The OTHER 100 best TV shows of the 21st century (acc. to CaB not the Grauniad)

[mothman]

Can't really think of many shows that would deserve to be on it.

Which is the point. The channel which has some of the nation's most-watched programs, and is forever making new dramas, is seemingly incapable of turning out anything either memorable or good, let alone both.

TV Burp is the best ITV show I can think of.

Has that been listed in this thread yet.

[imitationleather]

Has that been listed in this thread yet.

I don't think so. Get that shit listed!

[mothman]

*sigh* 52. TV Burp. Also...

53. True Detective and 54. Fargo. OK, both anthology shows, with wild swings in quality between seasons, but still very watchable.

[studpuppet]

Marion & Geoff[2000]
Human Remains [2000]
Catterick[2004]
Burnistoun [2009]
Hunderby [2012]

[samadriel]

60. Adventure Time.  Great world-building over the course of a squillion bite-size episodes, it always left me wanting more (in a good way).  Every dip into the apocalyptic backstory was tantalising, and built up a kids' cartoon into a special kids' cartoon.  More than the story, there were the characters; how could you not love BMO, or Princess Bubblegum, or Marceline, or Lemongrab? Well, maybe not Lemongrab.  The cast -- John DiMaggio, Hynden Walch, Tom Kenny, Maria Bamford, Ron Perlman... big names and small, commonplace or only occasionally heard, their voices added invaluably to the show.  I haven't finished it yet, but I can't wait to do so.

[phes]

I hope whoever compiled that list is reading this and is ashamed of themselves. But I know they'd just thinking, damn, I forgot about Broadchurch

[phes]

61. Help

Can I put Help in this list? It's not really fair on Paul Whitehouse to not. It's the show i'd point to if anyone had the nerve to claim that he's not brilliant

[phes]

62. Derek

Robot Grief Dog. Ricky Gervais gets everything beautifully wrong in this piece that deserves to bookend his career with The Office

63. Community.

On rewatch a year ago I realised that in terms of consistency the rot sets in right after season one and in the end it's awful. Season one though is perfect and there's enough incredible individual episodes in the next couple of seasons to warrant inclusion

64. The Simpsons 10-15

Still good enough

65. Ally Law's YouTube channel

If mid-morning matters and various other web-based series are eligible then it opens up a bit of a can of worms. I'm putting this in though. I can't really find a justification not to put this in when re-heated old guff like Fleabag is considered innovative/top-tier. I have to admit that I don't really know the genesis of trespass/exploration series, but I got so much pleasure from watching this channel that it seems a fair place to start

[selectivememory]

66.

If web-based series are allowed, then On Cinema at the Cinema is an easy pick. Including all the spin-offs like Decker and Tim's trial because they are all very much part of the OCatC timeline.

Edit: just to give it a quick write-up for those unfamiliar - the premise is that On Cinema is a film review show hosted by Tim Heidecker, who is joined almost every week by his "guest" Gregg Turkington, a self-described "film buff". The real subject of the show though is the relationship between the two, as Tim - who has no genuine interest in cinema - uses his show as a platform to air his political views, talk about his life, or promote one of his terrible vanity projects, while Gregg simply wants to talk about movies, and absolutely nothing else.

Then there are several spin-offs and specials which broaden the universe, and it does go to some truly unexpected places, plus there are loads of wonderful oddball supporting characters who pop up from time to time. I'd put it up there with the likes of Nathan For You and Review as one of the best comedy shows of the decade.

[mothman]

If you can have documentaries in the list, and web-based TV like anything from Netflix etc., then sure, why not?

[Small Man Big Horse]

I hope whoever compiled that list is reading this and is ashamed of themselves. But I know they'd just thinking, damn, I forgot about Broadchurch

The first season of Broadchurch was reasonably good, if only because Olivia Colman and David Tennant worked so well together. I wouldn't put it in a top 100 (or even a top 300) but I enjoyed watching it well enough. Went to shit afterwards though.

[Dr Syntax Head]

Gomorrah
That's been said already. In which case...

