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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2019, 05:40:57 PM »
Would you say they were particularly good albums?

Most of them: Not particularly I guess.

I liked Flying Lotus and a few of the others I've already forgotten. I am not going through all 200 again to remind myself. I don't care if you pay me A MILLION DOLLARS.

(I will do it if you pay me a million dollars really.)

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2019, 09:27:15 PM »
I've definitely listened to 16 of the top 20, potentially 19. Wouldn't be surprised if I've heard the entirety of at least half of the 200 albums actually.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2019, 10:22:15 AM »
im not really into all this Beyonce and Solange stuff they are putting near the top of the list, or Lana  Del Ray at number 9.
Pitchfork is definitely more commercial orientated. i dont go on it anymore.

i thought the decade was really good for music, much better than the noughties the list was better than i expected not terrible, lot of good stuff in there, but yeah it seems more pop orientated in general.  there was not much electronic music on there.

Returnal by OneohTrixNever should have been there and Salems King Knight also something by Lone or the Bug.


Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2019, 11:24:17 AM »
beyonce is not good music

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2019, 11:38:08 AM »
Beyonce solo is....aggressively decent. The real howler is the Carters record she did with hubby. Just billionaires wanting you to worship them for being woke. Just fuck off and make some art.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2019, 05:48:05 PM »
Just fuck off and kill yourselves you rich borin bastards you mean

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2019, 05:54:18 PM »
Basically no heavy music in there at all. I mean, come on, you couldn't at least have squeezed a Gojira record onto the list?

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2019, 04:59:08 AM »
Pitchfork has been trash for a decade, it can only aim downwards from here on out.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2019, 03:23:54 PM »
Basically no heavy music in there at all. I mean, come on, you couldn't at least have squeezed a Gojira record onto the list?


Well, they managed to get Deafheaven in there (and Pallbearer's not-as-good-but-more-palatable 2nd LP). I'll give Pitchfork one thing: they are continuing NME's rich tradition of solipsism masquerading as music coverage. A genre of music couldn't possibly exist until they hear it for the first time, and even if it did, it's vastly inferior to the iteration to which they've just been introduced.


Sunbather came out - what? Six ... seven years after Alcest's Souvenirs d'un autre monde? - when those chumps from Deafheaven had barely thrown together some shitty grindcore band, but yes, Pitchfork, it was Deafheaven that thought of mixing shoegaze with black metal.


Quote from: Pitchfork idiot
'To the chagrin of black metal and hardcore purists, Deafheaven also seemed determined to evade any distinctions between one brand of wall-of-sound catharsis and another, teetering endlessly between ecstatic chaos and the melodic romance of ’90s shoegaze and post-rock.'

No, to the chagrin of black metal purists, you hailed a sub-genre of music that had been around for nearly a decade as something new and revolutionary, completely missing the point about what made black metal from the previous decade so interesting in the first place, but black metal people be like 'Duhh, this doesn't sound like Mayhem, so is super-gay' and you're like 'wow, I'm so open-minded and cutting edge'.

I mean, Agalloch released Ashes Against the Grain in 2006 - and they're from Portland! Right under their fucking noses!

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2019, 03:49:57 PM »
Songs list is a much more fun encapsulation of the decade, have to say I've never gotten why Alright is the standout Kendrick song for so many. It's a great song on a fantastic album but it's not one I single out much ever.

Agreed. But it's more of a "message" song than the more obvious singles like 'King Kunta', 'i' and 'These Walls'. It's catchier than 'The Blacker the Berry' and less angry. And 'Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe' wasn't on TPAB and has the word 'bitch' in the title. These are the sorts of marketing arithmetic exercises that pitchfork writers have to go through before they have an opinion.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2019, 11:14:10 AM »
NME's list of the '10's is out:


https://www.nme.com/features/nme-best-albums-of-the-decade-2010-2019-2580278

I could't get past that Muse cover. My eyes were burning at it's ghastliness.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2019, 04:23:20 PM »
NME's list of the '10's is out:


https://www.nme.com/features/nme-best-albums-of-the-decade-2010-2019-2580278

I could't get past that Muse cover. My eyes were burning at it's ghastliness.

