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The Trotters all standing in a row wearing shades while Livin La Vida Loca plays

Started by madhair60, December 06, 2019, 09:30:22 AM

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madhair60


Cuellar


Shaky

The moment Only Fools went all Red Dwarf VIII, as if the mere appearance of the characters was some sort of substitute for quality writing.

madhair60

I know it's well-worn but I just wish they'd never made those three wretched extra episodes.


madhair60


The more I think about the village of French Alberts, the less sense it makes. Beards aren't hereditary.

Custard

I've decided to fling the DVD of the last three out the window, so it ends where it should have ended

REVOLUTION

neveragain

That image makes me laugh more than any post--walking-into-the-sunset episodes.

purlieu

I've never even seen the last episode, although I saw the first two on broadcast. So utterly fucking pointless. It ends with them walking off into the sunset in 1996. That's the way it should be.

I mean the best ending was Who Wants to be a Millionaire? really. But Time on Our Hands works fine.


Should have ended with The Sky's The Limit. Del Boy vaporised in the impact, Rodney screaming as he burns to death in the rubble. Albert parachutes to safety before being crushed by falling debris.

Utter Shit

I've mentioned it so many times before but that ending makes me so angry. What are we supposed to think happened? Best case scenario is it's a near miss and Del is imprisoned for a billion years, worst case scenario as you say is they are all instantly killed.

Glebe

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on December 10, 2019, 11:14:14 AM
Should have ended with The Sky's The Limit. Del Boy vaporised in the impact, Rodney screaming as he burns to death in the rubble. Albert parachutes to safety before being crushed by falling debris.

"TURN IT OFF!"

purlieu

Quote from: Utter Shit on December 10, 2019, 11:17:24 AM
I've mentioned it so many times before but that ending makes me so angry. What are we supposed to think happened? Best case scenario is it's a near miss and Del is imprisoned for a billion years, worst case scenario as you say is they are all instantly killed.
Yeah, the show always lived in the slightly-heightened reality of Sitcom World, but that ending is just too much. It belongs in something like Father Ted or The Brittas Empire, not OFAH.

Phil_A

Quote from: Utter Shit on December 10, 2019, 10:57:11 AM
Imagine if it had ended with A Royal Flush.

That final scene is horrifying, especially in the audience-free version, because it really does look like Del is going to murder Rodney.

Quote from: purlieu on December 09, 2019, 05:44:02 PM
I've never even seen the last episode, although I saw the first two on broadcast. So utterly fucking pointless. It ends with them walking off into the sunset in 1996. That's the way it should be.

I mean the best ending was Who Wants to be a Millionaire? really. But Time on Our Hands works fine.
Likewise.  Genuinely can't recollect the Ricky Martin bit.  Falling through a bar is still funny mind.

George White

Quote from: madhair60 on December 06, 2019, 10:58:55 AM
I know it's well-worn but I just wish they'd never made those three wretched extra episodes.
I always think that the mistake Sullivan made was, two things.
1. He thought that the Trotters couldn't be rich and funny, hence the whole dodgy investments, but the thing is he also had them say, "this time next year, we'll be billionaires". That's what they should have done. They will always be tacky working-class sorts, just with money.
2. Wait till Damien is old enough to work as a viable member of the trio - shift the Will Hay/Moore Marriott/Graham Moffatt dynamic from Del-Grandad/Albert-Rodney to  Rodney-Del-Damien, rather than have him as a 12-year-old Ali G. Without the dynamic, there is no OFAH.

You have Rodney now be in charge, Del constantly advising, tagging along and pushing Damien, who's now on the dotcom scene.  The three in Europe. Del tries to buy a casino, he'll bring over Denzil, Boycie, Trig and rig games so they can use the money to redevelop Peckham into an upmarket suburb. Of course, they don't. And Del realises - Peckham doesn't need to change. He has to change.    Del, Raquel and Damien move to Spain, Del buys a plot of land including an old spaghetti western lot because he wants to be a filmproducer again, but of course he has to send Rodney in (keep Gwyneth Strong out of this), because Slater has arrived, now a vigilante hunting dodgy Brits on the Costa Del Crime. Del, Damien and Rodney are framed on tax dodging, and they have to team up with Slater's wronged men, including the Driscolls. Slater has this wealthy ally (Anthony Hopkins, a fan of the show wanted to be  in the show, but couldn't take the role of Driscoll, because of reshoots), who in a twist is actually Slater's first nick, having gone straight, but now helping him so he can then wrongfoot him and spirit him away.  At the end, Slater escapes in a helicopter, but inside are the Spanish police. The third special would be a proper finale. Albert dies, back in England. Del and Rodney have to part. Rodney doesn't want to lose. He has the money. He stays in England. Del, Raquel and Damien return to Spain.

What I would have done was have the trilogy be three films.

TheMonk

Quote from: George White on December 12, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I always think that the mistake Sullivan made was, two things.
1. He thought that the Trotters couldn't be rich and funny, hence the whole dodgy investments, but the thing is he also had them say, "this time next year, we'll be billionaires". That's what they should have done. They will always be tacky working-class sorts, just with money.
2. Wait till Damien is old enough to work as a viable member of the trio - shift the Will Hay/Moore Marriott/Graham Moffatt dynamic from Del-Grandad/Albert-Rodney to  Rodney-Del-Damien, rather than have him as a 12-year-old Ali G. Without the dynamic, there is no OFAH.

