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« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2020, 12:54:39 PM »
Even better!

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« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2020, 09:06:26 PM »
There is a prize - if you win the final don't you win something like Moses' original stone tablets or the last Dodo in existence?

You win one of the Elgin marbles, I think.

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2020, 09:43:29 PM »
The one good Jeopardy moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Wj2dYfB-U

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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2020, 04:34:04 PM »
Should obviously be called "Who's Asking?"

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« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2020, 02:34:26 PM »
They should combine it with Pointless and get contestants to come up with a question nobody else would ask. If they ever wanted to do a British version.

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« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2020, 10:35:16 PM »
Nah. Golden Balls with Jasper Carrott was the tits. I especially liked how the rules changed for each round, and had clauses and sub-clauses that had to be explained in detail. All leading up to some unrepentant lying cnut robbing all the cash at the end.


Thanks for reminding me. What a weird, bad show that was.

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« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2020, 09:17:08 AM »
Fifteen to One was the best quiz show.

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No fucking prize.

the element of mystery when they couldn't show that one finallist for Legal Reasons

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« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2020, 10:24:47 AM »
Is this the place to mention how much I hate Mastermind (which of course I always think of as Mindermast)?

The presence of John Humphrys, obviously. Its self regarding 'hardest quiz on tv' delusion (of course it isn't - the general knowledge round is absurdly easy to do well at and I assume the specialist subject is similarly calibrated). You have to wait for the question to finish before answering (I presume, HOPE, that they time Humphrys reading all the questions to ensure they take the same amount of time).

And I'm sorry, leather swivel chairs and spot lights are no longer intimidating in the 21st Century: we've ALL SEEN THEM.

I do admire the spirit which makes the producers keep trying to find ways to humanise the contestants - clearly getting Humphrys to interview them was a mistake, so they did without for a few years. Now they have post-show stand up interviews with them (like they do at the end of  Strictly).

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« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2020, 11:52:46 AM »
the element of mystery when they couldn't show that one finallist for Legal Reasons

I assume this was a joke but it's not. What might those reasons be? It's not as if the contestant was being asked where he was on a certain night. I can't imagine his intro said he was currently working undercover against Triad gangs. Nor would he be introduced as "Child A, currently involved in a high profile Social Services case".

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2020, 01:42:10 PM »
There was of course a British version of Jeopardy in the 90s but it wasn't very popular because of the studio's decision to set it in the Australian bush, replace Alex Trebek with a load of Scottish children and have the hosts just talk about aliens instead of asking any questions.

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« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2020, 01:46:16 PM »
I'd like to throw in Brain of Britain. (Is that still on R4? Robert Robinson is definitely dead so I'm not sure.) But that used to drive me mad as a kid due to the glaring fundamental flaw: if a contestant gets a question wrong or passes, it moves down to the next contestant in the line. This means anyone directly  downstream of a div gets to hoover up loads of bonus questions on top of their own questions and earn more points.

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2020, 01:49:23 PM »
Could be worse...


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There was a very Going For Gold moment on a recent Pointless Celebrities. A 20-something Dutch stand-up Comedian was asked to name a n obscure Carry On film title. Utterly lost. (Why her English partner couldn’t help I don’t know)

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2020, 02:11:45 PM »
Thanks for reminding me. What a weird, bad show that was.

The bingo-themed quiz The Biggest Game in Town is the nadir of quiz shows for me. Absolutely impenetrable. 'OK Susan, you answered three right, so that gives you 7, 12 and 4, meaning you have to get 3 more to get 8. And if you're playing along at home: 12'

WHAT?!?!




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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2020, 02:30:47 PM »
I assume this was a joke but it's not. What might those reasons be? It's not as if the contestant was being asked where he was on a certain night. I can't imagine his intro said he was currently working undercover against Triad gangs. Nor would he be introduced as "Child A, currently involved in a high profile Social Services case".

there's so little information. they even refrained from showing that contestant's heat, but for some reason, instead of putting the next best qualifier into the final, they just edited them out and skipped them entirely. was in 2000. Clearly they'd only found out after the recording, and they'd recorded the whole series in one go so couldn't go back and redo the final. all so vague and mysterious, I keep looking for something but find nothing

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« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2020, 03:21:37 PM »
there's so little information. they even refrained from showing that contestant's heat, but for some reason, instead of putting the next best qualifier into the final, they just edited them out and skipped them entirely. was in 2000. Clearly they'd only found out after the recording, and they'd recorded the whole series in one go so couldn't go back and redo the final. all so vague and mysterious, I keep looking for something but find nothing

Never knew about this. Just watched the intro (with the continuity announcer's explanation).

There's some hokey explanation* in the comments that it was to cover up for the contestant who was stuck in Australia, but that doesn't make any sense as the 3 contestants who scored 201 played off against each other for his place - so as far as the broadcast board goes, they effectively proceed with 14 players.

*This comment was only added 3 days ago BTW.

You can see they've edited out the wide shot at the start, presumably to avoid showing the number 4 podium.

There could be any number of reasons for having to cut them out of broadcasts - probably subsequent criminal proceedings, or some sort of civil service/diplomatic secrecy problem. (More fancifully, maybe they were on the witness protection scheme or something.)

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2020, 03:27:21 PM »
Maybe they were just too ugly for broadcast.

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« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2020, 03:38:29 PM »
In 2013 somebody put in a Freedom of Information request as to the nature of the legal reasons, but was refused because C4's status is such that they aren't required to release such information.

