Fucking playground politics

[Shit Good Nose]

GAWWW!

Just had a call from Mrs Nose.  Apparently at breaktime yesterday little Nose and one of her friends went up to two of their other friends who were (apparently) talking about them and every time little Nose and her friend went up to them they stopped and started laughing.  Little Nose apparently just brushed it off and didn't really care, but her other friend was in tears and her mum has got in touch with the head who then spoke to their class teacher, and now all the parents of the involved kids have to go in for a meeting after school.

To complicate matters, this has also now led to controversy with little Nose's birthday party and one of the other kid's birthday party as well because the other kids and their parents are getting all uppity about not going to the parties that have already been planned and paid for.

Whatever happened to just having a scrap in the field after school and then forgetting about it?!??!?!


And yes, I know - peodo thread.

[Fambo Number Mive]

I don't know how old the children concerned are, but it might be a good lesson for the two other kids that being unpleasant to other people should have consequences (i.e. not being able to go to the birthday parties.

Of course, it often doesn't have consequences for adults so perhaps not that good a life lesson.

[momatt]

...which is why Little Nose lost their job as head teacher.

[Shit Good Nose]

I don't know how old the children concerned are, but it might be a good lesson for the two other kids that being unpleasant to other people should have consequences (i.e. not being able to go to the birthday parties.

Of course, it often doesn't have consequences for adults so perhaps not that good a life lesson.

They're all 9 and 10.


I don't know what was said (and neither does little Nose or her friend who was crying, but that's probs why little Nose just shrugged it off and didn't say anything to us) and it may not have even been unpleasant, maybe just something these other two friends wanted to keep private between themselves.  Either way, I think calling everyone in for an after school meeting is, perhaps, a bit overkill when maybe it should just be all the kids involved being talked to by their teacher and kept in at break or something, at least in the first instance.

And the impression I've got third hand from Mrs Nose about the withdrawal of birthday party attendance was more to do with the parents of the other kids getting funny about the accusations, rather than as a punishment for the kids.

I expect they were just talking/arguing about who was better out of Patrick Troughton and Tom Baker, or whether Smokie were more respectable than Black Lace.

[Blumf]

...and now all the parents of the involved kids have to go in for a meeting after school.

For compulsory Corona Virus infections.

[Shit Good Nose]

For compulsory Corona Virus infections.

Two weeks of "working from home".  Not too shabby.  I'll stay for longer.

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

To settle this I think you should fight the parents of the children on the opposing side. Or fight the children. Park at 4 pm tomorrow OK? Don't get twatted and show us up.

[Sin Agog]

My half-sister (also 9) out in Lithuania has no friends whatsoever, mostly because her parents are social mals and figure she should just be content with clubs/them.  Last time I spoke to her she said that some uppity cunt named Agla went up to her and some other girl on a bench and said, "[Other girl], let's go play... Not her, though" leaving Lily to languish alone.  Agla did, however, once allow Lily to play with her when her other pals were off school. "Just remember, I'm only allowing you to play with me for this one day.  Don't get used to it or anything." 

I offered to put a hit out on Agla, but Lily said that her axiomatic displeasure with her would make her too obvious a suspect, and if the cops came to her door it would only be the done thing to out me rather than herself, what with her life being full of hope and possibilities and mine being full of ennui and intestinal pain.

[Noonling]

Apparently at breaktime yesterday little Nose and one of her friends went up to two of their other friends who were (apparently) talking about them and every time little Nose and her friend went up to them they stopped and started laughing.  Little Nose apparently just brushed it off and didn't really care, but her other friend was in tears and her mum has got in touch with the head who then spoke to their class teacher, and now all the parents of the involved kids have to go in for a meeting after school.

Is this something that only happened on one day, or a frequently repeated thing? Because if the former that really seems like overkill and I imagine could make things worse - increasing tension between parent and child, as well as child and child. If its a pattern then fair enough I guess? I don't understand parenting, or children, or bullying, or life.

[Cuellar]

Find a recently bereaved local journalist and convince him to go up to the school gates during playtime and threaten the offending kids with a hammer.

[Pingers]

My half-sister (also 9) out in Lithuania has no friends whatsoever, mostly because her parents are social mals and figure she should just be content with clubs/them.  Last time I spoke to her she said that some uppity cunt named Agla went up to her and some other girl on a bench and said, "[Other girl], let's go play... Not her, though" leaving Lily to languish alone.  Agla did, however, once allow Lily to play with her when her other pals were off school. "Just remember, I'm only allowing you to play with me for this one day.  Don't get used to it or anything."

