Author Topic: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?  (Read 1169 times)

Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2020, 01:43:51 PM »
GET EM ALL OUT! ENGLISHLAND FOR ENGLAND'S PEOPLE!!

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Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2020, 01:46:48 PM »
What's it to you what happens to Mr. Crawford?  Him being kicked out of England won't stop you being a louse who thinks he's a Soprano but is actually a gammon faced goose egg who couldn't get a rise out of a yeast factory because you're just too mild-mannered.

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Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2020, 01:56:44 PM »
I'm on the fence with the broader issue of deportation of "proper foreign criminals" (like a Russian people trafficker based in the UK, for obvious example), but I've seen interviews with three people who were among those deported to Jamaica and...well, they're fucking British.  English even - London and Northern accents.  One of them even said his ancestry is South African and he has no family or friends in any part of the Caribbean.  So what's the deal there? 
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Was he a citizen of one of those Caribbean countries? Why would they deport someone to a place they'd never lived?

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Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2020, 02:00:36 PM »
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Was he a citizen of one of those Caribbean countries? Why would they deport someone to a place they'd never lived?

Exactly why I'm asking the question!

He could've been bullshitting I suppose - they didn't actually cover what any of their crimes were.  They could all have been child murderers for all I know.

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Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2020, 09:32:33 PM »
Exactly why I'm asking the question!

He could've been bullshitting I suppose - they didn't actually cover what any of their crimes were.  They could all have been child murderers for all I know.
I'm sorry, I assumed you knew more about it. I was about to dismiss it with a "peculiar, innit?" but that seems excessively light-hearted when it's peoples' lives we're talking about.

I don't think immigrants should suffer any more than the average Brit if they commit a crime. But.

Re: Deporting people from abroad convicted of crimes - where is the logic?
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2020, 08:18:51 AM »
The point being surely in out wonderful* Liberal* world, governments maintain the right on who comes in - specifically via the visa system. Now, breaking the rules in that system is punished in varying degrees (Waves to the wife of the US diplomat who fled the country after murdering someone with their car), but the ultimate outcome is that the government of the day decides on how to enforce this - in Australia, for example, we just had a ruling on the Government trying to deport Aboriginal Australians (who had one Aboriginal parent but born in NZ/PNG), and in the current "mashing the racism button" world, a nice two minute news story on how the brave government is defending you from horrible foren criminals is easy.
Plus, they're taking jobs from local criminals and small business-dealers, just trying to make a dime.
(I imagine there's some stats on recidivism too, but when your prison system isn't aimed towards rehabilitation anyway....)

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