Doctor Who Series 12B: The Timeless Chibnall (Xmas special & pre-Series 13 chat)

[Thomas]

So, from the final scene of Series 12, what do we know about Revolution of the Daleks? Only that the Doctor is in prison, and so the companions are on their own.

However, after seven months, two brand new promo images released at the New York Comic-Con reveal more! Namely that the Doctor is in prison:[nb]She's actually totting up the number of pre-Hartnell Doctors. Remember that neat twist? Don't forget it![/nb]



And the companions are on their own:



Exciting pics!

[Thomas]

Double-post bastard, but look, in that second image, at how even set and costume designed are 100% geared toward assisting the teal-and-orange filter. Such a strange new constraint. It happens across most TV dramas now. I recall that every item in every room of the otherwise mostly-very-good Bodyguard was blue or orange.

Orange walls, orange furniture, blue clothes, orange-and-blue rug, orange-and-blue curtains - even orange and blue in the post-it notes and receipts on the orange tabletop. It's dull innit? It limits the look of the show's entire world (as it does in most afflicted productions - but Doctor Who especially is tasked with showcasing the visual breadth of the entire universe).

I imagine the reds and the greys in the prison scenes will similarly service the ubiquitous colour grading. Watch out for teal lighting strips and lens flare.

[Malcy]

Been a lot of talk about

Spoiler alert

Ruth

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recently so I'm wondering will they appear. Also

Spoiler alert

Barrowman was spotted on set for the special

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so apart from it being about Daleks and this synopsis

"The upcoming festive special will see the return of one of the Doctor's biggest and most feared enemies – the Daleks," the new synopsis reads. "The Doctor is locked away in a high-security alien prison. Isolated, alone, with no hope of escape.

"Far away, on Earth, her best friends, Yaz, Ryan and Graham have to pick up their lives without her. But it's not easy. Old habits die hard. Especially when they discover a disturbing plan forming. A plan which involves a Dalek. How can you fight a Dalek, without the Doctor?"

There's still not much known. Trailer next month probably.

The Daleks series has a trailer and a clip out.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oaEvHnMPeH4&t=0s

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4aHYlfA4E&t=0s

[daf]

Oh Jeeeesus, the Daleks AGAIN!?

It's like as if The Beatles insisted on putting a version of 'Love Me Do' on every sodding album!

[Mister Six]

What was the final scene of series 12? I remember The Doctor running off while a bloke topped himself using a plastic Cyberman toy and that's it.

[Malcy]

What was the final scene of series 12? I remember The Doctor running off while a bloke topped himself using a plastic Cyberman toy and that's it.

Judoon appeared in the TARDIS & locked the Doctor up in a prison.

[Mister Six]

Absolutely no recollection of that whatsoever. So sad.

[Replies From View]

Despite the long gaps I don't think I have ever given less of a shit about my once-favourite show.


I'll probably watch it but to be honest it's not guaranteed.  I'd rather wait until someone announces the new nonsense backstory has been retconned away or another showrunner / head writer steps in and ignores it all.

Can't be fussed with experiencing first hand the undramatic, expository journey leading to that point.  I can get the same experience reading the Wikipedia summaries if I need to.

[Replies From View]

The Daleks series has a trailer and a clip out.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oaEvHnMPeH4&t=0s

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4aHYlfA4E&t=0s

Depending on how effectively they animate non-Daleks this may be how I experience Doctor Who for the time being.  This and the Classic Who animation releases.  Chibnall brings nothing.

[Mister Six]

If anything, he removes.

[Replies From View]

If anything, he removes.

Definitely.  Adding unnecessary character origin exposition subtracts from the mystery of the show, its atmosphere and wonder.  Adding what will probably amount to four or five Chibnall series to RTD and Moffat's continuity subtracts by diluting the existing brilliance of what is there (even taking into account RTD and Moffat's own misfires), just as piling more and more seasons of Zombie Simpsons into the mix shrinks the percentage of brilliant Simpsons down every year.  It's not an additive process.