I guess the only way you could really find out would be if a co-contestant or a member of production staff blabbed.

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« Reply #77 on: January 29, 2020, 03:44:02 PM »
Maybe they were just too ugly for broadcast.

You've clearly never seen 15 to 1

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« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2020, 03:51:00 PM »
Is this the place to mention how much I hate Mastermind (which of course I always think of as Mindermast)?

The presence of John Humphrys, obviously. Its self regarding 'hardest quiz on tv' delusion (of course it isn't - the general knowledge round is absurdly easy to do well at and I assume the specialist subject is similarly calibrated).

I think somebody here pointed out that the trick is to find a niche specialist subject that only has one or two authoritative books written about it. Swot up on them, and you can ace the round no problem.

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« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2020, 04:00:37 PM »
There was a very Going For Gold moment on a recent Pointless Celebrities. A 20-something Dutch stand-up Comedian was asked to name a n obscure Carry On film title. Utterly lost. (Why her English partner couldn’t help I don’t know)

The was a question on The Chase a week or two back, something along the lines of "Which sports personality starred in a decathlon themed video game". Basically a question only a subset of people born in the 70s would get. Naturally the Boomer and Millennial contestants were stumped.

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2020, 04:35:01 PM »
You can see they've edited out the wide shot at the start, presumably to avoid showing the number 4 podium.

This thread on Digitalspy suggests you can see them in silhouette at the end of round 1.

And yeah the Australia thing has nothing to do with the missing contestant.  The missing contestant was in position 4, the guy stranded in Australia has been replaced by Peter Effer in position 11, so even allowing for the Australia guy there's still only 14 contestants.
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« Reply #81 on: January 29, 2020, 05:37:50 PM »
the Digitalspy thread's the furthest I've gotten in unravelling this. hopefully beans get spilled somewhere, just to satisfy curiosity

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« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2020, 06:48:19 PM »
I found another thread on Digitalspy which doesn't really reveal any more, but I may as well post it now I've found it.

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« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2020, 07:25:02 PM »
I'd like to throw in Brain of Britain. (Is that still on R4? Robert Robinson is definitely dead so I'm not sure.) But that used to drive me mad as a kid due to the glaring fundamental flaw: if a contestant gets a question wrong or passes, it moves down to the next contestant in the line. This means anyone directly  downstream of a div gets to hoover up loads of bonus questions on top of their own questions and earn more points.

It is still on, presented by Russell "not T" Davies. You're wrong about the flaw though - if someone answers wrong it's on the buzzer (which is actually a light). Not on at the moment - Round Britain Quiz started a new series a couple of weeks ago, which is like Only Connect on the radio.

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« Reply #84 on: January 29, 2020, 07:56:45 PM »
The closest we ever came to a British version was Clue's in the Question which ran for one series in the Central tv region in 1983. Bob Carolgees was a controversial choice as host; he was trying to move away from Spit the Dog into more serious roles, but struggled to find the necessary gravitas for a quiz show and viewers failed to warm to him.

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« Reply #85 on: January 29, 2020, 09:39:10 PM »
I'd like to throw in Brain of Britain. (Is that still on R4? Robert Robinson is definitely dead so I'm not sure.) But that used to drive me mad as a kid due to the glaring fundamental flaw: if a contestant gets a question wrong or passes, it moves down to the next contestant in the line. This means anyone directly  downstream of a div gets to hoover up loads of bonus questions on top of their own questions and earn more points.

one of those things that gets most of its recognition from being one of those things people just say, rather than through itself

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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2020, 01:24:51 AM »
the Digitalspy thread's the furthest I've gotten in unravelling this. hopefully beans get spilled somewhere, just to satisfy curiosity

I enjoyed how it quickly degenerated into "i loved 15 to 1 bring it back still watch it in challenge". Amazing to think it did come back and has been axed again in the intervening time.

Interesting snippet about serial finalist Trevor Montague and his fraudulent appearance under a different name.

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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2020, 10:16:29 AM »
My granddad went on 15 to 1 twice and he shat it both times

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« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2020, 12:14:01 PM »
The was a question on The Chase a week or two back, something along the lines of "Which sports personality starred in a decathlon themed video game". Basically a question only a subset of people born in the 70s would get. Naturally the Boomer and Millennial contestants were stumped.

I presume it was Daley Thompson. Who is basically the only above normal fame decathlete who regularly did TV rounds in 90s and maybe later; particularly telling his story about training on Christmas day like it was something revolutionary.
Get annoyed when contestants suggest it is unfair a question is asked before their time on quizzes like the Chase. It testing general knowledge overall so the more of a cocoon you have yourself in the less likely you will get high answers; with questions not really supposed to be tailored to the member like Mastermind would be (or the Celebrity specials where contestants will get a proportion of questions in their general sphere of work).

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Re: Q: This quiz doesn't follow through on its basic premise
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2020, 08:10:26 PM »
The was a question on The Chase a week or two back, something along the lines of "Which sports personality starred in a decathlon themed video game". Basically a question only a subset of people born in the 70s would get. Naturally the Boomer and Millennial contestants were stumped.

Born end of 1964... we wrecked SO many PC keyboards at work playing that game in our lunchhours (c. 1988 IIRC); it got banned in the end.


Fun fact: my phone tried to autocorrect "lunchhours" to "lunchbox". :-)

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