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The Trip to Greece
« on: February 21, 2020, 10:12:19 PM »
Another one from Coogan/Brydon/Winterbottom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB0Wj5yg2NE or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFWF1Uv61g for fuck all info.

Bored of watching them eat and jibe each other? Worried they are running out of impersonations? Secretly wishing they would finish in a country more befitting their style of melancholic wit and charm, like say Ireland?

The first season is still my favourite I suppose but every season has it's moments: Michael Bublé, Wogan, John Hurt. I think I'm looking forward to it...

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2020, 01:12:59 AM »
The Trip to Spain was underwhelming (if only for that fucking ending), but I still revisit the first two for near-meditative bleakness. IFC release them as “movies” over in the US, but having watched both versions of all of them, I think they do a pretty judicial job cutting them down. I can’t think of a time I’ve really missed a bit from the TV episodes, anyway.

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 01:19:56 AM »
Secretly wishing they would finish in a country more befitting their style of melancholic wit and charm, like say Ireland?

They seem wedded to the idea of it being holiday TV, but they definitely should go somewhere less sunny.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2020, 02:11:17 AM »
The Trip to Spain was underwhelming (if only for that fucking ending)

What the hell was that stupid ending? Presumably they have to sort that out first.

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They seem wedded to the idea of it being holiday TV, but they definitely should go somewhere less sunny.

The whole sailing in the sun shtick is a bit meh. Ireland would be perfect. Plenty of bleak weather and artistic/literary locales. Full circle, more or less.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2020, 02:23:47 AM »
Similarly, given that they've done Coogan's patch in the north-west of England, i'd like them to do one in Wales.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2020, 04:08:39 AM »
I’d like them to do the West Midlands but I imagine it’s an easier sell to Steve/Rob/the crew to go somewhere sunny.

Is the ending from the Trip to Spain considered canon? A lost Steve Coogan being kidnapped in North Africa? I can’t remember if that happened or not. Might have made it up.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2020, 04:13:27 AM »
Let’s hope it was just another dream.

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2020, 04:14:50 AM »
Calm down Cathy Dennis

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 04:29:42 AM »
I hope they will end up murdering each other

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 08:09:40 AM »
What the hell was that stupid ending? Presumably they have to sort that out first.

I hope they just make no mention of it. It was far too jarring and added nothing to an already patchy third series.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2020, 09:02:21 AM »
I'd like them to do one every 3 years until one of them dies. Don't care where.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2020, 03:57:45 PM »
I hope they just make no mention of it. It was far too jarring and added nothing to an already patchy third series.

It was mentioned in the This Morning interview in the OP, so it seems they are going to address it in some way at least, be interesting to see what they come up with. Last series was a big step down from the first two for me, felt like it was getting a bit stale, hopefully they will mix things up a bit more this time, e.g. not having Claire Keelan and that photographer lady turning up for an episode yet again would be good. Although obviously given the format it's difficult to change things too much.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2020, 04:55:15 PM »
The first two series work as mirrors of each other.

Series one: north of England, winter, cold, wet; Coogan frustrated with his Hollywood career, sleeping around; Rob happy but conscious of being small-time; Dudley, elfin sexuality. Literary themes: Romantic poets and their relationship with fame and family. Key line: "I'm fucking brilliant!"

Series two: Italy, summer, sunny, hot; Coogan more comfortable with his lot in life, connecting with his son; Rob getting a Hollywood film role, sleeping around. Literary themes: Romantic poets and their relationship with death. Key line: "I don't think we've ever been this old, Rog."

Series three is just more of the same but in a hot country again.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2020, 05:25:14 PM »
I didn't mind the ending of Spain. It was just popping that luxurious bubble he had existed in on these trips; staying in posh hotels and dining on the finest prepared food in the world. Obviously, nothing bad happened to him as we now have The Trip To Greece. 

From an interview:

Winterbottom was forced to explain the ending after a screening of the film at New York’s Tribeca Film festival earlier this year.

“It’s a tricky ending, I think,” Winterbottom said, according to Vulture.

