Author Topic: David Berman RIP  (Read 1623 times)

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2019, 08:25:46 PM »
Will have to give that a listen at some point

It's been nice everyone saying how lovely David was but his spiky side should be celebrated too eg.

1. the story about him whipping a CD-R at Frank Black's bald head
2. him saying Spiral Stairs's pavement songs gave a new sense of holiness to the skip button on a cd player
3. his takedown of Radiohead

Please furnish me with where I can find point 3.

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2019, 11:31:30 PM »
Please furnish me with where I can find point 3.

https://pitchfork.com/features/interview/7519-silver-jews/

Towards the end of that interview

I actually think it’s quite unfair but still funny all the same

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2019, 11:44:23 PM »
Finding the lyrics of Purple Mountains a bit hard now tbh. This kind of suicide by a person who always seemed like they might do something like that (Mark Linkous immediately springs to mind) always dwells on me like a motherfucker in an "is that just the inevitable endpoint? is that even a bad thing if the alternative utterly sucks too?" kind of way and the extremely direct lyrics make it very raw listening...


At the same time though, great album, maybe doesn't have the extreme highs that are on the first three albums but on the whole it's better than any of them I think. Is that Cassie in the Darkness & Cold video? I see only one article directly saying it's her but it presumably is?

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2019, 11:57:31 PM »
Will have to give that a listen at some point

It's been nice everyone saying how lovely David was but his spiky side should be celebrated too eg.

1. the story about him whipping a CD-R at Frank Black's bald head
2. him saying Spiral Stairs's pavement songs gave a new sense of holiness to the skip button on a cd player
3. his takedown of Radiohead

Got a link for number 2?

You should also add his numerous sneers at Jack White/ 'Sir Edgar Scissor Blues'

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2019, 07:56:43 AM »
I've been listening to Purple Mountains non-stop.  It may sound tasteless to say, but what a perfect album to go out on.

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2019, 12:07:09 PM »
there's a remembrance out there by Will Oldham that spends half of it remembering the less good.

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David Berman is one of the most challenging and rewarding of people, of friends. He was a bold and powerful being who was, obviously, extremely selfish and flabbergastingly generous with his love, wit, intelligence and creativity. The first time I met David was in Steve Driesler’s house on Ohio Street (now renamed as the last stretch of Frankfort Avenue before you hit River Road). We were making the Palace Brothers record There Is No One What Will Take Care Of You and Bob Nastanovich brought David by to say hello. At the time, David and Bob were two-thirds of the Silver Jews. It was the Jews’ first release, the Dime Map Of The Reef EP that made me think to send our first recordings to Drag City in hopes of establishing a relationship. It was in recent weeks, David proposed that he, Bill Callahan and I tour together as the ‘Monsieurs of Drag City,’ with all three of us on stage trading off songs. David was brash and fragile, and connecting with him at any given time for any given reason most often felt like a gift. When it didn’t feel like a gift, it felt like an attack. And here we are somewhere in between.

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2019, 12:08:22 PM »
Is that Cassie in the Darkness & Cold video? I see only one article directly saying it's her but it presumably is?

Yep. Confirmed in his reddit ama. They said it was very cathartic. Someone had a go at him on twitter saying it was terrible he got a lookalike in and he was like "no, it's her."

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2019, 12:09:38 PM »
may as well go 3 post combo but Purple Mountains is as good as the first 3 Joos records. It feels like a total classic in a way I haven't thought of a rock record since maybe Public Strain.

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2019, 01:07:30 PM »
Yep. Confirmed in his reddit ama. They said it was very cathartic. Someone had a go at him on twitter saying it was terrible he got a lookalike in and he was like "no, it's her."

Upon watching it for the first time it didn’t even enter my mind that it was her as it looks nothing like the promo pics of her from when she was in SJs

I’ve since seen a couple of old pics that show it’s clearly the same person. I was probably influenced by my own disbelief that she’d be at all comfortable starting in the vid

think she’s just one of those people who look quite different depending on the angle/expression etc, DCB was also a bit like that.

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2019, 01:11:49 PM »
It was 10 years since we last saw her.

Just seen this tiny clip from (prsumably) rehearsals for the tour.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B08zBmhlcqx/?igshid=svcdyi0w4ym5


Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2019, 01:56:22 PM »
Fucking hell! It doesn't even look like his signature.



In fact, why is there a signature even on it?

EDIT: Does that say Average Wife Band?!

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #72 on: August 15, 2019, 01:59:18 PM »
Oh no, these are horrible!


Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2019, 11:51:06 PM »
There's a pretty intense eulogy from Jeffrey Lewis here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bEgdSeTAfM&feature=youtu.be

Re: David Berman RIP
« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2019, 05:33:49 PM »
I bought American Water on a whim in 1998 and one thing that struck me, in particular, was that David Berman was someone who gave the impression that he had everything sussed out, evidently hyper-intelligent and gifted beyond practically everyone as a wordsmith.  At that stage I couldn't detect any obvious vulnerability whatsoever, I presumed he was a cocksure kind of guy who would have a long career akin to what Will Oldham or Bill Callahan have made for themselves. As someone said, from Bright Flight onwards it became apparent that all was not well. To me, it appears he's come a long way from the personality he portrays on that album, to the nakedly depressed, self-deprecating and resigned tone of the Purple Mountains album.  I am sure his life has been far more complicated than I can possibly imagine, but to me, it's remarkable how on top of everything he used to sound compared to where he was on his final album.