I offered to put a hit out on Agla, but Lily said that her axiomatic displeasure with her would make her too obvious a suspect, and if the cops came to her door it would only be the done thing to out me rather than herself, what with her life being full of hope and possibilities and mine being full of ennui and intestinal pain.

Love this post

[Sebastian Cobb]

I think little nose has to fabricate rumours about one of them being an antisemite now.

[Shit Good Nose]

To settle this I think you should fight the parents of the children on the opposing side. Or fight the children. Park at 4 pm tomorrow OK? Don't get twatted and show us up.

Fuck that - they are ALL bigger than me.  Including the mums.  Although the mum of one of them has just had some form of correction surgery on one of her knees, so she's my best chance.  She's quite amazonian, so normally she towers over me.  I don't see this as beating up a disabled.  I see this as making it a fair fight.

(she'll still have me I reckon)

[Shit Good Nose]

Is this something that only happened on one day, or a frequently repeated thing? Because if the former that really seems like overkill and I imagine could make things worse - increasing tension between parent and child, as well as child and child. If its a pattern then fair enough I guess? I don't understand parenting, or children, or bullying, or life.

Oh, they have petty little squabbles (i stress the words "petty", "little" and "squabbles") all the time - almost on a weekly basis - but it's always sorted out and/or forgotten by the next day.  It's just in this case one of them cried (as I said without actually knowing what the other two were saying) which got her mum angry.

Kids.  Can't kill em

Find a recently bereaved local journalist and convince him to go up to the school gates during playtime and threaten the offending kids with a hammer.

oh.

[Shit Good Nose]

So this fucking meeting is happening in just over two hours - what should I expect?  Being told off like a child?  Forced to workshop/roleplay with the other parents in order to "understand" it from the kids' point of view?  A big WWF style wrestling match and the last parent standing is the winner?

[Pingers]

Whatever the outcome is, I think we would all agree that the most important thing is that it's good CaB fodder

[Shit Good Nose]

Whatever the outcome is, I think we would all agree that the most important thing is that it's good CaB fodder

But what if it's not?  What if it just ends up being their teacher telling us what happened and suggesting what we can do at home to help/stop it from happening?  That'll be REALLY boring.  You're all hoping for Orgy Thread 2: The Second Cumming, but this'll fizzle out more like my IRA mate at work thread.

And then I'll have to post in the guilty thread.

So much pressure.

[Twit 2]

...

[Shit Good Nose]

Well, that was...interesting.

Okay, so basically this

My advice is to stay the fuck out of it as much as possible, less is more. Children need the tools to get on with each other, to resolve their own problems as much as possible and to be able to experience a certain amount of conflict in order to be prepared for the future.

however there is a little more to it.

The reason we were all called in was because the "ringleader" (whose parents weren't actually in attendance) in all this has also (apparently) been bullying other kids as well (teach was very careful to make sure we understood it was "low level" primary school bullying - so teasing and not letting others join in games and stuff like that, rather than flushing their head down the shitter and then throwing them down the bank and such, but also she acknowledged that "bullying is bullying"), but it's complicated because it all seems to stem from her parents going through a divorce (before they separated she was good as gold and one of the top students in the year) and both of them moving away from the locality, taking her away from her friends and other family, so the theory is that this is all manifesting itself in her being a bit mean to others.

The school is "working on it" and they've engaged third party help from some specialists or summat, but they've said that this could go on for a while as final custody has not been settled (she's currently doing a week with mum, a week with dad, a week with grandparents, etc etc) and both parents are currently staying in rented accommodation (one in Bath, the other in Shepton Mallet).

Little Nose didn't know about any of this, but we all feel sorry for the kid as she is moving around different places every week, her family life is in turmoil, she doesn't know which parent she's going to end up staying most of her time with and, well, she is only 9 years old.

So yeah, it's a case of playing nice and letting her play with them if she wants to, but any time she starts getting funny or whatever they must ignore her (as in not reacting), walk away and tell a teacher immediately.  Fortunately, in a weird way, there are a LOT of kids with divorced parents and single parent kids as well (as there seems to be more and more of these days), so they all know and understand what it means.


Sorry - not Orgy Thread 2...

[Twit 2]

Ah, sounds like it's all in hand, then.

[pancreas]

I think you should beat your child for allowing themselves to be involved in all this hoo-ha.

[Shit Good Nose]

Ah, sounds like it's all in hand, then.

Summat like that, yeah.

I think you should beat your child for allowing themselves to be involved in all this hoo-ha.

Sent her up the chimney with no supper.