Rape on PornHub

[paruses]

Are they? Most of them?

Yes - are they? I will gladly accept a data set that shows this but I won't accept a few documentaries that suggest it.

[PlanktonSideburns]

Yea keep hearing this being said - I don't know any port people so I've no idea

Where does the info come from

[idunnosomename]

port people

poopy poopy poopypoo

[Zetetic]

It's impossible to miss Pornhub if you use social media,"" says Rose. "They've done a great job at positioning themselves as a 'woke' mission, almost transcending porn"

Eh?!

Stuff like this as well:
https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1160472321297199104

[madhair60]

For what it's worth, if I came across a Pornhub video depicting rape, I would most definitely give it a "thumbs down".

[marquis_de_sad]

For what it's worth, if I came across a Pornhub video depicting rape, I would most definitely give it a "thumbs down".

That's exactly what those sick perverts want you to do.

[machotrouts]

PornHub Gay homepage once featured a video of a man cumming on a sleeping homeless man's face. 49:51 like:dislike ratio, so at least we're winning that culture war

[Annie Labuntur]

It's impossible to miss Pornhub if you use social media,"" says Rose. "They've done a great job at positioning themselves as a 'woke' mission, almost transcending porn"

Eh?!

Stuff like this as well:
https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1160472321297199104

I remember the publicity when The Artist Who Met Mayte Garcia When She Was 16 And He Was 32 And Then Became Her Legal Guardian Before Going On To Marry Her Prince died and Pornhub put a tribute to him on their home page. People were falling over themselves to say how cool and moving it was.

[Mister Six]

The Artist Who Met Mayte Garcia When She Was 16 And He Was 32 And Then Became Her Legal Guardian Before Going On To Marry Her

Mayte.

[Noodle Lizard]

Remember that Hot Girls Wanted documentary Rashida Jones produced about girls going into porn? I thought it was woefully ineffective. They clearly didn't get nearly as much of a "horror story" as they wanted/expected, so instead compensated with a lot of ominous music and coerced emotional reactions that likely wouldn't have happened if there wasn't someone pointing a camera in the young woman's face, asking her probing questions about what her mum must think of her. Also, it apparently inspired a lot of girls to sign up for that particular company, if the agent featured in the doc is to be believed.

I think the idea that a significant number (let alone most) of girls in porn are trafficked or coerced is pretty off-base. There are certainly sad stories about how/why some of them got into it, but that's a very different thing, and it can only be damaging to equate that with actual sex trafficking. Anyway, it's easier than ever to find good, organic, "free-range" porn in the form of homemade amateur uploads. I understand it might not be everyone's preference, but there you go. For whatever it's worth, I've never stumbled upon anything untoward on PornHub, so at least they seem to be doing a decent enough job of filtering out the grime.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Given the amount of clips with words in the title like 'forced to', whether you want to see that or not, that's surprising to read you've never seen it.

They certainly platform violent porn where women are used and abused, really treated shittily, and not in a bdsm type way, in a hitting, choking rape way. That's obviously someone's fantasy and they get away with it by framing it like that, but I think that already crosses the line for me, Clive. If you're physically doing that to someone and they're only allowing that because of needing money rather than a genuine desire to have that happen to them, there is a moral hazard there.

They also have tonnes of videos where women resist and then get overpowered and gradually change to ooh ah hmm its not so bad hmm I'm into it now. Basically rape-normalising culture. Again under cover of fantasy.

[thenoise]

I'm sure what 'under cover of fantasy' means here.  Are you suggesting that they aren't pretending?  A lot of porn people are quite damaged people, have quite strange attitudes towards sex etc.  As are the people who pay for it (who I presume, have more bizarre and specific requests than the 15 year old who stumbles across it out of curiosity on his phone).

I don't feel like google searching for 'porn child sex abuse' right now, but that phrase was used by Sasha Grey during one of her TV interviews.  She is known for being quite candid and pro porn overall (at least, she was at the time).  The exact phrase she used was 'not all, but most have'.

[New folder]

Is this some kind of joke that I'm not getting, where guys repeatedly ask for statistics on women abused in porn?

If it is serious, I could provide the evidence. But first, is there an acceptable statistical threshold for exploitation in porn? Why does the number even matter?

Only 49%? Well, that's ok then, "most" of them are fine. No guilty wanks for me.

[Zetetic]

I'm sure what 'under cover of fantasy' means here.  Are you suggesting that they aren't pretending?

"Fantasy" seems to be used as an excuse for a general (near overwhelming?) tendency in porn (as uploaded, promoted and presumably consumed on sites like PornHub). Unpicking the causal direction there - is this driven by producers or consumers? - is difficult and interesting, but not necessary to recognise the tendency.

And regardless of "fantasy" or the issue of acting, these videos depict what they depict.

[Sony Walkman Prophecies]

Dr. Parenthesis has spoken!

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

I'm sure what 'under cover of fantasy' means here

Zetetic has expanded on that quite well.

