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Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]

Started by jobotic, January 17, 2020, 04:34:18 PM

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TrenterPercenter

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on January 19, 2021, 11:38:44 AM
I've said this before but I'd be fascinated to know how and why the barely known actor Laurence Fox, who had no political profile at the time, got on Question Time.

I don't know it a complete mystery but something tells me it has something to with likes of Julia-Hartley-Brewer and Andrew Neil being regularly invited on to This Morning to discuss things.

Could it be an insidious plot to shape culture?

This is why regardless of whatever has gone on you have to get these Tories out of office asap; these are not the normal rules that governments uphold they have large control over the state media and are using outriders to give the impression of plurality.  They aren't so much fascists but just want the option open to them and definitely have a vision of where we are going.

Blumf

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on January 19, 2021, 05:31:19 PM
I don't know it a complete mystery but something tells me it has something to with likes of Julia-Hartley-Brewer and Andrew Neil being regularly invited on to This Morning to discuss things.

Could it be an insidious plot to shape culture?

This is why regardless of whatever has gone on you have to get these Tories out of office asap;

Because Hartley-Brewer and Andrew Neil never turned up on TV under the last Labour government? And for sure, Sir Starmer will reign in the excesses of the right-wing influence of British media.

Mobius

Anyone else keep singing the thread title to the tune of Hot Chip's Crap Kraft Dinner

JamesTC

I love the idea that Laurence Fox is some Machiavellian plan by wealthy right-wingers and they specifically made sure that he had a failed music career as part of it.

amputeeporn

Quote from: JamesTC on January 19, 2021, 11:00:37 PM
I love the idea that Laurence Fox is some Machiavellian plan by wealthy right-wingers and they specifically made sure that he had a failed music career as part of it.

Ha! Or the conspiracy's exposed and then Fox tries to convince people his music career was a part of it. 'Yeah, and for some reason they made me sing all these shit acoustic ballads on ITV daytime shows...'

Paul Calf

Quote from: JamesTC on January 19, 2021, 11:00:37 PM
I love the idea that Laurence Fox is some Machiavellian plan by wealthy right-wingers and they specifically made sure that he had a failed music career as part of it.

Why is it neccessary for that to be true in order to conclude that Laurence Fox, Katie Hopkins (etc) are being boosted by wealthy and influential people with concealed agendas?

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: amputeeporn on January 19, 2021, 05:25:15 PM
Yes exactly. He's not an interesting or charismatic guy and hasn't even really said or done much of note in his new guise, aside from acting the prick. So why are we however many pages deep talking about him? I think because there is something uncanny and not right about it all - not necessarily saying it's some vast conspiracy - just that the facts as presented don't scan and someone should be working out why.
It's weird. He did a lot of publicity (TV, newspaper interviews, etc) around late 2019/early 2020 initially for his new album, but that doesn't explain Question Time. He must have had a big PR budget behind him, but it seems unlikely that budget was from some record company thinking they'd make their fortune from a dirty-looking guy shout-whining about his failed love-life. So unless he funded it himself as a vanity measure, the other explanation is someone did it to promote him for other reasons. A freedom of information request to the BBC could be interesting, but I'm sure they'll wheedle out of it claiming privacy issues, commercial confidentiality, etc. O to see Question Time's booking policies and records of negotiations!

filth gabs

In regards to 'where did he come from?', i saw this spectator article going around twitter fairly recently. It was notable as a lot of the images have been disabled but you can see the captions. It is from 2015, and you can see already Fox was rubbing shoulders with this crowd. It is possible he was being talked into it, to be launched into the spotlight at an opportune moment, all hearty slaps on the back and promises of support.


Edit - link to the actual article, whoops:

It is from 2015, not 2016
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-spectator-summer-party-in-pictures

jobotic

He was brought QT specifically to say what he said wasn't he? They like to have a far-right racist on every week, have for years. So he must have been advertising himself to them as one, or some else was.

