Corbyn 25: Don't recall the time I felt this alive

[Bobloblawslawbomb]

And still Labour have closed the gap from about 18 points behind to about 8 or 9 (if you the ignore YouGov BS ones) in about a week.

Thanks for the optimism Dr Rock, although I would feel a lot better about things if you called in another phone in show to talk about Cameron sticking his cock in a pig.

[NoSleep]

True, but it's not just the anti semitism, there's the Lib Dem bar chart lies, Tory press just getting started with the smears, Corbyn just openly being called racist by former mps, I've noticed even the lefty blue ticks are going, 'sure Corbyns racist but he's no worse than Boris'  just framing it exactly how the tories want, it's just absolutely relentless.

It will get worse when Corbyn wins the election; a whole lot worse, so this is just more of the same at this point. It's delivered so hysterically that I'm sure not all of the people are being fooled.

[Cardenio I]

Careful with the whens there. Hubris there. Careful.

[NoSleep]

Careful with the hopelessness there.

[NJ Uncut]

Careful with the care, there.

[Cardenio I]

Don't think it's hopeless to think that Labour might win the election.

[Paul Calf]

Careful with the hopelessness there.

[BlodwynPig]

we're just going through the motions. absolute drudgery with added spite and cheery sneering from newspapers, overheard conversations and sub-human scum.

END OF TETHER

[Zetetic]

Looks like the party might be shifting back towards supporting the right to move, live and work across Europe, which is nice.

[greencalx]

I'm feeling quietly optimistic. Not sure why - would like to see to see a systematic reduction in the size of the gap across all polls before I can convince myself that we stand a chance. However, it's interesting that the Labour campaign has opened on the areas where they are considered weak (Brexit, leadership, anti-semitism) and put out some strong and clear messaging, rather than trying to duck the issues. Don't know if it will cut through, but at least the lines are there.

[pancreas]

The election materials are a huge improvement on last year. Don't know if I said that already.

[Zetetic]

And the Tories have given us more than a fair bit of encouragement from a personally-unpleasant angle. Hope they'll follow-up with some sufficiently stupid policy choices like last time.

[Cardenio I]

Looks like the party might be shifting back towards supporting the right to move, live and work across Europe, which is nice.

It is nice, but in the event of a Labour majority and the Brexit operation going to plan I do worry that a referendum of Extra Soft EEA Brexit vs Remain will get absolutely savaged in the expected quarters. A problem for another time, I suppose.

[greencalx]

And the Tories have given us more than a fair bit of encouragement from a personally-unpleasant angle. Hope they'll follow-up with some sufficiently stupid policy choices like last time.

Yes, it was the "dementia tax" where the tide turned last time, if I recall.

[Johnny Yesno]

Are you going to defend his idiotic letter as well?

What idiotic letter?

[Lordofthefiles]

What idiotic letter?

"Q" or "q", it's fucking ridiculous whichever way you look at it.

[Zetetic]

Extra Soft EEA Brexit

What other "deal" could Labour pursue in good conscience? Where is the compromise to be found?

Yes, it was the "dementia tax" where the tide turned last time, if I recall.

I do worry that I overegg that in my own mind, but yeah.

[Johnny Yesno]

I guess Thugler means this, which I've only just seen posted in another thread:




It's unwise but is the tone really 'all the antisemitism is bullshit?'.

[Cardenio I]

What other "deal" could Labour pursue in good conscience? Where is the compromise to be found?

No, I think you're quite right, they will follow this line on Brexit and it's the right decision to make (morally speaking, never mind the fact that the only other option is a soft reboot of the May/Johnson deal). But I worry all the same.

[thugler]

I guess Thugler means this, which I've only just seen posted in another thread:




It's unwise but is the tone really 'all the antisemitism is bullshit?'.

I wasn't referring to this with the 'all the anti semetism is bullshit' that was his previous unwise comments, which i suppose were more suggesting that crticism of the process of complaints was bullshit to be fair. This is just a tantrum and even more unwise, his lack of awareness of what is unwise is the problem.

For the record i doubt he is an antisemite, but he's fucked it.

[Johnny Yesno]

I wasn't referring to this with the 'all the anti semetism is bullshit'

Then linky-link, please.

[thugler]

Then linky-link, please.

It's all on wikipedia, and widely reported in the media

[olliebean]

Don't think it's hopeless to think that Labour might win the election.

We have to hope. If the Tories win this one, this country is fucked. At least for the time being, and probably for the rest of my lifetime (which will be shorter due to the NHS being fucked).

[idunnosomename]

Give heavy heart a rest. Just say with regret christsake

[Buelligan]

I feel really positive, I've never heard so many people talking about actually getting stuck in and working themselves to support the party.  I think, I feel, we are going to win.  I just hope we have a big enough majority to ensure that we can get on and save everyone.

[pancreas]

Bercow defending Corbyn to Campbell.

[gib]

The election materials are a huge improvement on last year. Don't know if I said that already.

wouldn't know mate, it's possible there's a leaflet somewhere under the hundreds of lib dem ones on my mat.

[Pie Pie Eater]

Is everyone else managing to stay positive? If so, hooooooow?

Are you canvassing? I highly recommend it to stay positive. As well as spending a lot more time with other people being positive, to some extent you get the same effect as a shitposter being de-anonymised- people just become (or seem) a lot more reasonable. This is really helping me. I couldn't do it in 2017, and was much more pessimistic about things until the night of the result.

[Johnny Yesno]

It's all on wikipedia, and widely reported in the media

I don't know which letter you're 'paraphrasing'. If you can't be bothered to support your own argument, I can't be bothered to rebut it and will therefore conclude that you've realised you're in the wrong.

[Replies From View]

Are you canvassing? I highly recommend it to stay positive. As well as spending a lot more time with other people being positive, to some extent you get the same effect as a shitposter being de-anonymised- people just become (or seem) a lot more reasonable. This is really helping me. I couldn't do it in 2017, and was much more pessimistic about things until the night of the result.

The one problem with this is I would be shit at canvassing and ruin it for everyone.