The Walking Dead: World Beyond

[Malcy]

The second spin-off finally has a title. New trailer as well.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dOf0wdg05hc

I'm not sure there is really much of a want for this is there? Ratings have been really poor on the main show and Fear had a fairly up and down run recently.

This has more of the 3 ring symbol people that took Rick & appeared in Fear this year.

[Head Gardener]

well if Rick (married to Jethro Tull's Ian Andersons daughter)* turns up again, I'm in - I'm still hanging in with the current series (like a twat)

*irrelevant fact

[Kryton]

It'll start off good, hit a road-block and then just introduce some shitty bad guys and kill off the best cast like it always fucking does and then go shit (I reckon).

[Malcy]

Starts on April 12th after the finale of TWD. Released on Amazon Prime in the UK.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

I couldn't even be bothered hanging on for the end of the Saviors plotline on the main show, nor even to make a start on Fear. Not that I consider myself to be the sole barometer of pop culture, but was anyone clamouring for another spinoff at this point?

Fun/horrifying fact: The main show is ten (TEN!!!!) years old. Game of Thrones managed to have a beginning, middle and crappy end in less time, while TWD has remained stuck in a creative rut.

[Malcy]

I couldn't even be bothered hanging on for the end of the Saviors plotline on the main show, nor even to make a start on Fear. Not that I consider myself to be the sole barometer of pop culture, but was anyone clamouring for another spinoff at this point?

Fun/horrifying fact: The main show is ten (TEN!!!!) years old. Game of Thrones managed to have a beginning, middle and crappy end in less time, while TWD has remained stuck in a creative rut.

The viewers for the main show have been even lower than the pilot I think and been fairly rubbish for a few years now. I gave up and just stuck with Fear.

They're planning more than just this new series. The Rick films are coming and also one off's about old dead characters seem to be happening too.

It seems mad that they would be planning on making so much when there's a definite reduced interest in the franchise.

[Pinckle Wicker]

One for a TV 'This will be shit I reckon' thread. They are really getting further out of touch with what's left of the audience they once had. Will watch it though! Time to move on to another apocalyptic existential threat. A new version reboot, reboot of V?

[purlieu]

I still enjoy the main series, although I'm really hoping it does come to an end around the same point as the comics, despite producers saying they're confident they can continue it indefinitely. Now the torture porn of the Saviours plot has gone there's some good character stuff that keeps me hooked.

Can't be fucked with Fear, ludicrous as it is. The Rick film will do ok because of his prominence in the show's popular era, but I really don't understand why they're continuing making more spinoffs. Can't be much money in it, surely?

[samadriel]

I could not give less of a shit about TWD, but the name of this one interested me slightly; I read an article once about how an "apocalypse" isn't the likely result of a zombie outbreak that pop culture assumes it is, and the thought of civilisation pulling itself together into something new and stable post-collapse is a lot more interesting to me than more rejects wandering around in the forest, running into an endless procession of bullies. Unfortunately, that's what the trailer teases for you, the salivating dogs that you are!

[Puce Moment]

[Famous Mortimer]

I could not give less of a shit about TWD, but the name of this one interested me slightly; I read an article once about how an "apocalypse" isn't the likely result of a zombie outbreak that pop culture assumes it is, and the thought of civilisation pulling itself together into something new and stable post-collapse is a lot more interesting to me than more rejects wandering around in the forest, running into an endless procession of bullies. Unfortunately, that's what the trailer teases for you, the salivating dogs that you are!

I'd love to know what research the authors of that article did to come to that conclusion.

Ultimately, it's a soap opera now, and has been for years. Why can't TV shows just end?

[Malcy]

I'd love to know what research the authors of that article did to come to that conclusion.

Ultimately, it's a soap opera now, and has been for years. Why can't TV shows just end?

This spin-off is a limited 2 series and done job. TWD will still be on even if there was a real zombie apocalypse going on I reckon.

[samadriel]

I'd love to know what research the authors of that article did to come to that conclusion.

