Author Topic: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]  (Read 28651 times)

AllisonSays

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Re: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]
« Reply #570 on: May 03, 2020, 05:33:04 PM »
I would make the tenuous claim that, in all large metropolitan centres, it would be phenomenally unlikely to be discriminated against for a job on the basis of the colour of your skin. Your mileage will likely deteriorate out in villages/small towns, but I suspect this is the case in most of the urban areas people congregate. I personally know privately-educated CEOs who employ ethnic minorities/Muslims. Even the 'establishment' aren't bothered about skin colour. We can see this even in the Tory party. The argument has been won.

I think where racism does make a difference is in those transitionary places (e.g. name-calling on public transport) which won't make a difference to your life materially, but probably will knock your confidence and make you think twice about the average person on the street. This is obviously abhorrent, but we need to separate this out from the kind of racism that exists in the workplace, which I suspect is negligible.

But I think all of this is to fail to grasp the concept of structural racism, because both of the potential scenarios you're describing (the absence of direct racist discrimination in employment; the possible presence of direct racist discrimination in public spaces) are about active, agentic, direct racism - people 'doing a racism'. A boss does a racism and doesn't hire someone whose grandparents came to Britain from south Asia, or a drunk woman on the nightbus does a racism and calls the same fictional man a racist slur.

I guess I would agree with you that the possibility of active, agentic, direct racism in the workplace is smaller now than it was prior to the Macpherson Report in 1999 and the Commission on the Future of Multi-Ethnic Britain in 2000. Especially in bigger workplaces there's usually some structures in place that mean that this kind of racism has consequences.

Structural racism as I understand it is about the intersection of various structural disadvantages, some of which can have very long histories and some of which can be relatively contemporary, which combine to create worse 'life-chances' for certain groups of people. These can be quite soft and cultural (the absence of representation, for instance) or quite hard and material (living conditions or household income, for instance). It's a way of explaining the complex series of factors that lead to a situation where (for example) fewer than one per cent of university professors are black.

It doesn't require people to be actively racist in order to function, which is where I think the examples you've given there don't quite get to what the concept is trying to describe.

Sorry, that's a long post, I hope it's clear!

Re: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]
« Reply #571 on: June 29, 2020, 01:11:15 AM »
I see he's challenging Gary Lineker over his support of BLM now, over the UKBLM statement on Israel. Straight out of the Glinner playbook. DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS, @GARYLINEKER?

Has he been having a go at BLM the whole time? I haven't really noticed him for months.

BlodwynPig

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Re: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]
« Reply #572 on: June 29, 2020, 09:37:40 AM »
I see he's challenging Gary Lineker over his support of BLM now, over the UKBLM statement on Israel. Straight out of the Glinner playbook. DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS, @GARYLINEKER?

Has he been having a go at BLM the whole time? I haven't really noticed him for months.

I noticed a lot of sidebar "flufff" pieces about "his struggle/mein kampf", "depression", "loneliness of being the singular voice of reason", "the toll of a jet setting lifestyle", "passion for fast cars". That sort of stuff. Look people, this is what you must aspire to. However, if you want to be like him, you must also support capitalist fascism and denounce all that is good in the world...'kay!?!?

Re: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]
« Reply #573 on: June 29, 2020, 09:57:55 AM »
The Guardian had a funny interview with Lozza's cousin Freddie Fox who was trying very hard to be diplomatic about his racist relative: "There’s a dangerous quality to his acting that I think all actors strive for, and that can inevitably seep into one’s off-set life a little bit, too."

Meanwhile Loz has unveiled a Patreon (what, Loz, are you poor now!?) and is being pally with voice of reason Julia Hartley-Brewer. Obviously not getting much TV work: "The @bbc is a corrupt organisation that sows division between friends. If they want to compete for our appreciation, they should do so within the free market."

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Re: Laurence Fox - Another anti-woke grifter [split topic]
« Reply #574 on: June 29, 2020, 09:59:59 AM »
God, when are they going to stop trying to murder this man's opinion?!

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