Author Topic: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?  (Read 9155 times)

neveragain

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2020, 10:17:11 PM »
Sounds like someone describing a DJ set (possibly in a Blue Jam sketch).

Edit: This works on a new page, doesn't it?!

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2020, 11:28:03 PM »
If it's good enough for James Herriot...

Mobius

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2020, 01:18:10 AM »
Wasn't Grace Dent the woman who used to review Eastenders and Corrie on Screenwipe

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2020, 06:28:22 AM »
Rayner's all right but I wish he'd stop doing this:



You use these aren't rejected descriptions from Jess Philip's leadership run PR?

king_tubby

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2020, 09:08:55 AM »
Wasn't Grace Dent the woman who used to review Eastenders and Corrie on Screenwipe

Yes. A cultural titan.

buttgammon

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #65 on: March 20, 2020, 09:43:41 AM »
She also had a soap column in The Guardian called 'World of Lather', so really qualified to be a food critic.

Cardenio I

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2020, 01:11:40 PM »
Rayner's all right but I wish he'd stop doing this:



Florid, purple-prosing football writer Barney Ronay is also a big fan of this construction. Once seen cannot be unseen.

king_tubby

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2020, 02:11:07 PM »
I hate Barney Ronay more than I hate HITLER.

kngen

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2020, 02:33:13 PM »


Also... I know 'how to write' guides are bunk, but "...I gasped"? No: you 'said', please.


Suggests it's not been subbed properly, or at all. It's one of the first things you're told to look out for.

Quote from: Graun Style guide
said normally preferable to added, commented, declared, pointed out, ejaculated, etc; you can avoid too many “saids”, whether quoting someone or in reported speech, quite easily.”

A favourite of mine that came across my desk was 'giggled through a mouthful of Pringles'. Unless the quote was actually, "hufhurhu*skronch*mmffherher*crunch" (it wasn't), I would argue that it really isn't accurate reported speech.

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2020, 02:38:22 PM »
Bradshaw on The Lighthouse: "saltier than an underwater sodium chloride factory".

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2020, 02:53:29 PM »
Bradshaw on The Lighthouse: "saltier than an underwater sodium chloride factory".

Christ, I hoped you were joking, but no. And the following sentence: 'The script is barnacled with resemblances to Coleridge, Shakespeare, Melville'

'Barnacled with resemblances'? For fuck's sake.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2020, 03:18:21 PM by kngen »

Cardenio I

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2020, 03:36:35 PM »
Pattinson delivers a performance straight out of Captain Pugwash and the cinematography is pure Riefenstahl by way of some sort of old fish.

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2020, 04:28:05 PM »
Bradshaw on The Lighthouse: "saltier than an underwater sodium chloride factory".

This is a certain writing trick I really resent, though some people love it. It used to be a staple of Charlie Brooker. You just think of some elaborate similar thing. "About as much as stapling your nuts to a dolphin and pushing it down a hill"

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2020, 05:13:46 PM »
Didn't they all just basically nick it from Blackadder?

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2020, 06:33:19 PM »

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2020, 06:34:22 PM »
Did James Herriot do that then? I don't remember, I haven't read him since I were a kid.

gilbertharding

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2020, 08:09:11 PM »
Second person to mention it.

Certainly all I really remember about James Herriot was him soaping himself up before plunging his entire arm up a cow... on prime time Sunday evening TV.

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2020, 08:25:36 PM »
Second person to mention it.

Certainly all I really remember about James Herriot was him soaping himself up before plunging his entire arm up a cow... on prime time Sunday evening TV.

Doh! Didn't see the earlier mention. Balls.

Lisa Jesusandmarychain

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2020, 06:11:27 AM »
Did James Herriot do that then? I don't remember, I haven't read him since I were a kid.

Do you remember.any of the titles of them books you read?

Lisa Jesusandmarychain

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2020, 06:29:19 AM »


Certainly all I really remember about James Herriot was him soaping himself up before plunging his entire arm up a cow...

How *is* your mum?

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2020, 10:03:34 AM »
Do you remember.any of the titles of them books you read?

I see.

What a boring joke!!!!!!

Lisa Jesusandmarychain

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2020, 10:34:33 AM »
I see.

What a boring joke!!!!!!

I thought it was quite witty,meself
(The wopo feller's post,not mine,orbviously.)

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2020, 11:32:10 AM »
Yes I suppose it is quite good really.

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2020, 11:45:42 AM »
I wonder what Rayner thought of Derek Nimmo.

gilbertharding

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2020, 01:46:56 PM »

Lisa Jesusandmarychain

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2020, 04:10:11 PM »
I'm sorry.
* that clip from a Tex Avery  cartoon wherein the character's done something really bad, and they imagine themselves as a giant heel , with the word ' heel" over them.*
( " Heel" is American 50s cartoon slang for " crass, insensitive cunt")

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #86 on: March 26, 2020, 09:23:25 AM »
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There’s a character who objects to the isolation in which another character appears to be locking down his family and demands to know if this man considers her a “virus” who has to be kept well away. In her own domain, in fact.

How does he write prose this stilted? HOW?

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Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #87 on: March 26, 2020, 01:12:36 PM »
I missed this first time round, but, sir, I salute your indefatigabilty.

And I missed your reply! Thanks! It was, in fact, my fatigability and the knowledge that I would have to endure at least one phone call every issue bickering with her over placements of semi-colons and application of style guide (she was a section editor who wrote quite a bit of her own stuff) that made me pull the trigger. The sad thing is, outside of work she was quite charming and personable.

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There are quite a stunning amount of Graun critics - especially in the more niche subjects - who tick none of those boxes, but - despite repeated interventions from all quarters - still get work because commissioning editors are some of the laziest cunts on earth.

Sorry, I forgot to add 4: lazy cunt editors who won't have to deal with the consequences of their shit choices.

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #88 on: March 26, 2020, 01:22:00 PM »
The Guardian style guide is very clear that it should be "the Guardian" mid-sentence, not "The Guardian", a decision I support. But this banner has been on the site for months:



I fear something terrible may have happened.

Re: Pete Bradshaw - WHAT IS THERE TO BE DONE?
« Reply #89 on: March 26, 2020, 03:05:08 PM »
I found out recently the explanation for Adrian Chiles's Guardian column, perhaps the worst piece of journalism ever, like something your dad would write in an email: he's dating a senior member of the paper's editorial staff. It's a massive hive of nepotism and jobs-for-sex.

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