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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #180 on: November 20, 2019, 07:01:04 PM »
The BBC's Media Editor allaying people's fears:

"It is perhaps arguable that, like the doctored video of Sir Keir Starmer a fortnight ago, the re-branding of CCHQ as a fact-checking service falls into the broad category known as satire"

Given its current output it's perfectly feasible for the BBC to have no concept of satire.

#satire

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #181 on: November 20, 2019, 07:57:33 PM »
It's not a stretch though. It is fucking ridiculous. What is the satirical intent? The humour? It is clearly misinformation

The full statement, to me, says 'To be fair, one could argue it was some form of satire - but that's pretty much bollocks, the intent was clearly to mislead'

I disagree that there there is any way of looking at it as satire, but thee BBC aren't defending this, they are saying it was out of order. Not that it will be on the BBC news or anything. Perhaps it will be discussed on some political shows like Victoria Derbyshire.

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #182 on: November 20, 2019, 08:00:08 PM »
What is the point of even putting forward a possibility that isn't even possible though? It is letting them off the hook by even mentioning that option.

To be fair, they could have been brainwashed by shape-shifting aliens - but that's pretty much bollocks

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #183 on: November 20, 2019, 08:07:47 PM »
Hell of a lot of that, even on here. Excusing criminal or immoral behaviour like it’s some question of semantics. Down with this liberalism. Its why evil persists

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #184 on: November 20, 2019, 08:17:29 PM »
Hell of a lot of that, even on here. Excusing criminal or immoral behaviour like it’s some question of semantics. Down with this liberalism. Its why evil persists

That sounds awfully right wing

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #185 on: November 20, 2019, 08:27:17 PM »
BURN THE WITCH

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #186 on: November 20, 2019, 08:30:14 PM »
Blodwyn doesn't have a right-wing bone in his body. He now runs a nightclub in Thanet, called 'Thatchers'.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #187 on: November 20, 2019, 08:32:00 PM »
That sounds awfully right wing

“Awfully”?

Its so right wing its left wing.


Didnt realise wanting criminals punished was now right wing

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #188 on: November 20, 2019, 08:38:43 PM »
What is the point of even putting forward a possibility that isn't even possible though? It is letting them off the hook by even mentioning that option.

To show they reached a considered opinion by trying to see the best excuse... but then firmly stating they reject that, and considered the intent was to deceive.

Of course I think the BBC is biased and needs to be pressured to change, but the example given was out of context and I provided the full context, which should be of interest unless one would rather have their views confirmed at the expense of fuller information.

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #189 on: November 20, 2019, 09:24:32 PM »
Channel 4 News reporter Ciaran Jenkins showed incredible restraint earlier when interviewing Michael Gove on the underhand Twitter stunt.  When shown the tweets on Jenkins’ phone, Gove refused to look at them and inferred that the reporter might’ve tampered with the content.  If I’d been Jenkins, I don’t think I could’ve restrained myself from repeatedly punching Gove’s smug wee Pob-like face.

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #190 on: November 20, 2019, 10:36:11 PM »
I disagree that there there is any way of looking at it as satire, but thee BBC aren't defending this, they are saying it was out of order.

Apart from Kuenssberg, who described it as "a really daft row to pick."

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #191 on: November 20, 2019, 10:40:25 PM »
And I'd say she was ''a really daft cow to pick''  (as your top political reporter, BBC)

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #192 on: November 20, 2019, 10:42:38 PM »
Didnt realise wanting criminals punished was now right wing

The cotton wool brigade would send them all on a safari or something.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #193 on: November 21, 2019, 08:49:27 AM »
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The claim: Boris Johnson unexpectedly unveiled the Conservatives' plan to raise the threshold at which people start paying National Insurance contributions. He said: "If we're lucky enough to be elected, so the first Budget we will go up to the £9,500 threshold and that will, as I say, put £500 into the pockets of everybody."

Reality Check verdict: That's not the correct figure. The Conservatives' own press release says the benefit from raising the threshold to £9,500 in 2020-21 would be £100 per year. The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) says it would be £85 per year...

