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"An important emotional link between them and other road users"

Started by Fambo Number Mive, February 11, 2020, 10:37:27 AM

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Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Shit Good Nose on February 11, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Well, I moaned there, but in reality whenever I was on a shared path or track I ALWAYS gave pedestrians right of way.

The ballache for me was the bell - just as many people have a go at you for using it as those that have a go at you for not using it.  That's one thing I DON'T miss.

I always move to where the gap is, but that can be hard to judge with a kid, or a dog sitting about, or when the pedestrian is bobbing along looking at their phone. Cars are more predictable, even if what they're doing is usually arseholeish.

I don't have a bell because I hate getting dinged out the way. Not really necessary given how much my lock rattles against my pannier rack.

Icehaven

While we're on such things, does anyone have a scooby what these road markings mean?



QuoteCoventry City Council has installed the patterns in a bid to "encourage drivers and pedestrians to be aware of each other".

Riiiiight. So they won't be less aware of each other because they're distracted by the bloody weird zigzags then? In reality you just get people haltingly crossing while cars judder towards them as no one has a clue whose right of way it is or whether or not they're supposed to be stopping. Maybe it works for this exact reason, I dunno.

ersatz99

Is that Cov rail station? I'm assuming it means shared usage where drivers, peds, cyclists all have equal priority.

Ah beaten to it.

Icehaven

Quote from: ersatz99 on February 11, 2020, 02:35:34 PM
Is that Cov rail station? I'm assuming it means shared usage where drivers, peds, cyclists all have equal priority.

It is indeed Cov, and as a pedestrian the shared space idea is, frankly, terrifying. "Equal priority" just means "my right of way" to too many people.

mrpupkin

Cunt getting in the lift every morning with his big unwieldy fold up bike and taking up half the space. Why doesn't he fold himself up and roll away forever like a completely humiliated ball?

Cuellar

Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on February 11, 2020, 01:26:26 PM
I do blame cyclists as its not the fault of pedestrians that the roads are dangerous. I'm doing my bit by not driving a car or motorcycle, why should I feel uncomfortable/at risk because car drivers are dangerous? If people don't feel safe cycling on the roads in cities, they can always take the bus like I do each day. People not feeling comfortable with walking somewhere because people whizz past them on bikes and expect them to get out the way are just going to take the car instead and clog up the roads.

It's also not the fault of the cyclists that the roads are dangerous.

QuoteI'm doing my bit by not driving a car or motorcycle, why should I feel uncomfortable/at risk because car drivers are dangerous?

As a cyclist, I could say the same thing: I'm doing my bit by not driving a car or motorcycle, why should I feel uncomfortable/at risk because car drivers are dangerous?

QuotePeople not feeling comfortable with walking somewhere because people whizz past them on bikes and expect them to get out the way are just going to take the car instead and clog up the roads.

Not if we ban cars in the inner city.

Sebastian Cobb

If you ban cars in inner city how will I rescue me bike when it breaks?

Cuellar



Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Cuellar on February 11, 2020, 02:55:14 PM
Take the goddamn bus!

That's how I got home when me bike broke. They don't let bikes on buses though.

Cuellar

Walk then I don't know, jeez. Anything else I can help with?

Christ.


Captain Z

Cunt bus drivers can do 10x the damage a car can do, they're the worst of the lot.

Shit Good Nose


Jockice

This came up on my on this day page on Facebook yesterday. From six years ago.

"Cyclists who wear those yellow bib things with 'the zero emission option' printed on the back, why don't you save ink as well by shortening the message to 'I am smug'?"

42 likes. That's quite a rarity.

king_tubby


paruses

Quote from: king_tubby on February 11, 2020, 03:16:47 PM
I have never seen such a thing.

Really? I'm pro-cyclist and a lapsed cyclist but you can get all manner of smug logo stuff about "It's not road tax" so this isn't much of a stretch.


shiftwork2

If you use a road, you're a cunt.  It is as simple as that.

Jockice

Quote from: Butchers Blind on February 11, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
Where do we place our opinion of disabled scooter users on pavements?

I saw an old geezer going about 5mph on a busy road yesterday. I was quite impressed at his sheer nerve. The last time I used mine it ran totally and unexpectedly out of charge and I had to be pushed back to my car by a bloke who'd been on his way to a meditation session.