You have Rodney now be in charge, Del constantly advising, tagging along and pushing Damien, who's now on the dotcom scene.  The three in Europe. Del tries to buy a casino, he'll bring over Denzil, Boycie, Trig and rig games so they can use the money to redevelop Peckham into an upmarket suburb. Of course, they don't. And Del realises - Peckham doesn't need to change. He has to change.    Del, Raquel and Damien move to Spain, Del buys a plot of land including an old spaghetti western lot because he wants to be a filmproducer again, but of course he has to send Rodney in (keep Gwyneth Strong out of this), because Slater has arrived, now a vigilante hunting dodgy Brits on the Costa Del Crime. Del, Damien and Rodney are framed on tax dodging, and they have to team up with Slater's wronged men, including the Driscolls. Slater has this wealthy ally (Anthony Hopkins, a fan of the show wanted to be  in the show, but couldn't take the role of Driscoll, because of reshoots), who in a twist is actually Slater's first nick, having gone straight, but now helping him so he can then wrongfoot him and spirit him away.  At the end, Slater escapes in a helicopter, but inside are the Spanish police. The third special would be a proper finale. Albert dies, back in England. Del and Rodney have to part. Rodney doesn't want to lose. He has the money. He stays in England. Del, Raquel and Damien return to Spain.

What I would have done was have the trilogy be three films.
How would you have ended George And Mildred?

madhair60


Utter Shit

Quote from: George White on December 12, 2019, 09:48:43 AM
I always think that the mistake Sullivan made was, two things.
1. He thought that the Trotters couldn't be rich and funny, hence the whole dodgy investments, but the thing is he also had them say, "this time next year, we'll be billionaires". That's what they should have done. They will always be tacky working-class sorts, just with money.
2. Wait till Damien is old enough to work as a viable member of the trio - shift the Will Hay/Moore Marriott/Graham Moffatt dynamic from Del-Grandad/Albert-Rodney to  Rodney-Del-Damien, rather than have him as a 12-year-old Ali G. Without the dynamic, there is no OFAH.

You have Rodney now be in charge, Del constantly advising, tagging along and pushing Damien, who's now on the dotcom scene.  The three in Europe. Del tries to buy a casino, he'll bring over Denzil, Boycie, Trig and rig games so they can use the money to redevelop Peckham into an upmarket suburb. Of course, they don't. And Del realises - Peckham doesn't need to change. He has to change.    Del, Raquel and Damien move to Spain, Del buys a plot of land including an old spaghetti western lot because he wants to be a filmproducer again, but of course he has to send Rodney in (keep Gwyneth Strong out of this), because Slater has arrived, now a vigilante hunting dodgy Brits on the Costa Del Crime. Del, Damien and Rodney are framed on tax dodging, and they have to team up with Slater's wronged men, including the Driscolls. Slater has this wealthy ally (Anthony Hopkins, a fan of the show wanted to be  in the show, but couldn't take the role of Driscoll, because of reshoots), who in a twist is actually Slater's first nick, having gone straight, but now helping him so he can then wrongfoot him and spirit him away.  At the end, Slater escapes in a helicopter, but inside are the Spanish police. The third special would be a proper finale. Albert dies, back in England. Del and Rodney have to part. Rodney doesn't want to lose. He has the money. He stays in England. Del, Raquel and Damien return to Spain.

What I would have done was have the trilogy be three films.


You are completely insane, but that is brilliant. Funnily enough it looks like it was written by Del, in the same vein as There Is A Rhino Loose In The City and that mad one about Mel Gibson in a later episode.

I don't think the show could ever have worked with them being rich - it maybe could have sustained a full episode before dragging them back to the flat (rather than the five minute montage at the start of If They Could See Us Now) but the moment you take them out of that perfectly-designed world, you lose so much of the beauty of the show.

It really is a shame that it ended on such a whimper - the final scene was quite sweet I guess, but the endings of series 5, 6, 7 and Time On Our Hands are all so much more fitting.

Actually thinking about it, I think Fatal Extraction would have been an even bleaker ending than A Royal Flush. I love that episode so much, but it ends on such a desolate note.

Can you give us a run down of how you'd have done the series of Hot Rod that would have happened if David Jason hadn't gone back on his decision to leave after series 5?

Utter Shit

Oh also, I'm going to see John Challis at Komedia in Brighton next year, really looking forward to it. Him and Marlene have done an astonishing job of continuing to squeeze that gig for so long after the show finished.

George White


beanheadmcginty

My dad once saw Challis and Marlene out shopping together in Ikea as if they were married in real life.

imitationleather

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on December 12, 2019, 05:56:52 PM
My dad once saw Challis and Marlene out shopping together in Ikea as if they were married in real life.

They must have done it. At least once.


Custard

Can you imagine the amount of idiots they get bellowing at them in the street.

Every single day of their lives

imitationleather


Dusty Substance

Quote from: madhair60 on December 06, 2019, 10:58:55 AM
I know it's well-worn but I just wish they'd never made those three wretched extra episodes.

I've always argued that it should have ended with Del becoming a Dad and that touching speech he gives to his dead Mum.


Quote from: Shameless Custard on December 13, 2019, 08:35:51 AM
Can you imagine the amount of idiots they get bellowing at them in the street.

Every single day of their lives

I once read a post from someone who often saw Nick Lyndhurst out and about.  Funnily enough, they claimed he looked less than impressed when people shout 'oi, Rodders!  Plonkers,' rather than acknowledging with a hearty laugh and wave.  Who'd've Adam-an-Eved it?