After stuff like the Zombie Survival Guide came out and was a hit, this kind of thing was rife. They looked at epidemiology, a bit of looking at FEMA plans for extreme disease outbreaks, plus the side-effects of a dead body behaving like a living one (time and decay will pretty quickly provide "headshots" of their own, and you'll get a lot of gaseous, spontaneously bursting zombies in summer too!) The article was working by Romero's rules, ie, brains have to be in adequate condition, zombies are actually dead rather than "the infected", the outbreak spreads from patient zero to zombie to zombie (if corpses are spontaneously coming out of the ground like magic to eat us as well as the newly-killed rising, that swells their ranks a lot, and then maybe we'd be a bit fucked? Even then, fence off the cemeteries and call for some napalm). The article kind of spoiled a lot of zombie media for me (cue Simpsons joke), but it got me thinking that a zombie outbreak timeline could be more Shaun of the Dead than Dawn of the Dead (which isn't to say you couldn't go wild with a non-end-times zombie scenario. Fuck having society end, how about we see it transform?). Sorry for not giving a link, I have no idea where I read the thing.

[Famous Mortimer]

After stuff like the Zombie Survival Guide came out and was a hit, this kind of thing was rife. They looked at epidemiology, a bit of looking at FEMA plans for extreme disease outbreaks, plus the side-effects of a dead body behaving like a living one (time and decay will pretty quickly provide "headshots" of their own, and you'll get a lot of gaseous, spontaneously bursting zombies in summer too!) The article was working by Romero's rules, ie, brains have to be in adequate condition, zombies are actually dead rather than "the infected", the outbreak spreads from patient zero to zombie to zombie (if corpses are spontaneously coming out of the ground like magic to eat us as well as the newly-killed rising, that swells their ranks a lot, and then maybe we'd be a bit fucked? Even then, fence off the cemeteries and call for some napalm). The article kind of spoiled a lot of zombie media for me (cue Simpsons joke), but it got me thinking that a zombie outbreak timeline could be more Shaun of the Dead than Dawn of the Dead (which isn't to say you couldn't go wild with a non-end-times zombie scenario. Fuck having society end, how about we see it transform?). Sorry for not giving a link, I have no idea where I read the thing.

Much as I enjoyed the Zombie Survival Guide and all that, they're all a bit house of cards - "well, if we assume zombies behave THIS way" sort of thing. It's like arguing how magic works, or what superheroes would be like in the real world.

Sorry, I'm getting off the point. I think the idea of a society pulling itself together, post some unimaginably vast disaster, does have a lot of story potential. Much more than a bunch of people running around the woods in Georgia, anyway. Made me think about how much I love that early Peter Greenaway film "The Falls" (although it's not really about this).

The Walking Dead began to remind me of a book, one with a really good beginning, but then followed by 20,000 pages of not much, the occasional interesting page, and then either no ending at all or one written in the car as the manuscript was on its way to the publishers. But my problem with it is my problem with almost all modern TV of a similar sort. Maybe it's because I was brought up in the era of episodic genre TV, like Star Trek. Or maybe it's because I don't have the time to keep up with every show that sounds interesting any more, so end up watching none of them. Again, not about The Walking Dead. I'll shut up.

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

The title implied that it would be set in other countries of the world, but no it's "world" in the American sense of the word, so Nebraska then.

They could have had zombies milling around Big Ben. Zombies in red phone boxes. Zombie chimney sweeps.

[Malcy]

The first episode of this has finally been released. Up on Amazon Prime every Friday. Was supposed to air in April but was delayed. I think mostly due to possibly being connected to events in the main shows series finale but I don't watch it so don't know.

[Malcy]

Thought this was good. I hope it doesn't revert to run of the mill fields and woods over and over. Nice set up for a few different things that I hope have good resolutions.

Spoiler alert

I assumed the 3 rings symbol that had been seen in both TWD & Fear was one organisation but it seems it's this Civic Republic, The Commonwealth(?) and something else.

I wonder if any Walking Dead series they make will ever have a group who aren't bastards.