It's only ever ran out of charge once before and I've only ever fallen off it once. All these events took place outside my dentists. This is entirely true.

Jockice

Quote from: king_tubby on February 11, 2020, 03:16:47 PM
I have never seen such a thing.

They had them in Sheffield around the time of my original post. There were loads of them about. It turned out they'd been given away free and the bloke who thought them up was an ex-colleague of mine at the newspaper who now works for the council. Small world etc.

paruses

Quote from: Jockice on February 11, 2020, 03:25:29 PM
I saw an old geezer going about 5mph on a busy road yesterday. I was quite impressed at his sheer nerve. The last time I used mine it ran totally and unexpectedly out of charge and I had to be pushed back to my car by a bloke who'd been on his way to a meditation session.

It's only ever ran out of charge once before and I've only ever fallen off it once. All these events took place outside my dentists. This is entirely true.

Do you have insurance for it? As in liability insurance. This is not going to turn into some exchange where I am furious that "you could have killed someone and then what?" - I am genuinely interested if people get it, have to get it, or consider it. My ex-father-in-law has one and although he is a careful scooter I do worry what would happen if he squashed a child with it or something.

Sebastian Cobb

One of my mates got his ankle panned in by an old biddy in a scooter. Her excuse 'sorry petal, I was petting me dog'.

Jockice

Quote from: paruses on February 11, 2020, 03:34:49 PM
Do you have insurance for it? As in liability insurance. This is not going to turn into some exchange where I am furious that "you could have killed someone and then what?" - I am genuinely interested if people get it, have to get it, or consider it. My ex-father-in-law has one and although he is a careful scooter I do worry what would happen if he squashed a child with it or something.

I do. With a specialist firm. Up to 5 million quid liability  Think that should cover it. I don't use it that often though. The scooter that is, not the insurance. It's in the back of my car but I tend to drive most places. The reason I use it to go to the dentist is that the front entrance is up a flight of stairs and the 'accessible' entrance at the back is impossible to get up unless you have some power or someone pushing you. Or if it's a nice day I'll sometimes go round town on it. Most places I park are within wheeling myself distance or I have someone else with me to do all the hard work though.

a young female cyclist shot straight across a road from between parked cars in front of me last week. She's very lucky I didn't hit her. I had to do an actual emergency stop. And another (male) cyclist tried to spit on me through my car window once because I'd dared to turn right onto an otherwise empty road when he was at least 200 metres from me. He missed though. The useless cunt.

gilbertharding

Look.

There is, in the world, no shortage of cunts, arseholes and wankers. We all know this. Probably every other person you meet is, if not a professional, full-time cunt, arsehole or wanker, will be able to do a pretty decent impression of one at the drop of a hat.

Why is there this argument about whether it's worse when they're dawdling about on a shared use footpath, or riding a bike or driving a car?

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: gilbertharding on February 11, 2020, 04:19:22 PM
Look.

There is, in the world, no shortage of cunts, arseholes and wankers. We all know this. Probably every other person you meet is, if not a professional, full-time cunt, arsehole or wanker, will be able to do a pretty decent impression of one at the drop of a hat.

Why is there this argument about whether it's worse when they're dawdling about on a shared use footpath, or riding a bike or driving a car?

That sounds like something a prick would say!

gilbertharding

I wanted it on a motivational poster, but 'Live Laugh Love' is more pithy.


Jockice

Quote from: gilbertharding on February 11, 2020, 04:19:22 PM
Look.

There is, in the world, no shortage of cunts, arseholes and wankers. We all know this. Probably every other person you meet is, if not a professional, full-time cunt, arsehole or wanker, will be able to do a pretty decent impression of one at the drop of a hat.

Why is there this argument about whether it's worse when they're dawdling about on a shared use footpath, or riding a bike or driving a car?

Totally agree. And I speak as someone with a vast experience of cunts.


Shoulders?-Stomach!

Cyclists deserve more slack as unlike paths and roads, humanity has decided this mode of transport shouldn't have very many routes the users can enjoy exclusively.

But then they're so twatty sometimes. Last weekend there were three riding abreast taking up most of a lane and refusing to go in single file to let a queue of cars past. If you escalate continually this is the passive aggression you will provoke.