Author Topic: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror  (Read 77973 times)

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1260 on: March 23, 2020, 07:46:23 PM »
It’s very weird to watch the writer of Father Ted and yer man off The Upper Hand spending a global crisis directly badgering a well-known socialist songwriter constantly about why he won’t watch their strange friends’ YouTube videos about ‘lumbering blokes in dresses’. Ross seems to have backed away from it a little, or at least Linehan isn’t tagging him into everything any more. Tch, the fucking haidmaiden misogynist wokebeard cunt.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1261 on: March 23, 2020, 08:32:10 PM »
it's hard to see are graham as a brave crusader now he's "secured" his account. the only reason he unlocked was because he was getting stressed about follow requests.

what a fucking miserable cunt

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1262 on: March 23, 2020, 10:17:27 PM »
I notice that Private Eye have put being non-binary in Pseud’s Corner this week. It will be an interesting letters page next issue.

Edit: here it is



There’s plenty in the quote itself that justifies inclusion in the column. None of the other entrants have their genders mentioned next to their name, so clearly PE think it’s another affectation like being a Wiccan.
PE are infamous for transphobia, to the point that one of their cartoons was actually cited as possible transphobic content in that Forstater tribunal.  I wrote a letter to the editor and he replied saying that he's passed it around the office - whether to laugh at or listen to, I don't know.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1263 on: March 24, 2020, 12:22:25 AM »
[A certain prominent YouTuber] took a little swipe at Are Graham in his latest video, which amused me greatly.

I was gonna say who it was but then I don't want Glinner reading this thread and going OOH ANOTHER TARGET

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1264 on: March 24, 2020, 12:27:51 AM »
[A certain prominent YouTuber] took a little swipe at Are Graham in his latest video, which amused me greatly.

I was gonna say who it was but then I don't want Glinner reading this thread and going OOH ANOTHER TARGET

I doubt he has time to read this, or cares about our BEARD opinions.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1265 on: March 24, 2020, 04:39:52 AM »
I notice that Private Eye have put being non-binary in Pseud’s Corner this week. It will be an interesting letters page next issue.

Edit: here it is



There’s plenty in the quote itself that justifies inclusion in the column. None of the other entrants have their genders mentioned next to their name, so clearly PE think it’s another affectation like being a Wiccan.

Also isn't Summer the Younger Sting's child, not his son? Given that "son" is a gendered term.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1266 on: March 26, 2020, 07:58:53 AM »
Why do these woman definition people use female as a noun. A better definition is adult female human

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1267 on: March 26, 2020, 08:21:30 AM »
There’s plenty in the quote itself that justifies inclusion in the column. None of the other entrants have their genders mentioned next to their name, so clearly PE think it’s another affectation like being a Wiccan.

I think that - being charitable - PE may be trying to clarify the pronoun usage in the quote to its late-middle-age -> dotard readership.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1268 on: March 26, 2020, 08:30:09 AM »
PE are infamous for transphobia

Also homophobia. I have a vague recollection that there was some sort of retrospective apology for their persistent use of the term Anal Injected Death Syndrome long after knowledge about HIV and its transmission methods had become common knowledge, but I can’t find any reference to such an admission of getting it wrong.

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1269 on: March 26, 2020, 09:38:47 AM »
Richard Ingrams, former Eye editor and writer, was a keen and blatant homophobe, possibly because (like Hislop) he's a stout Anglican (and doesn't realise the C of E is more relaxed about this kind of thing lately). He was apparently particularly fond of gay vicar stories. Must be the English public school education.

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« Reply #1270 on: March 26, 2020, 10:06:06 AM »
Also homophobia. I have a vague recollection that there was some sort of retrospective apology for their persistent use of the term Anal Injected Death Syndrome long after knowledge about HIV and its transmission methods had become common knowledge, but I can’t find any reference to such an admission of getting it wrong.
I remember raising my eyebrows at the needless allusion to Derek Conway’s son’s homosexuality on the cover of this issue in 2005

To their partial credit, they published a letter decrying it in the next issue. It’s also a crappy, facile bit of wordplay regardless. 

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1271 on: March 26, 2020, 11:25:57 AM »
Richard Ingrams, former Eye editor and writer, was a keen and blatant homophobe

Hmmm... that article just states that PE has a history of opposition to gay rights (without a single piece of evidence) and contains Ingrams apparently denying being a homophobe. I read PE from about 1986 until the early 2000s and although it was littered with the kind of casual homophobia (use of words like 'poof') that was usual for adult humour of the time, I honestly can't recall any kind of consistent opposition to gay rights, or indeed consistent opposition to anything other than perceived hypocrisy and vacuity. What some may have seen as anti-feminism and reaction (use of 'wimmin' and 'spartist' etc, and mocking of GLC policies) was - I always thought - more about deflating what Ingrams and his generation saw as novel forms of pretentiousness. I wouldn't defend it, but it's just inaccurate to portray it as anything as coherent as a political opposition to the granting of rights to specific groups. 

It was only once Hislop really got going that the magazine entered its current - all too coherent - phase of gimlet-eyed opposition to humour and readability.

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1272 on: March 26, 2020, 11:57:19 AM »
I've got a copy of Harry Thompson's biography of Richard Ingrams. He comes across as pretty damn homophobic in it. Never understood his "there is no such thing as the gay community" quote.