Ha! The Vaccines - so glad they reminded me about them (and NME's tireless, breathless championing of some of the most bland, nothing music I've ever heard: the very definition of 'landfill indie').

I wonder, when they were putting this list together and going through the archives, they thought: 'Christ, we really went overboard on them, didn't we? The internet has a long memory. We better stick them in the high 90s and then hope no one really notices.' When they write 'it’s an album that has aged spectacularly too', do you think they meant 'aged spectacularly well' - because missing that all important qualifier is the most honest thing they've written. It's aged so poorly, Post Break-Up Sex sounds like a student band's attempt at being a C-grade Half Man Half Biscuit, but forgetting to be funny, witty or convey character and pathos – I listened to it again, and I was transported to a gig in some grey tech college's Nelson Mandela Bar in the 80s where I was only there for the 70p pints, and even the band's girlfriends talked through the their set.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2019, 08:12:37 PM »
I know loads but lots and lots of that is P4k repositioning itself as the white voice of black music, basically.
There's definitely a bit of a guilt-ridden shift from white middle class indie-rock and IDM, which pretty much defined Pitchfork 1998-2004. I'm suspicious about its actual integrity, in that a lot of people have suddenly shifted their tastes from one style to another never feels very honest. A site like Pitchfork which, on a day-to-day basis, reviews pretty much every type of music around, should realistically have 'of the year' and 'of the decade' albums that reflect that, but despite the number of high scores they give to jazz and ambient albums, they'll still be drastically under-represented in the lists because the site has an overall image to keep up. Regardless of what that image is - and I'm overall much happier that it has an element of social awareness in leaning towards black artists these days - it still removes any sense of real integrity from these lists.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2019, 08:16:37 PM »
I've seen the same thing happening in a lot of these online zines and I think it's really hypocritical. what's the point of pretending that you enjoy Beyoncé or some shite like that

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2019, 08:32:39 PM »
they're under the Conde Nast umbrella and doubtless the very expensive purchase of that property was not done without some graphs and stats pointing out what drives the clicks.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2019, 09:00:30 PM »
Nice to see Kacey Musgraves there with Golden Hour.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2019, 12:13:17 PM »
I've seen the same thing happening in a lot of these online zines and I think it's really hypocritical. what's the point of pretending that you enjoy Beyoncé or some shite like that
I don't think people are pretending they like it. I know plenty of people who genuinely love Beyoncé. Just that the lists are somewhat skewed to represent an image of what people 'should' be listening to.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2019, 01:45:32 PM »
I fucking hate lists, but have some morbid draw to look. Regardless of the outlet, Lil Peep is getting mentioned at least.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2019, 02:02:30 PM »
NME's list of the '10's is out:


https://www.nme.com/features/nme-best-albums-of-the-decade-2010-2019-2580278

I could't get past that Muse cover. My eyes were burning at it's ghastliness.
still not as bad as the biffy clyro tree bending under the weight of little bags of dogshit

imitationleather

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2019, 06:15:57 PM »
About half of the NME's list is Arctic Monkeys albums.

Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2019, 10:18:34 PM »
I've seen the same thing happening in a lot of these online zines and I think it's really hypocritical. what's the point of pretending that you enjoy Beyoncé or some shite like that

Same reason you pretend to get 'worked up' about various problems in society.

chveik

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #81 on: December 02, 2019, 10:30:39 PM »
Same reason you pretend to get 'worked up' about various problems in society.

fuck off you tedious cunt.
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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2019, 10:45:09 AM »
About half of the NME's list is Arctic Monkeys albums.

As it should be.

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Re: Pitchfork's 200 best albums of the 2010s
« Reply #83 on: December 03, 2019, 11:46:54 AM »
Remember the thread someone posted recently which linked to some godawful website that was full of wankers moaning about 'chavs'? The NME list is from the exact same place and time. I find it genuinely hilarious that there are pockets of Britain where it's still 2005.