General Erection Thread Two: Let's Get Johnson Out (Of Number 10)

[imitationleather]

I've never read The Spectator but from these snippets it does sound like it is student union-level debate about stuff. Endless reasons why the poor and minorities are to blame. A mag for posh lads who didn't bother to stay curious about stuff beyond their undergraduate days.

[BlodwynPig]

How's mr johnson doing on andrew?

[imitationleather]

Inspiring. The country is finally healed.

[DrGreggles]

How's mr johnson doing on andrew?

He interrupted every question and tried to talk about something else, then Marr tried to ask the question again and it just became two people talking over each other. Repeatedly.

I mean, I didn't actually watch it, but it's an educated guess.

[Replies From View]

Honestly though I think Oxbridge cynicism is being exposed for what it always was, something that was actually quiet cosy with the establishment.

It's been very interesting these last few years seeing centrism flushed out into the open.

[Bobloblawslawbomb]

He interrupted every question and tried to talk about something else, then Marr tried to ask the question again and it just became two people talking over each other. Repeatedly.

I mean, I didn't actually watch it, but it's an educated guess.

That is literally exactly what happened

[Jasha]

He interrupted every question and tried to talk about something else, then Marr tried to ask the question again and it just became two people talking over each other. Repeatedly.

I mean, I didn't actually watch it, but it's an educated guess.

Pretty much, nothing is Johnson's responsibility because "I've only been prime minister for 5 minutes".

[greencalx]

#chuntering is trending

[Fambo Number Mive]

Lots of Tories on Twitter getting angry for Marr for daring to actually question the Prime Minister.

#Marr: Where's your promised plan on social care?

Boris Johnson: "I accept that the full plan needs to be developed"

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1201085462766424064

[greencalx]

Made a cock-up in my earlier post about the LDs - they're polling double their 2017 share at the moment. So there is room to go down, and by rights it should if people exercise brains before voting.

[gib]

[Sorry for length, felt the need for a bit of mid-campaign catharsis]

Don't apologise, your posts in these threads always make for good reading.

[Johnny Yesno]

Lots of Tories on Twitter getting angry for Marr for daring to actually question the Prime Minister.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1201085462766424064

Some good links in there, though.

https://twitter.com/C4Dispatches/status/1200927491134820353

"We try not to eat a lot in one day, even though most of us are really hungry." Almost 1 in 3 children in the UK are now growing up poor, like Cameron and his two sisters whose family rely on a food bank to help fill the fridge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49131685

More than £3.5m intended to alleviate child poverty and homelessness is at risk of being wasted because the government has failed to spend it, says a House of Lords committee.

Peers have written to the Home Office saying it is "extraordinary" that the EU funding has not been used.

They warn that some of the cash has already been forfeited and are worried about the rest being handed back.

The government said there had been "barriers" over spending the money.

But peers have written to complain that after almost six years, the government has failed to deliver spending aimed at addressing "the worst forms of poverty".

About £580,000 of unspent cash has so far been taken back - and a further similar amount is at risk of being deducted at the end of the year.

[Johnny Yesno]

what a piece of shit

https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1199237644435234816

One of the people defending him reckons 'appears to be' was Iannucci's point. I'd like to think that's true, but it doesn't really fit with his previous criticisms.

[Replies From View]

"We try not to eat a lot in one day, even though most of us are really hungry." Almost 1 in 3 children in the UK are now growing up poor, like Cameron and his two sisters whose family rely on a food bank to help fill the fridge.

Not David Cameron though :(

[peanutbutter]

One of the people defending him reckons 'appears to be' was Iannucci's point. I'd like to think that's true, but it doesn't really fit with his previous criticisms.

Even still, that'd just be him alluding to the idea that it's totally disproportionate without taking any potential risk of saying it is.

Has he given any idea as to who he'd back for democrat party nomination over in the US?

[Johnny Yesno]

Even still, that'd just be him alluding to the idea that it's totally disproportionate without taking any potential risk of saying it is.

Yeah, it's hardly speaking truth to power, is it?

Has he given any idea as to who he'd back for democrat party nomination over in the US?

I've not heard. It would be a decent indicator.

[peanutbutter]

I'd wonder if Iannucci's shittiness in recent years is more about the new levels his career has taken internationally too. Might be harder to get funding for David Copperfield if you've got a backbone.

[Replies From View]

I'd love to see him attempting to debate with Ken Loach.  He'd be incredibly out of his depth and resort to calling Ken Loach an antisemite I suspect.


The centrists have tied themselves up in knots over this narrative and they really need to be put on a platform that allows their own hubris and inability to face the truth to reach its natural conclusion - in other words just labelling everyone they disagree with as antisemitic.  As it is they're too able to bob back down under the surface before that happens.

[greenman]

It's been very interesting these last few years seeing centrism flushed out into the open.

Its easy to say these are yesterdays counter culture icons grown old and selfish but honestly I think its something that was always there, a lot of people standing shoulder to shoulder in the media who were actually quite different in their moral outlooks, especially in the mid 90's when alt comedy went fully mainstream.

That said I suspect a good deal of it is probably unconscious as well, the "there all as bad as each other" cynical outlooks that was pushed so hard for so long probably makes a really stark moral choice hard for many people to accept, they think there must be a catch somewhere so jump on smears too easily.

[Johnny Yesno]

That said I suspect a good deal of it is probably unconscious as well, the "there all as bad as each other" cynical outlooks that was pushed so hard for so long probably makes a really stark moral choice hard for many people to accept, they think there must be a catch somewhere so jump on smears too easily.

I think this is very plausible. There were so many levels of irony to negotiate that I don't think they were expecting anyone to smash through with simple honesty.

[jobotic]

Presumably Iannucci is richer now than he's ever been. Not saying that's a reason but it is.

[Replies From View]

'ard graft, self-made.  Owes nuttin to nobody that fella

[Fambo Number Mive]

BBC Reality Check has tweeted that Johnson lied about the Queen's speech. Why didn't Marr say anything at the time? Why isn't this a story on the BBC News site?

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/1201135464851345408

[Fambo Number Mive]

I've also come across a bloke on Youtube who is pumping out pro-Tory videos.

[greenman]

Presumably Iannucci is richer now than he's ever been. Not saying that's a reason but it is.

Its likely part of the reason but theres still an obvious difference between him and say Cogan who is likely considerably richer.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Something I don't understand is how to play 4D chess i.e. when is a gaffe done on purpose by the Tories to distract people from an even bigger gaffe.

For example, was this a 4D chess move to distract from something else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpcY6HsGmAM

[Replies From View]

Its likely part of the reason but theres still an obvious difference between him and say Cogan who is likely considerably richer.

Steeve Cogan

[greencalx]

Here we go, the 2017/19 comparator:



https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1201161147333980171?s=20

Both Con and Lab down by 2.1. If current trajectories continue (Tories flat, Lab up) we might end up back in the same place. Even better if there is a Tory fall.

[Dr Rock]

I really want the Labours to win obv, but if Johnson doesn't get a majority, there has to be a second referendum, and Remain will win and Brexit won't happen right? Then Labours can win next time.

[BlodwynPig]

Here we go, the 2017/19 comparator:



https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1201161147333980171?s=20

Both Con and Lab down by 2.1. If current trajectories continue (Tories flat, Lab up) we might end up back in the same place. Even better if there is a Tory fall.

No need to vote if we just use graphs