Couple of things that didn't really make sense though. Did Elizabeth and her army just wipe out almost 10,000 people? Surely a massive amount of them would manage to hide or run away. Still not sure if she's a real baddie or going to be a help.

The one looking for his Triceratops horn (now possibly the most inventive and unique weapon in the WD Universe!) had been out looking for it for an unknown amount of time yet the other guy just happens to trip over it and find it?

Nice twist with it being one of the sisters who killed his pregnant mum though. Bet that's going to cause some shit.

[close]

Interested to see where they go with it all.

[kidsick5000]

This spin-off is a limited 2 series and done job. TWD will still be on even if there was a real zombie apocalypse going on I reckon.

Have they left the farm yet?

[C_Larence]

Sorry for not giving a link, I have no idea where I read the thing.

https://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

Sounds like this

[samadriel]

Haha, that's the one.

...I hate zombies, and everything about them!

[BritishHobo]

Mira Grant's Newflesh novel trilogy (along with short stories and I think one prequel novel) are good reads for what you were talking about. Set in the world after the zombie 'apocalypse' has been averted. Zombies are still around, but they've been subdued, and (American) society has adapted with covid-like restrictions to stop the plague spreading. It's less about the zombies and more about a team of journalists following a Presidential campaign. Pisses The Walking Dead, with its boring mundane narrowed vision, right up the wall.

[samadriel]

Sounds great, thanks for the heads-up, I'll definitely give that a read.

[surreal]

Mira Grant's Newflesh novel trilogy (along with short stories and I think one prequel novel) are good reads for what you were talking about.

Definitely recommend these books too, very entertaining

[Bazooka]

Thought this was good. I hope it doesn't revert to run of the mill fields and woods over and over. Nice set up for a few different things that I hope have good resolutions.

Spoiler alert

I assumed the 3 rings symbol that had been seen in both TWD & Fear was one organisation but it seems it's this Civic Republic, The Commonwealth(?) and something else.

I wonder if any Walking Dead series they make will ever have a group who aren't bastards.

Couple of things that didn't really make sense though. Did Elizabeth and her army just wipe out almost 10,000 people? Surely a massive amount of them would manage to hide or run away. Still not sure if she's a real baddie or going to be a help.

The one looking for his Triceratops horn (now possibly the most inventive and unique weapon in the WD Universe!) had been out looking for it for an unknown amount of time yet the other guy just happens to trip over it and find it?

Nice twist with it being one of the sisters who killed his pregnant mum though. Bet that's going to cause some shit.

[close]

Interested to see where they go with it all.

Sorry, but I thought this was trash, was the Walking Dead for E4,right down to the music.  The Big Bad republic, it's all so forced and obvious, it needs to be grittier for it to be anything other than The Tweening Dead, but I guess that's what they are going for.  Maybe the big lad can go apeshit with his giant novelty spanner.

Yes I will watch the next one to see if the Triceratops horn is used.

[Clownbaby]

There's been talk of a Daryl and Carol spin-off as well. As much as I fancy Norman Reedus I don't think I can get across in mere words how disinterested I am in yet more TWD content

[Malcy]

Slow going on this show, hoping it picks up a bit soon. Can't decide whether the English woman is a genuine baddie or just going with the flow with a bigger plan ahead. I'd rather be following that story than the kids.

[kidsick5000]

So incredibly boring I expect the next season to be set on a farm.

[Malcy]

So incredibly boring I expect the next season to be set on a farm.

Wouldn't put it past them! It's just going to be them going back to find everyone dead then setting off again to go to where they were going only to get there in the finale and have a cliffhanger.

I think all 3 shows are crossing over at some point but don't know in which show it will happen.

[Gulftastic]

Like it's parent show, it relies on people being almost unbelievably stupid to drive the plot forward.

It's scheduled to run for only two seasons. You would think that means it might move at a decent pace. Nah.

[Malcy]

Like it's parent show, it relies on people being almost unbelievably stupid to drive the plot forward.

It's scheduled to run for only two seasons. You would think that means it might move at a decent pace. Nah.

That's what they said but i saw an interview with someone involved who said it's possible it could go on longer.