It wasn't "let's get that bloke who used to be on Lewis on OMG he done a racism"


jobotic

Perhaps. Maybe he was the last one in the building, like when I ended up playing a game for the school football team.


(and got sent off for calling a black player the real racist)

Buelligan

Quote from: Paul Calf on January 20, 2021, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on January 19, 2021, 11:00:37 PM
I love the idea that Laurence Fox is some Machiavellian plan by wealthy right-wingers and they specifically made sure that he had a failed music career as part of it.

Why is it neccessary for that to be true in order to conclude that Laurence Fox, Katie Hopkins (etc) are being boosted by wealthy and influential people with concealed agendas?

It's not but it does make it funnier. 

Let's face it, this subject needs all the laughs it can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKTEnluo6Y

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: filth gabs on January 20, 2021, 10:06:19 AM
In regards to 'where did he come from?', i saw this spectator article going around twitter fairly recently. It was notable as a lot of the images have been disabled but you can see the captions. It is from 2015, and you can see already Fox was rubbing shoulders with this crowd. It is possible he was being talked into it, to be launched into the spotlight at an opportune moment, all hearty slaps on the back and promises of support.


Edit - link to the actual article, whoops:

It is from 2015, not 2016
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-spectator-summer-party-in-pictures

Interesting. Simon Callow, Maureen 'I'm leaving the Labour party' Lipman and Mick Hucknall also there.

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: jobotic on January 20, 2021, 10:11:06 AM
He was brought QT specifically to say what he said wasn't he? They like to have a far-right racist on every week, have for years. So he must have been advertising himself to them as one, or some else was.

It wasn't "let's get that bloke who used to be on Lewis on OMG he done a racism"
He didn't seem to be known at all for racism or right-wing views before his appearance. He was a reasonably well-known actor (at least among ITV viewers), a singer who'd got a bit of publicity but no success, and the son of someone famous. At the time it seemed like a case of someone who says something offensive almost accidentally, then doubles down on it (shades of Linehan's IT Crowd transphobia). Normally when they have a racist on "to represent a range of opinions", it's a well-known journalist or media tosser, a politician, a cunt from UKIP/BNP/Conservative Party/etc, or just another booking for Nigel Farage. Certainly all the media coverage at the time was "who is this cunt and why is he being a racist"? His offensiveness seemed to be a surprise at least to the media. It's possible someone at Question Time knew he was a racist and he'd been promoted by somebody, but that just raises the question of who was behind it. You can't just phone up the BBC and say "I'm in Emmerdale and I hate blacks, can I come on plz?"


Buelligan

Not the first time someone's wondered whether there's something odd going one behind the curtains at Question Time.

QuoteIs BBC Question Time's audience producer really a fascist?  A freak Twitter storm engulfed the audience producer of the popular current affairs programme last week, as it was revealed she had shared Facebook posts by far right groups. But is there more to it?

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ourbeeb/is-question-time-s-audience-producer-really-fascist/



bgmnts

Surely the 'utter cunt extremely loud majority' have enough voices to speak up for them?

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Buelligan on January 21, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
Not the first time someone's wondered whether there's something odd going one behind the curtains at Question Time.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ourbeeb/is-question-time-s-audience-producer-really-fascist/

Time for the BBC to close its doors, sell of its assets to QVC and retire to the wolds to rot.

jobotic

Quote from: bgmnts on March 06, 2021, 08:16:50 PM
Surely the 'utter cunt extremely loud majority' have enough voices to speak up for them?

Each individual cunt should stand.

idunnosomename

boosted by the sunday telegraph and its "war on woke" it's so obsessed about


Fambo Number Mive

Let's hope Fox takes some votes away from Shaun Bailey.


Mr Farenheit

Danny Lambo will get more votes than this drip.

Sherringford Hovis

Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on March 06, 2021, 09:30:40 PM
Let's hope Fox takes some votes away from Shaun Bailey.

While Gammons furtively peeks through the window in a confusing flush of outrage and arousal.

jobotic


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