Still like Private Eye for its reporting, though, and can't deny Ingrams has more balls than me.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1273 on: March 26, 2020, 01:45:45 PM »
It's remained homophobic long beyond the early 2000s. It was probably about five years ago - less, if anything - that I stopped reading it and there were always snide comments attached to anyone gay that they mentioned. Any mention of Peter Mandelson, for example, had an obligatory snigger at his sexuality.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1274 on: March 26, 2020, 03:34:42 PM »
It's remained homophobic long beyond the early 2000s. It was probably about five years ago - less, if anything - that I stopped reading it and there were always snide comments attached to anyone gay that they mentioned. Any mention of Peter Mandelson, for example, had an obligatory snigger at his sexuality.

Sure, but I still think it's a reach to say that the magazine has an editorial stance against gay rights...

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« Reply #1275 on: March 26, 2020, 05:09:14 PM »
Sure, but I still think it's a reach to say that the magazine has an editorial stance against gay rights...
What practical difference is there between an editorial stance against gay rights (your phrase btw, not anyone else’s) and an editorial stance that allows repeated and regular homophobia?

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1276 on: March 26, 2020, 05:33:12 PM »
Sure, but I still think it's a reach to say that the magazine has an editorial stance against gay rights...
No-one has said that, apart from you. They said that Richard Ingrams is a homophobe and they continue to allow homophobia in its pages.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1277 on: March 26, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »
Ingrams' version of the Eye could appear pretty homophobic, yes (speaking as someone who started reading the last couple of years of it at the time).

One of the first things Ian Hislop did upon taking over in 1986 was to stop running stories on MI5 & MI6 the comic strip "The Gays".  He published a reader's letter decrying its homophobic humour and asking if the Eye couldn't do better in these modern times, which got a simple "Yes. I agree. Ed." type rejoinder and Lo! it was gone, replaced, I think, by a different-themed strip by the same artist.

That's not to say it's perfect now, though.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1278 on: March 26, 2020, 10:51:53 PM »
I hope this tangent gets a split thread. Interesting reading.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1279 on: March 26, 2020, 10:56:04 PM »
It’s very weird to watch the writer of Father Ted and yer man off The Upper Hand spending a global crisis directly badgering a well-known socialist songwriter constantly about why he won’t watch their strange friends’ YouTube videos about ‘lumbering blokes in dresses’. Ross seems to have backed away from it a little, or at least Linehan isn’t tagging him into everything any more. Tch, the fucking haidmaiden misogynist wokebeard cunt.

Ross is to comedy what Richard Hammond is to motoring gammon-bigotry. Just as Stewart Lee framed the Hamster, a greasy arse-kissing kid that tags behind the real bullies sniggering and trying to be mates with them. A natural instinct towards twattishness that he needs other people to voice for him in case it's unpopular.

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« Reply #1280 on: March 27, 2020, 08:48:25 AM »
Ross is to comedy what Richard Hammond is to motoring gammon-bigotry. Just as Stewart Lee framed the Hamster, a greasy arse-kissing kid that tags behind the real bullies sniggering and trying to be mates with them. A natural instinct towards twattishness that he needs other people to voice for him in case it's unpopular.

YES! That is it. Exactly.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1281 on: March 27, 2020, 08:54:54 AM »
Hahahaha

https://mobile.twitter.com/Glinner/status/1243289066478751745

glinner roaming the apocalyptic wilderness looking for jack Dorsey while yelling BRING BACK MEGHAN MURPHY!!!!

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1282 on: March 27, 2020, 11:52:11 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/Glinner/status/1243289066478751745

The bluntness of the first response to this really made me laugh. If you're on here more stew than man, well played.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1283 on: March 27, 2020, 12:18:27 PM »
Still furiously tweeting at Billy Bragg lol.

He’s been very easy to ignore last few weeks hasn’t he? Just faded into the background noise of the internet. Give the bigotry a break mate, there’s a war covid on.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1284 on: March 27, 2020, 12:21:05 PM »
Pandemic affecting daily life worldwide and are graham is tearing his hair out over mermaids copying childline by having a button on their website to leave the website

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« Reply #1285 on: March 27, 2020, 03:38:43 PM »
No-one has said that, apart from you. They said that Richard Ingrams is a homophobe and they continue to allow homophobia in its pages.

The Guardian article linked in the post I replied to said exactly that.

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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1286 on: March 27, 2020, 03:51:11 PM »
Tempted to follow him just out of morbid curiosity. What happens then? Do I lose half my followers straight away?

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1287 on: March 27, 2020, 04:17:04 PM »
He's pleading with us to watch the pile of shite that was Count Arthur Strong now. No lumbering blokes in dresses in it, that's the Glinner Guarantee!

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1243554760919257089?s=20
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Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1288 on: March 27, 2020, 05:11:48 PM »
He's pleading with us to watch the pile of shite that was Count Arthur Strong now. No lumbering blokes in dresses in it, that's the Glinner Guarantee!

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1243554760919257089?s=20

Tempted to ask if he can confirm it passes the Bechdel test before I buy it.

Re: Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror
« Reply #1289 on: March 27, 2020, 09:45:35 PM »
He appeared to be sticking up for Jordan Peterson last night too unless i read it wrong.

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