[Malcy]

Weeping Angels VR game coming. Has Osgood and that bloke from the video shop in Blink. I forget his name.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y20ohRYUKv8

[Replies From View]

Tennant and Whittaker crossover in it too.

[VelourSpirit]

Tennant genuinely feels like the incumbent Doctor right now, it's hilarious

[Malcy]

Tennant and Whittaker crossover in it too.

That's a separate game. The Whittaker/Tennant crossover comic was alright. Think they're getting another one as well.

[Replies From View]

That's a separate game.

Oh, okay.  Tennant's Doctor has a cameo at the end of the video you shared, for some reason.

[Malcy]

Oh, okay.  Tennant's Doctor has a cameo at the end of the video you shared, for some reason.

No, you're right, My mistake. It must have been uploaded straight after this one

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OyHi5uDUqIo&t

Which is the Weeping Angel one I meant to share originally but I copied the wrong link!

[kidsick5000]

I do wonder about the animation for Doctor Who projects.
Why is it always so simplistic? And why do people seem to love it, as though they've not seen anything animated since Captain Pugwash

[Alberon]

I do wonder about the animation for Doctor Who projects.
Why is it always so simplistic? And why do people seem to love it, as though they've not seen anything animated since Captain Pugwash

Money basically. And there are enough fans for this, since it is so cheap to make.

Big Finish being involved in the latest 60s reanimation DVDs, and making big changes to the visual design, leads me to think they're going to do animated new Doctor Who stories (as opposed to these spin offs). Though I can't see that much more money being put into each one than the reanimations.

[Malcy]

Next series is only going to be 8 episodes instead of 11 which means maybe 7 and a special or 8 and no special.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2020-11-11/doctor-who-chris-chibnall-cuts-news/

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SUCH MINUSCULE PORTIONS OF SHITE YOU ARE SERVING US, AMBASSADOR, AND SO VERY INFREQUENTLY


It's nothing to do with covid obviously, as if they can film 8 they can film 12.  Just the latest excuse in the gradual cutting back of episodes being made.  I bet Chibnall is sexually aroused by the thought of covid-related deaths because they mean he doesn't have to receive the same kind of blame Moffat was getting.


I wonder what price the DVD box set will be

[frajer]

Chibbers already thought 14 eps was too many, he must have been over the moon at getting it down from 11 to 8.

One for the (Doctor) Who's doing well out of the pandemic thread.

[Mister Six]

Eventually Doctor Who episode lengths will be in the minus figures, meaning viewers are made to submit their own lolrandom speeches about how "Benito Mussolini was a bad, bad man, but he liked Walnut Whips."

And it'll still be better than anything Chibnall can write.

[lipsink]

It's not up to Chibnalls though, is it?

I remember Moffat complaining about how people thought it was up to him how many episodes would go out each year.

[daf]

I wonder what price the DVD box set will be

Unless they actually pay me, I'm not touching anything after Capaldi with a bargepole!

[The Roofdog]

It's not up to Chibnalls though, is it?

I remember Moffat complaining about how people thought it was up to him how many episodes would go out each year.

Moffat was talking shite though. It wasn't "up to him" in the sense that he would tell them that he was going to spend the next 9 months making Sherlock and they would have to go "oh.... right then"

[M-CORP]

They're making less episodes, and I expect it still won't be out until late 2021, or (most likely) January 2022, which is when I've always assumed it will be out what with COVID. Really does feel like the endgame with them slowly winding down, COVID or no COVID - even before all this they were going to take a long break from March to September, and it now takes a whole year to make 10 episodes when they were previously able to churn out 14 episodes and spin offs in nine months IIRC.

Still, good news for us critics of the Chibnall era - less episodes to sit through, a quicker process, and less excuses for the writers, as they've had even more time to make less episodes. Look at what RTD and Moffat could achieve in shorter timeframes. Am I being too harsh?

[daf]

Fewer!!!!!

[M-CORP]

Please excuse my error. I can't write. Corrected below:

They're making a smaller amount of episodes...

[daf]

:)