“They talk quite a lot about Don Quixote and Sancho Panza, so it is like a version of that.”

Don Quixote is a novel by Spanish author Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra that follows a man on a mission to right the wrongs of the world alongside his sidekick Sancho Panza.

“[T]here’s a running thing that Steve imagines he’s gonna write this cultural book about Spain. He wants to have a life of action. He admires George Orwell because he went off fighting and he thinks he would fight. He admires Cervantes because he went off fighting, was kidnapped, and so on.”

Winterbottom explained this unconventional ending represented Coogan’s chance to “be a man of action”.

“All those liberal ideas, all this belief that he wants to be a man of action and really experience life – and suddenly he’s in the desert in a Muslim country and he sees four guys arriving and suddenly, he’s panicking, thinking, ‘S***, I’m actually gonna have an experience’.”

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2020, 05:51:41 PM »
Winterbottom explained this unconventional ending represented Coogan’s chance to “be a man of action”.

“All those liberal ideas, all this belief that he wants to be a man of action and really experience life – and suddenly he’s in the desert in a Muslim country and he sees four guys arriving and suddenly, he’s panicking, thinking, ‘S***, I’m actually gonna have an experience’.”[/i]

That sounds very post-hoc. Basically I think they didn't have much of an arc for the series, so they ended it on a random cliffhanger to avoid it just fizzling out.

Thinking about it, Trip to Spain really is like a soft reboot of Trip to Italy. It would have been better if they went somewhere totally different for series three. If they went to the USA, for instance, there would be a whole new set of things to talk about, new scenery, different car, etc. They could be discussing Whitman and Thoreau and all that lot. Or the Beats (if they must). Then for the 4th series they could go to somewhere in Asia. Again, totally different food, setting, and literature. India would be good, as you'd have the empire connection (Kipling, etc).

I still like the Trip to Spain, but it's nowhere near as satisfying as the other two.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2020, 12:00:07 AM »
Not to make a habit of linking inane youtube videos but... find out which Trip is Steve's favourite here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRAtsEKjH1k

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2020, 12:03:29 AM »
can't wait

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2020, 01:34:40 AM »
Not to make a habit of linking inane youtube videos but... find out which Trip is Steve's favourite here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRAtsEKjH1k

That wasn't inane at all, he was quite engaging. Thanks for the link.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2020, 02:07:26 AM »
I'd like them to do one every 3 years until one of them dies. Don't care where.

No I'm not fussed where they die either.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2020, 02:10:22 AM »
I think they should make a point of dying at the end of each series.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2020, 02:13:39 AM »
I’d like them to do the West Midlands

Writes itself.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2020, 08:13:16 AM »
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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2020, 04:36:27 PM »
That wasn't inane at all, he was quite engaging. Thanks for the link.

Yeah, was alright actually. Looks like he enjoyed the MMM clip the most. Good.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2020, 09:29:34 AM »
This starts tonight on Sky One, but every episode is now available to download on Sky’s catchup thing, Now TV etc.

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2020, 09:38:21 AM »
I remember reading a few responses to the Spain ending on right-wing weird websites, the general sense being that Coogan is an example of failed masculinity and an enervated Western civilisation, threatened by the spectre of barbarism and ISIS. Coogan, cucked (his wife is on holiday with her new boyfriend, which Coogan is paying for (or at least was in Italy)), unable to handle his son having impregnated a woman, hamstrung by the breakdown of the traditional family unit.

Crackers eh.

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2020, 08:55:25 AM »
Is this "available" anywhere for those of us without access to Sky?

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2020, 09:03:55 AM »
Is this "available" anywhere for those of us without access to Sky?

I wouldn't really know but you could try reddit's UKTVLAND

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2020, 10:14:35 AM »
Best one by far. The twist at the end knocked the stuffing out of me!

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Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2020, 10:23:19 AM »
actually haven't watched this

Re: The Trip to Greece
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2020, 12:43:42 PM »
Is this "available" anywhere for those of us without access to Sky?

https://help.nowtv.com/article/free-trial

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