Lib Dems - the thread

[NoSleep]

That'll be no coalition, then.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/01/odds-against-remain-outsiders-still-win-voters-prevail-brexit

Another article by someone wilfully pretending the Lib Dems earnestly care about stopping Brexit rather than just being seen to stop it.

Deep down these cunts want Brexit to be a disaster so more moderate Tory voters flock to them and meanwhile point and jab Labour as commies so their right wing defects. It is all about regrowing their political force.

Anyone who hasn't realised that yet is fucking deluded.

[olliebean]

I was wondering what the ex-Labour MPs who ended up in the Lib-Dems would do if called upon to go into coalition with the Tories, and looked up to see how many of them there are. It surprised me to find out there are only 3. In contrast, they have 5 ex-Tories.

Anyway, do we think Luciana Berger, Chuka Umunna and Angela Smith would be up for coalescing with a Boris Johnson government? Or do they still have some of their political principles left?

[imitationleather]

Luciana Berger, Chuka Umunna and Angela Smith

These three would cosy up to the Tories without any shadow of the doubt.

[jobotic]

Anyway, do we think Luciana Berger, Chuka Umunna and Angela Smith would be up for coalescing with a Boris Johnson government? Or do they still have some of their political principles left?

Without a moment's hesitation. It's what they're fighting for.

[pancreas]

Labour would say: confidence and supply until second ref or back to the polls.

The LDs would be obliterated if they said no.

[NoSleep]

The LDs would be obliterated if they said no.

They are that stupid.

[greencalx]

There's a lot of twatnoise coming from LDs campaigning hard in seats where they came third last time, at the same time as asking the question 'Why won't Labour stand aside in seats they can't win?'. It's clearly deliberate - they don't care about neutralising Johnson, they just want to show that they've weakened Labour and Corbyn has to go.

[imitationleather]

Lib Dems will apparently agree to Labour pact provided Ken Clarke is installed as party leader.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Liberal Democrats facing competition from Liberal Party candidates in Cornwall: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/11/ex-ukip-members-are-standing-liberal-party-candidates-lib-dem-target

[jobotic]

Liberal Democrats facing competition from Liberal Party candidates in Cornwall: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2019/11/ex-ukip-members-are-standing-liberal-party-candidates-lib-dem-target

So that's where Biggy has been, Cornwall

When asked whether he would consider changing his party's name, Radford responded:

"Why don't you ask the Liberal Democrats to change their name to the remain-remoan alliance, we-know-better-for-the-peasants, we-don't-believe-in-democracy party?"

[Fambo Number Mive]

It's frustrating how most of the media is ignoring the Liberal Democrats OpenDemocracy story.

[Twit 2]

A Lib Dem with principles?

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/norwich-north-general-election-candidates-1-6404694

[Fambo Number Mive]

Hugh Lanham should do some campaigning with Labour if he wants to help, and write to the local paper telling people to vote Labour.

[peanutbutter]

I can understand Berger running in Golders Green, the antisemitism stuff  in the media over the past few years was almost certainly gonna kill Labour and Berger was the perfect candidate for the Lib Dems to run there... but whats the defence for Chuka running in Westminister? I assume that one's a lock for the conservatives now. Surely if they were ever going to want to even look like they wanted to entertain a pact that would be one of the first seats they'd've been expected to step down from?

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

See explanations provided upthread

[gib]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/01/odds-against-remain-outsiders-still-win-voters-prevail-brexit

Another article by someone wilfully pretending the Lib Dems earnestly care about stopping Brexit rather than just being seen to stop it.

Deep down these cunts want Brexit to be a disaster so more moderate Tory voters flock to them and meanwhile point and jab Labour as commies so their right wing defects. It is all about regrowing their political force.

Anyone who hasn't realised that yet is fucking deluded.

They really are just the other side of the Brexit Party coin. Farage would have nothing to talk about if we actually left the EU.

[idunnosomename]

he's a bald bollock with delusions of grandeur

[peanutbutter]

See explanations provided upthread

Sorry, I searched for posts mentioning "Chuka" and "Umunna", I forgot to search for "cunt"

[Dr Rock]

I can understand Berger running in Golders Green, the antisemitism stuff  in the media over the past few years was almost certainly gonna kill Labour

There was just as much antisemitism smearing around Labour in 2017, and it was a Tory hold at 24,599, with Labour on 22,942 and the Liberal Democrats 3,463.

Latest projections show the Tories will easily hold it, as Labour and the LibDems split the opposition.

Might have something to do with the constituency being Finchley Road AND Golders Green, and though it has one of the highest Jewsish populations, that's still only around 10% of the electorate.

[peanutbutter]

There was just as much antisemitism smearing around Labour in 2017, and it was a Tory hold at 24,599, with Labour on 22,942 and the Liberal Democrats 3,463.

Latest projections show the Tories will easily hold it, as Labour and the LibDems split the opposition.

oh fuck, I forgot it was that close last time... Forget what I said so.

[olliebean]

There was just as much antisemitism smearing around Labour in 2017, and it was a Tory hold at 24,599, with Labour on 22,942 and the Liberal Democrats 3,463.

Latest projections show the Tories will easily hold it, as Labour and the LibDems split the opposition.

Might have something to do with the constituency being Finchley Road AND Golders Green, and though it has one of the highest Jewsish populations, that's still only around 10% of the electorate.

Yep, it's probably the Tories would have won anyway but Berger was never going to take enough votes off Labour to win so it's a bit pointless her standing here. If the LDs had stood down there may have been a chance Labour could have taken it. In many places, the LDs seem to be more about increasing their vote share (and scuppering Labour) than actually winning seats; I wonder if a new push for PR might be on the cards.

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Anyway if they are a golfer's green they should fess up and call it that, rather than sticking with a typo just because it sounds posher.

[idunnosomename]

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/rspca-now-kill-squirrels-deer-3599344

[BlodwynPig]

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/rspca-now-kill-squirrels-deer-3599344

NO NATIVE SPECIES LEFT YOU CRETINS

muntjac deer are accused of causing road accidents and damage to crops.

gotta think of the CLIMATE CHANGE EXACERBATERS ....POOR CLIMATE CHANGE EXACERBATERS

[greencalx]

Despite strong competition, the most idiotic tweet of the day is

I hear Jo Swinson is considering resigning BEFORE THE ELECTION after what senior Lib Dem sources are saying has been 'a worse campaign than Theresa May's in 2017'

One senior source said: 'with this government and opposition we should be getting over a hundred seats'

(Yes he really is called Max Gapesj

Would what that achieve at this stage? And more to the point, did they think 100 seats were ever a possibility? Have they no knowledge or understanding of our election system?

Will the centre ever realise that they have to offer something other than just not being May/Johnson or Corbyn?

[Ferris]

How the fuck can anyone be called "Max Gapes"?!

Chris Morris would reject a name that ludicrous out of hand.

[idunnosomename]

i thought that was a shitposting account

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Looks very much like one.

[king_tubby]

Certainly is. And you fell for it like the fascists you are.