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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #180 on: November 29, 2019, 02:57:13 PM »

Much of the rest of it can do one though. But I do think it is important to have investigate journalism programs that aren't on commerical channels.

They could investigate the BBC bias.

Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #181 on: November 29, 2019, 02:59:58 PM »
What is point of the BBC broadcasting investigate journalism if they can't be trusted to present facts on their own news coverage?
Investigative journalists are generally freelance and would probably prefer to take their work away from the Beeb now anyway, otherwise they could be tainted by association.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #182 on: November 29, 2019, 03:02:13 PM »
Most of their investigative stuff these days sounds like Millennial Center-think.

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« Reply #183 on: November 29, 2019, 08:44:42 PM »
Brilliant Novara media last night, interviewing an Irish guy (I didn’t catch his name) who summarised the whole situation at the bbc. Talking about how a public service broadcaster has its daily news agenda almost entirely set by the days tabloid headlines. Tabloids who are of course massively biased towards the right. Anyway he was brilliant and it’s really worth a watch.
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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #184 on: November 29, 2019, 08:52:51 PM »
I do actually agree with that bit.

I sort of agree, but I reckon I’d just tell them “I don’t need a license thanks” because they may be technically correct that they don’t need to reply but why not save themselves the hassle of getting a load of letters when they could just go online and say they don’t need one?

I’ve just realized I don’t have TV for broadcast telly and haven’t done for 7 years. Crikey. I could avoid the license fee!

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« Reply #185 on: November 29, 2019, 08:54:28 PM »
Only adverts on canadian tv. Im watching old buffalo baseball games on bisonnet

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« Reply #186 on: November 29, 2019, 11:32:13 PM »
Brilliant Novara media last night, interviewing an Irish guy (I didn’t catch his name) who summarised the whole situation at the bbc. Talking about how a public service broadcaster has its daily news agenda almost entirely set by the days tabloid headlines. Tabloids who are of course massively biased towards the right. Anyway he was brilliant and it’s really worth a watch.

Yeah the Irish guy was really good, got a feeling he's going to be playing a big part in the future.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2019, 08:09:04 AM »
It was really interesting. I have to say, I had previously conflated public service and state broadcasting and I now recognise that the bits of the BBC that I think are worthwhile and would generally support are the "public service" parts, and that bits that really fuck me off are the "state broadcasting" parts. The News and Current Affairs programming almost entirely falls into the latter, and this needs to change.

Also makes a good point about political impartiality being impossible in practice, and that the solution is for journalists to be upfront about who they support. To this I would add that they should expand the pool of political correspondents considerably to get a wider set of voices in there. Despite their many faults, there's nothing particularly wrong with Kuenssberg, Robinson et al per se, it's just that the views of this very small number of people determine the tone of the entire political coverage. (Actually I think I'm being a bit generous to Kuenssberg - even if you strip away the bias, she's a terrible reporter who can't see a story that's right under her nose because of a massive fucking agenda that gets in the way).

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2019, 08:17:11 AM »
It helps to have a viewpoint of your own before channeling the party line. Kuenssberg is an empty vessel.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2019, 09:27:25 AM »

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2019, 12:40:08 PM »
Fucking state of this.

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« Reply #191 on: November 30, 2019, 12:46:37 PM »
So they've fucking bottled it and backed down. The word yesterday was the Johnson would not be allowed on Marr until a date for an interview with Neil was agreed and announced. Johnson will string them along and never do it.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #192 on: November 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM »
They're well within their rights to replace Marr with Neil at the last minute and at least make his chickening out seem even more cowardly. But of course they won't do that.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #193 on: November 30, 2019, 01:43:12 PM »
wow. it's fuckin crazy. they think they're getting away with it too. well let me tell you, bbc, i just went to a morning screening of the joker movie. so i know exactly what to do now.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #194 on: November 30, 2019, 01:46:19 PM »
Oh great. So Johnson gets a relaxing Sunday morning blowjob from Marr instead of the rigorous bottom rogering we expected.

So cancelling my TV licence when I can be bothered.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #195 on: November 30, 2019, 01:55:24 PM »
Oh great. So Johnson gets a relaxing Sunday morning blowjob from Marr instead of the rigorous bottom rogering we expected.

So cancelling my TV licence when I can be bothered.

Do it now or i’ll ban you

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #196 on: November 30, 2019, 02:00:58 PM »


It's an utterly cringeworthy statement, they'd've been better off not pretending to put on an act of resistance at all.

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« Reply #197 on: November 30, 2019, 02:07:11 PM »
Would Labour have grounds for an injunction? I mean, it would probably be counterproductive politically, but one feels some sort of protest is needed.

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« Reply #198 on: November 30, 2019, 02:13:33 PM »
I just want to reiterate the praise for that Novara show analysing the BBC's "impartiality" it's a fantastic watch but if not a little disheartening when you consider how the establishment manipulate their assets to ensure the cards will always be stacked against a genuine left wing political movement.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #199 on: November 30, 2019, 02:19:29 PM »
The revolution will not be televised.

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« Reply #200 on: November 30, 2019, 02:53:02 PM »
Some fairly affluent Gina Miller type needs to do a public case against the BBC. Fed up of funding an old boys club where cunts like Stig Abell, Rod Liddle, Jonathan Freedland etc etc fucking etc can witter on as if they arent vacuous smartalec dipshits

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« Reply #201 on: November 30, 2019, 04:26:11 PM »
I just want to reiterate the praise for that Novara show analysing the BBC's "impartiality" it's a fantastic watch but if not a little disheartening when you consider how the establishment manipulate their assets to ensure the cards will always be stacked against a genuine left wing political movement.

It is a good analysis. As that show lays out, even for someone who has a deeply jaded view of the level of corporate and elite control in this country, the picture which is emerging in the response to Corbyn really is deeply sinister. The more one thinks about this latest BBC thing the worse it seems. BBC put out a clear line yesterday that Johnson wasn't going on Marr unless the Neil interview was agreed. Since then the government has clearly applied god knows what kinds of pressure to a supposed public service broadcaster and now the line has changed, with a clearly bullshit excuse about the London Bridge thing. The elite class just does what it likes at this point, barely disguised fascism.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #202 on: November 30, 2019, 06:20:59 PM »
Getting to the point where we need a third party country to tell us that our media and democracy is a sham.

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #203 on: November 30, 2019, 07:42:10 PM »
Getting to the point where we need a third party country to tell us that our media and democracy is a sham.

Putin has already said it

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #207 on: December 03, 2019, 10:26:27 PM »
i've got pissed for free with a bunch of cunts and would do it again

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Re: BBC Watch: election bias special.
« Reply #208 on: December 03, 2019, 10:27:43 PM »
i've got pissed for free with a bunch of cunts and would do it again

CaB meet?

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« Reply #209 on: December 03, 2019, 10:36:58 PM »
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