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Re: TRUMP No. 9: A weird fucking bumble hex
« Reply #750 on: May 17, 2020, 06:05:29 PM »


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« Reply #751 on: May 17, 2020, 06:19:51 PM »
I've see that grin before...


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« Reply #752 on: May 17, 2020, 06:35:48 PM »
It will prevent any future embarrassment for her.

Wearing shades too. Really wants her identity hidden.

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« Reply #753 on: May 18, 2020, 03:09:50 PM »
Trump finally found a decorated soldier he wasn't embarrassed and jealous standing next to


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Re: TRUMP No. 9: A weird fucking bumble hex
« Reply #755 on: May 23, 2020, 12:25:22 PM »
He knows what he's doing.

Hold your fucking noses and vote Democrat.

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« Reply #756 on: May 23, 2020, 02:37:59 PM »
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« Reply #757 on: May 23, 2020, 05:32:44 PM »
no

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Re: TRUMP No. 9: A weird fucking bumble hex
« Reply #758 on: May 23, 2020, 09:56:02 PM »
OK, get full-on white supremacist fascism. That's literally the fucking choice.

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« Reply #759 on: May 23, 2020, 10:07:33 PM »
Trump’s dad was a white supremacist. Biden merely eulogized one. Get a grip you commies!

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« Reply #760 on: May 23, 2020, 10:11:05 PM »
While Trump was busy trying to segregate his dad’s housing, Biden was busy trying to block bussing. Get real you pinko scum!

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« Reply #761 on: May 23, 2020, 10:11:41 PM »
what i am saying is they are both white supremacists did you get it

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« Reply #762 on: May 23, 2020, 10:14:41 PM »
getting tired of the bit, 90s, Trump Central Park Five, Biden Crime Bill, you get it by now i’m sure

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« Reply #763 on: May 23, 2020, 10:16:10 PM »
oh yeah, present day, Trump Bloodlines, Biden saying those Palestinian babies dying in an open air prison deserve the consequences of their actions. get absolutely fucked with the lesser evil horseshit.

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« Reply #764 on: May 23, 2020, 10:16:19 PM »
I'm not going to blame people for not voting for a rapist (not to mention all the other shit Biden's done). either way I'm not sure if it will change much, the US are still fucked unless there's some kind of popular insurgency.

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« Reply #765 on: May 23, 2020, 10:19:49 PM »
OK, get full-on white supremacist fascism. That's literally the fucking choice.

No it isn’t

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« Reply #766 on: May 23, 2020, 10:22:51 PM »
Paul have you ever tried thinking beyond the year 2020?

The planet is dying and it's not going to get better with two far-right parties running the US.

Endorsing Biden with a vote is not the sensible grown-up thing you think it is. What is your endgame with a Biden win?

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« Reply #767 on: May 23, 2020, 10:49:54 PM »
I'm not going to blame people for not voting for a rapist (not to mention all the other shit Biden's done). either way I'm not sure if it will change much, the US are still fucked unless there's some kind of popular insurgency.
I always wonder how much some States can put up with this shit before they think "you know what, fuck it, we'll go it alone", or ask to join Canada.

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« Reply #768 on: May 23, 2020, 11:28:17 PM »
I think Canada would love it if all the good people moved here and all the bad people stayed in the US.

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« Reply #769 on: May 23, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
I always wonder how much some States can put up with this shit before they think "you know what, fuck it, we'll go it alone", or ask to join Canada.

don't they need a civil war for that to happen?

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« Reply #770 on: May 23, 2020, 11:50:10 PM »
don't they need a civil war for that to happen?
I've no idea, in honesty. I think there's been a fair few fringe groups who have mooted it in various states, and presumably they weren't planning on the route of armed conflict with the US armed forces.

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« Reply #771 on: May 23, 2020, 11:58:38 PM »
What is your endgame with a Biden win?

What is your endgame with a Trump win?

(A perennial question that will never get answered in these threads.)

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« Reply #772 on: May 24, 2020, 12:01:40 AM »
What is your endgame with a Trump win?

(A perennial question that will never get answered in these threads.)

I guess you could ask the same question to the dems

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« Reply #773 on: May 24, 2020, 12:07:46 AM »
(A perennial question that will never get answered in these threads.)
Have you ever read this thread? I think you're acting in bad faith and so I won't spend my energy on summarising what is immediately accessible to you. You're either genuinely not bothering to read this thread or you're pretending that not agreeing with something is the same as it not existing.