Or did Johnson use the wrong figure deliberately to get people talking about the proposed NI cut, without mentioning the effect it could have on people's benefits and pensions.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #194 on: November 21, 2019, 11:51:32 AM »
The cotton wool brigade would send them all on a safari or something.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #195 on: November 21, 2019, 12:37:16 PM »
Here's a fun one! @Conservatives releasing footage of Jess Phillips with doctored chyrons to give the impression she was talking about the Labour manifesto.

https://twitter.com/adamkeyworth/status/1197475311761461250

Can't wait to hear how "It's satire, mate"

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #196 on: November 21, 2019, 02:10:07 PM »
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The Conservatives have set up a fake website purporting to contain Labour’s manifesto, in a bid to trick voters looking for the document.

The governing party paid Google to promote its website, labourmanifesto.co.uk, to the top of its search results for people searching for the opposition plan.

The move is the latest underhand tactic employed by the Tories, who were earlier this week accused of running an authoritarian-style disinformation campaign to confuse voters about opposition plans...

Other than literally being called “labourmanifesto.co.uk” the new website features a picture of Jeremy Corbyn and the top and a headline “labour’s 2019 manifesto”...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-fake-labour-manifesto-website-fact-check-general-election-a9212076.html

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #197 on: November 21, 2019, 02:30:17 PM »
Channel 4 News reporter Ciaran Jenkins showed incredible restraint earlier when interviewing Michael Gove on the underhand Twitter stunt.  When shown the tweets on Jenkins’ phone, Gove refused to look at them and inferred that the reporter might’ve tampered with the content.  If I’d been Jenkins, I don’t think I could’ve restrained myself from repeatedly punching Gove’s smug wee Pob-like face.


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Michael Gove interview on truth, lies and Brexit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO2zT9-B2X4

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #198 on: November 21, 2019, 02:51:01 PM »
When does this shit get criminalised? Fucking desperados

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #199 on: November 21, 2019, 02:57:17 PM »
yeah what the fuck is with this wile e coyote dick dastardly bullshit? fucking twats.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #200 on: November 21, 2019, 02:59:31 PM »
I think these daily doses of lies could backfire for the cunts. People actually tend to care a lot about fair play.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #201 on: November 21, 2019, 03:00:03 PM »
In the great vacuum of tory and lib dem policy, this is what breeds

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #202 on: November 21, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
"Ooooh nonononoo!"

Gove is just playing a fucking clown these days.

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #203 on: November 21, 2019, 03:09:57 PM »
I think these daily doses of lies could backfire for the cunts. People actually tend to care a lot about fair play.

Only the most politically engaged will hear about them though. The Beeb will just laugh it off, if they even reported on it.

Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #204 on: November 21, 2019, 06:09:54 PM »
Only the most politically engaged will hear about them though. The Beeb will just laugh it off, if they even reported on it.
i think some journos are getting a bit pissed off with it tho

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #205 on: December 01, 2019, 11:04:29 AM »
Boirs Johnson lies about the Queen's Speech: https://twitter.com/peterkyle/status/1201078493481709568


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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #206 on: December 03, 2019, 04:40:59 PM »
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=834727076984704&id=736307636826649

Needs Wee Jamie shouting "Oh just answer the question you fat fuck"

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #207 on: December 07, 2019, 01:17:14 PM »
Kinder, gentler...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-candidate-general-election-disabled-people-money-sally-ann-hart-a9235281.html?amp
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A Conservative candidate has told voters that disabled people and those with learning disabilities should be paid less because some “don’t understand money”.

Seems perfectly reasonable. You loony lefties will be complaining about forced sterilisation next!

Fuck me! And the worst part is, you know most their voters wouldn't give a shit. So long as their taxes don't go up.

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #208 on: December 07, 2019, 03:34:04 PM »
Tories and tory voters are cunts what else is there to say

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Re: The Tory Book of Lies
« Reply #209 on: December 07, 2019, 03:37:04 PM »
Lower than vermin.