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The 'who the fuck am I even actually going to vote for?' thread

Started by BritishHobo, October 29, 2019, 11:27:17 PM

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pancreas

Quote from: poo on November 06, 2019, 09:34:18 AM
I'm going Green again.

Interesting. What policy do the Greens have that you think is better than Labour's equivalent?

New folder

Quote from: pancreas on November 06, 2019, 10:06:17 AM
Interesting. What policy do the Greens have that you think is better than Labour's equivalent?

Labour doesn't provide a sense of smug self-satisfaction whilst making no positive difference whatsoever.

wooders1978

Don't like Boris, Corbyn or swinson - so what do I do here then lads and lasses

NoSleep


Dr Rock

Quote from: wooders1978 on November 06, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Don't like Boris, Corbyn or swinson - so what do I do here then lads and lasses

What about their policies, not the party leaders?

phantom_power

Quote from: wooders1978 on November 06, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Don't like Boris, Corbyn or swinson - so what do I do here then lads and lasses

Vote on policy not personality

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: thugler on November 05, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
Previously it's always been corbyn focused though. Surely some anti brexit people are going to see that this damages the prospect of remaining?


The line I've been seeing is 'everybody rules that out before an election and they have to form a coalition', which might be true if you stand a faint hope of winning outright. But the lib dems don't, do they?

NoSleep

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 06, 2019, 10:22:29 AM

The line I've been seeing is 'everybody rules that out before an election and they have to form a coalition', which might be true if you stand a faint hope of winning outright. But the lib dems don't, do they?

They can't plan to form a coalition without first agreeing with one of the other larger parties, who would deny this.

NJ Uncut

Quote from: wooders1978 on November 06, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Don't like Boris, Corbyn or swinson - so what do I do here then lads and lasses

Well none of them are standing in your local area for MP presumably so go by the local candidates' promises for the area (which means Labour basically)

Dr Rock

And any of the leaders could be gone in a year, your local MP almost definitely won't be. (also good to tell floating voters who won't vote Labour cos Corbyn).

Buelligan

I think policy's a better bet.  There are plenty of useless cunt MPs (on all sides).  Obviously, if the MP in question's a good one, then that's a different matter.

Ruth Smeeth is 108.

madhair60

I will vote for the first party I am directly told to vote for.


poo

OK I'm not voting Greens now. Borrowing plans are nuts. Fuck me they're all such a bunch of cunts.

kittens





Zetetic


Buelligan

To be fair the Green Party's borrowing plans are pretty low down on my list of real things that might affect human life.  They might as well say they're planning to borrow a new planet at very reasonable rates for all the impact it will have on reality.


pancreas


Uncle TechTip

With their green new deal it sounds like they are "borrowing plans" from the Labour Party! So just vote Labour.

olliebean

So here's the bar graph that came through the door today on the front of a fake newspaper:



I've looked up the survey and it seems to be pretty straight - a phone poll with only two questions: How likely are you to vote? and Who will you vote for? with the order of the candidates randomised. None of this "if none of the other parties stood a chance" nonsense. Although they only asked 400 people, which gives a pretty big margin of error. It's possible they commissioned a bunch of small polls, so they could cherry pick the most advantageous one for their campaign.

But regardless, it's started me thinking about whether, if they are actually the best chance of defeating the Tories, I would vote Lib Dem - and I don't think I could. Partly because I'm not convinced they're anti-Tory, but mostly because I am convinced they're anti-Labour, what with all they've been saying lately. (Also all the lying doesn't exactly make them seem like a palatable option.)

So I guess it's Labour for me, no matter what the graphs and tactical voting wonks say. (At least unless the Greens suddenly and unexpectedly look to be in with a chance.) I won't vote for a party that is explicitly opposed to the party I want to win.

Mr_Simnock

Just have a look at the constituency voting during the last election, the Lib cunts were a distant 3rd, they would need a swing to them on an incredible scale to even make 2nd place. VOTE LABOUR.

Famous Mortimer

Tactical voting is the thing that's allowed the awful worthless Lib Dems to carry on being a thing in British politics. Vote Labour. Get out on the knocker. Do a stall in your town centre.

Dr Rock

It is possible that a large chunk of those who voted LibDem instead of Labour in the EU elections are sticking with it, but how come that's not being reflected in any of the national polls?

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Quote from: NJ Uncut on November 02, 2019, 10:18:28 AM
My closest and oldest friend who teaches politics at sixth form level, who is the calm, gentle voice to my scrabbling, angry yelling, who self identifies as a socialist, has decided, Labour as he is, anti Tory as he is, Brexit is the defining factor so he is going to vote for the Brexit Party

Cue me going off on one a wee bit, nicely, I like this lad, but I called that vote "a short termist joke of a vote that ignores practically everything else going on for the country, just Tory enablers aren't they, that's the side of Trump now too, even if you want Brexit and it is sorted to your satisfaction ASAP, what will they do with the remaining four and a half years, will they sort the NHS, will they do anything for people on benefits" etc. Common sense basically

To be fair, he's in a seat dahn sarf that is blue, blue, Tory blue, that's the colour of your womb.

Anyway, this is sad, or saaaad. He's not gammon, he's my brother

Your brother he may be, but gammon he definitely is.

My condolences for your loss.

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Quote from: imitationleather on November 02, 2019, 10:27:59 AM
My A level Politics teacher had been a member of the Tories during the Thatcher years, but bizarrely was also a nice guy.

Nope.  He wasn't.

bgmnts

One of my mum's mates was a skinhead who believed in preserving a racially pure Britain but he was surprisingly quite nice.