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« Reply #774 on: May 24, 2020, 12:20:01 AM »
I guess you could ask the same question to the dems

The Dems are stupid and incompetent and don't really care. Sadly we (or more accurately people worse off than us) are the people whose lives are ruined by another four years of descent into open fascism, which in this grotesque two-party binary system is the sole alternative to Generic Democratic Nominee winning.

Have you ever read this thread? I think you're acting in bad faith and so I won't spend my energy on summarising what is immediately accessible to you. You're either genuinely not bothering to read this thread or you're pretending that not agreeing with something is the same as it not existing.

Interesting, not seeing an answer to my incredibly simple question in your post.

Do you want me to do the work for you? Presumably the only possible rationale you could have, beyond wanting the cheap thrill of making fun of idiotic Washington Post columnists on Twitter for one week after the election, is that Biden losing will somehow shame the Democratic Party or Democratic voters into seeing the error of their ways and accepting a leftward shift. But surely even you must know that is nonsensical and the actual consequence will be a massive media pile-on against Bernie Sanders that will set left-of-center politics in this country back almost as much as another four years of irreparable fascist destruction of the planet that will follow from another four years of Trump.

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« Reply #775 on: May 24, 2020, 12:27:07 AM »
Do you want me to do the work for you? Presumably the only possible rationale you could have, beyond wanting the cheap thrill of making fun of idiotic Washington Post columnists on Twitter for one week after the election, is that Biden losing will somehow shame the Democratic Party or Democratic voters into seeing the error of their ways and accepting a leftward shift. But surely even you must know that is nonsensical and the actual consequence will be a massive media pile-on against Bernie Sanders that will set left-of-center politics in this country back almost as much as another four years of irreparable fascist destruction of the planet that will follow from another four years of Trump.

So it was the "pretending that not agreeing with something is the same as it not existing" option then.

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« Reply #776 on: May 24, 2020, 12:29:08 AM »
So it was the "pretending that not agreeing with something is the same as it not existing" option then.

I accept this post as an admission that you have no answer to my question.

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« Reply #777 on: May 24, 2020, 12:36:17 AM »
You want me to spend my Saturday night developing a campaign to change your firmly held opinion. You have the information, so what you're asking from me is an intense amount of effort spent on a fruitless task. I'm all set thanks. You understand that other people think that there's scope for change if the Dems prove themselves to be abject failures in their current mode, you just don't think the same thing.

At this point the only thing left to do is for you to lay out your vision for hope in a future where the right-wing Democrats are emboldened with a win. If I were you I'd begin trying to rationalise how the fuck Obama just made things worse when he actually had a mandate for change, and then try to reconcile that with how the Biden campaign is doubling down on the promise that nothing will fundamentally change. Good luck.

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« Reply #778 on: May 24, 2020, 12:54:03 AM »
Voters are being misled by a media that works for the corporate Dems. But they need something that they can sell. Do you really think that the likes of CNN are going to be able to continue what they're doing with yet another massive Dem failure? Do you really think they would be able to feed us the same dogfood? Eventually it will be difficult to sell advertising space on centrist networks. Bernie almost took things last time. The margins that progressives need to overcome are getting smaller each time. The onus is really on you to explain why whittling those margins further isn't productive, and why repeating the cycle that has been going since at least the early 80s is going to result in anything but doom.
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Re: TRUMP No. 9: A weird fucking bumble hex
« Reply #779 on: May 24, 2020, 01:06:58 AM »
ah yes, "our only hope is a slightly less right-winger who at least claims to be progressive, because an actual leftist will be destroyed in the media and the right-wingers are now doing whatever the hell they want and fuck the rest of us, and this is the only system that there will ever be" maybe try agitating to ditch the straight vote/first past the post system and move to proportional representation?

like there's no guarantee things will improve under PR because if there's no clear majority the centrist parties will conspire to exclude the nationalist party that actually tied for most votes from the process of forming a government but YA KNOW, things could hardly get worse

two-party first past the post systems do their utmost to make it impossible for any third party to get a foothold and it's pretty obvious at this point that the opposition parties in both the UK and the US don't actually give a fuck about anything other than lining their own pockets, in the former case even going so far as to sabotage their own party and in the latter case anointing a doddering old man the next presidential candidate because they're concerned with trying to court the conservative vote

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