basically a killing machine and must be stopped. Women's rugby has always been a gentle sport completely without injury before they started letting MEN play in it

[Blue Jam]

1234 I declare a TERF war

https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1163425109455114241

5678 I used this hand to...

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Hearing that Glinner has been excommunicated from the TERFs, is this true and what happened