I'm talking about the idea that porn containing very realistic depictions of abuse and suffering, framed and promoted as  non-consensual in some way but still hiding under the guise of 'porn, therefore fiction/fantasy cos actors' isn't easily distinguishable from actual real abusive sex that has been filmed and uploaded, creating a moral hazard that affects, or should affect everyone involved from the creator to the platformer to the consumer.

It would be interesting to see people's reactions/level of appeal the same video was marketed differently.

[New folder]

Agree with Shoulders completely

[Sebastian Cobb]

Is this some kind of joke that I'm not getting, where guys repeatedly ask for statistics on women abused in porn?

If it is serious, I could provide the evidence. But first, is there an acceptable statistical threshold for exploitation in porn? Why does the number even matter?

Only 49%? Well, that's ok then, "most" of them are fine. No guilty wanks for me.

They're asking for statistics because they perceived your claim as hyperbole.

They're probably going to perceive this response as an incredulous plea to emotion to avoid backing it up.

[New folder]

Emotions?? No, anything but that!

Statistically uncruel wanking only please.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Emotions?? No, anything but that!

Statistically uncruel wanking only please.

You made a hasty generalisation and are now attacking people for pointing that out. Why?

[Janie Jones]

Is this some kind of joke that I'm not getting, where guys repeatedly ask for statistics on women abused in porn?

If it is serious, I could provide the evidence. But first, is there an acceptable statistical threshold for exploitation in porn? Why does the number even matter?

Only 49%? Well, that's ok then, "most" of them are fine. No guilty wanks for me.

You're pissing in the wind[nb]A niche genre that nonetheless has its enthusiastic supporters[/nb] on this website, luv. There are a lot of people on here who use free porn often and some of them who have partners hide their use of porn from their partners. The men of CaB are keen to thunderously and righteously defend socialism, veganism, environmentalism, animal rights, LBGT rights, but they refuse to be made to feel uncomfortable or guilty when it comes to wanking over images of a trafficked teen being gangbanged. In previous discussions on porn we've had regular posters explaining pompously why they nowadays only watch 'amateur' porn, like that makes them a beacon of thoughtful respect we should all aspire to.

[Paul Calf]

The BBC are reporting this just as Cummings and his merry band of super-conformist weirdos are kicking off their project to achieve full-spectrum dominance, then?

I wonder what will be proposed in response to this outrage...?

[earl_sleek]

Find it a bit suspicious that apparently trafficking and coercion are regular occurrences in the porn industry yet nobody can ever provide statistics or evidence for it beyond isolated cases (which are horrible for those involved, sure, but using unusual occurrences as if they're the norm is a bullshit argument). You'd think it'd be the opposite, right?

[jobotic]

Cummings is instructing his shower to ignore court rulings as we speak to deport their own citizens.

The original story is about a woman saying that her rape was put on Pornhub. What a nightmare if that were to be cracked down.

[touchingcloth]

All porn is rape. Discuss.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Cummings is instructing his shower to ignore court rulings as we speak to deport their own citizens.

The original story is about a woman saying that her rape was put on Pornhub. What a nightmare if that were to be cracked down.

Perhaps we should have a weekly poll so we all can agree what to worry about for the week.

[Space ghost]

Have a look at the recent "Girls do porn" scandal and subsequent courtcase for a good case study on coersion, harassment and illegality in the 'safe and regulated' western porn industry. It intersects with the 'wokeness' of pornhub and amateur porn discussions rather well too.

[jobotic]

Perhaps we should have a weekly poll so we all can agree what to worry about for the week.

Tell me it's possible to be concerned about more than one thing at the same time next, as I'm too stupid to understand that.

[bgmnts]

Not being concerned about rape is a bit of an odd one.

[thenoise]

Find it a bit suspicious that apparently trafficking and coercion are regular occurrences in the porn industry yet nobody can ever provide statistics or evidence for it beyond isolated cases (which are horrible for those involved, sure, but using unusual occurrences as if they're the norm is a bullshit argument). You'd think it'd be the opposite, right?

Well I think porn producers (do they still have ties to the mafia or is that another unfounded myth? They certainly have ties to prostitution and shady 'modelling agencies' and hence organised crime) know better than to attempt to exploit women with the resources or wherewithal to pursue their exploiters in the courts. Especially when they've been coerced into reading a disclaimer to camera while holding their passport. And (perhaps) have a rather twisted view of what constitutes normal sex due to having been treated in a similar way too many times before.

Heaps of porn exploit the idea of exploiting women and pushing their boundaries, coercing them into going a 'bit further' - the whole 'casting couch' subgenre for example. How many police resources do you think are dedicated to trawling through these thousands and thousands of hours of footage, making sure everyone is pretending and it's all just good clean fun?

A handful of ex pornstars have opened up about how institutionally abusive the industry is. Although they tend to shy away from naming and shaming directly.