Misfits.
People just do nothing

[phes]

Gomorrah
That's been said already. In which case...

67.Misfits.
68.People just do nothing

69. Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle

How did they miss that

[Dr Syntax Head]

15 Storeys High. The best comedy show ever made imo

[rjd2]

15 Storeys High. The best comedy show ever made imo

Great minds etc.,,,its number 15 on the list.

Battlestar Galactica (Newer one )

Number 70

I know the last season or so had some misses and it dragged but first few seasons are pretty special and it ended nicely.

Always find it amusing that a show that moaned about not getting enough female viewers had some of the best female characters ever created.

[Dr Syntax Head]

Battlestar is pretty special

[Small Man Big Horse]

Battlestar is pretty special

Agreed, which is why I don't understand why they're doing yet another new version of it, I know it's not supposed to be another remake and just set in the same universe, but I still don't see the need.

Edit: 12 (again). Undone - Superb comedy drama from the makers of Bojack Horseman that's might be an exploration of mental illness, or a strange time travel show. Or both. The performances are stunning, the script's incredibly sharp, and it looks beautiful too.

[Blue Jam]

NoSleep put Undone in at no. 12... but allow me to third that recommendation.

[Small Man Big Horse]

NoSleep put Undone in at no. 12... but allow me to third that recommendation.

Bugger, missed that, but I've changed the numbering just so it doesn't derail the thread!

71. Big Time In Hollywood, FL - An absolute gem of a series, it's a real tragedy it only ran for one season. Created and written by Alex Anfanger and Dan Schimpf, this sees two delusional brothers attempt to become film directors, getting Cuba Gooding Jnr. (playing himself in a deliciously over the top way) involved along the way, and it also features Jason Alexander sending himself up in a way that made me laugh a ridiculous amount. Essential comedy, if you've not seen it I recommend doing so this very second

[NoSleep]

Agreed, which is why I don't understand why they're doing yet another new version of it, I know it's not supposed to be another remake and just set in the same universe, but I still don't see the need.

Franchise and canon; the two pillars upon which Star Trek had continued.

[chveik]

72. John from Cincinnati

[NoSleep]

Franchise and canon; the two pillars upon which Star Trek had continued.

Never thought about it before, but perhaps the cyclical nature of the BSG universe means that the last one was not a remake of the original, either; just another turn of the wheel. Although there's probably canonical errors between the two (not seen the original since it was on TV).

[Blue Jam]

Edit: 12 (again). Undone - Superb comedy drama from the makers of Bojack Horseman that's might be an exploration of mental illness, or a strange time travel show. Or both. The performances are stunning, the script's incredibly sharp, and it looks beautiful too.

Hehehe... Watching that series I tried to remember the last bit of TV I watched that had blown me away to the same extent and realised it was the Black Mirror episode "White Christmas".

73. Black Mirror, then. It was good before it went to Netflix.

The last series of BoJack Horseman really impressed me too, the eulogy episode in particular, but I think that's already in the list.

[NoSleep]

Isn't Black Mirror in the Graun list? In which case it can't be included here.

[Blue Jam]

Ah, right, sorry, I was unaware of that rule.

Alright then: 1. Fleabag

;)

[Ja'moke]

73. The Genius Game
The best gameshow ever? Very possible. South Korean reality-gameshow that requires smarts, strategy, and some glorious trickery. Brilliantly edited too.

[Blue Jam]

Baws, I see the Graun article also mentioned RuPaul's Drag Race so I'd better replace my nomination:

43. Death Note

Got to include one anime at least.

73. Aggretsuko. I've seen this referred to as "The Japanese equivalent of The Office" and  yes, it's worthy of that description.

[Bobloblawslawbomb]

74. Grandmas House

Loved this as I know a lot on here did too, great performances all round, most underrated bbc show of the century? I don't know, probably.

[Blue Jam]

74. Grandmas House

OH YES

[bigfatheart]

75. Bellamy's People

of the United Kingdom.

_{and Northern Ireland.}