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Re: Cricket thread 2020: executing our skillsets
« Reply #1260 on: January 23, 2021, 12:38:13 PM »
Anderson averaging below 21 in the last 50 tests.

Away average is 24 over that period.

First 38 year old seamer to ever take a 5fer in Asia (not surprising, that stat)

3 fivers in the last 6 away tests.

Longest gap between 1st 5fer and most recent one.


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« Reply #1261 on: January 23, 2021, 01:51:28 PM »
Forgotten until this tour how good Root can be.

He had a run of mediocre form last year but he’s always been a class apart, can score runs at a clip against any attack in any conditions and has no real weaknesses in his technique, but he has for a long time had a problem with pushing on and making dominant, result-forcing scores: his famous ”conversion rate” issue, which actually predates his test captaincy and arose, I think, when England started really taking ODIs seriously after the 2015 World Cup; his switching focus contributed to some concentration issues and unnecessary risk-taking, so he keeps throwing his wicket away after cruising serenely to 72.

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« Reply #1262 on: January 23, 2021, 02:03:56 PM »
best live knock I have ever seen was Root getting a double against PAK at Old Trafford. utterly chanceless. I think Root frustrates me more than any ENG test regular of this century actually.

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« Reply #1263 on: January 23, 2021, 03:05:49 PM »
I think he has always had a weakness on bouncy wickets when fending the ball off around shoulder height. It's a tiny chink in the armour for someone whose back foot play is really good normally.

Last few years his scoring rate in tests dropped quite a bit and seemed to go into survival mode, ending up getting out for 30s instead of 60s off the same number of balls. Normally he is the only player who can play a proper paced innings where he instinctively knows when to defend and when to attack, and what approach the bowlers least want him to take in any given spell.

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« Reply #1264 on: January 24, 2021, 09:09:03 AM »
There's your daily dose of Mickey Arthur getting het up about the actual rules of the game with which he has been involved professionally for over 30 years

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« Reply #1265 on: January 24, 2021, 09:10:41 AM »
Bloody hell that was big from Curran, some fisherman in the Maldives will find that in a tuna's stomach a couple of years from now

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« Reply #1266 on: January 24, 2021, 09:15:28 AM »
Oh ffs

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« Reply #1267 on: January 24, 2021, 10:57:31 AM »
Bloody hell that was big from Curran, some fisherman in the Maldives will find that in a tuna's stomach a couple of years from now

No fucking way is he a number 7 though.

The absurd thing is that when Stokes is back they'll probably drop a specialist batsman.

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« Reply #1268 on: January 24, 2021, 10:59:42 AM »
Tim de Lisle's piece in the Graun yesterday about the pains of rotation was pretty pessimistic stuff.

I do think we look fairly rubbish at the moment, aside from our two generational greats.

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« Reply #1269 on: January 24, 2021, 11:06:59 AM »
Curran was making a good first impression when batting when he first came into the side. But he hasn't been able to repeat that for a while. He's still capable of posting a reasonable total for a lower order batsman, and he just has this tendency to get an important wicket from nowhere, so you want to keep him around, even though statistically he doesn't seem to bring a lot, but there's others you could argue for over him. It does also seem worth persisting with him though, because as one of the youngest so he's got the years to get better. Tricky one.

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« Reply #1270 on: January 24, 2021, 11:30:57 AM »
Thing with Curran is he doesn't seem to have improved since he first broke into the side 2-3 years ago. He is yeah a number 8 batsman, good at the hitting and scoring but not so much the defending against quality attacks, but for all his knack of getting useful wickets his bowling isn't up to test level consistently enough. There hasn't been any sign that he's worked on upping his pace or adding more variety to his deliveries.

I suspect Woakes will come in for him in India, with Stokes and Pope back in for Bairstow and Lawrence. Archer for Wood and either a spinner left out or Broad and Anderson continuing to rotate.

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« Reply #1271 on: January 24, 2021, 11:37:58 AM »
I think Moeen will play in India.

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« Reply #1272 on: January 24, 2021, 11:40:13 AM »
I've been working today, turned on TMS for the first time today and the next delivery Bess edged it and is gone.

I'll turn it off now, apologies.

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« Reply #1273 on: January 24, 2021, 11:42:10 AM »
I swear the amount of times you have a close call that goes to a review, then a couple of balls later, it's out anyway. Shite.

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« Reply #1274 on: January 24, 2021, 11:45:55 AM »
I think Moeen will play in India.

Oh yeah, forgot about him. Easy to do when he hasn’t actually played any first-class cricket since he was dropped 18 months ago for being shit at first-class cricket.

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« Reply #1275 on: January 24, 2021, 11:46:05 AM »
Whatever happens from here, Crawley and Sibley need to do their fucking jobs in the 2nd innings, because Root isn't giving another one of these.

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« Reply #1276 on: January 24, 2021, 12:04:36 PM »
Looking forward to the classic Anderson edge first ball of the day tomorrow. I'll let him off if he takes another 6fer.

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« Reply #1277 on: January 24, 2021, 12:13:15 PM »
I mean fair enough to Root really, he is still on the hentai programme to get him off the noncing.

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« Reply #1278 on: January 24, 2021, 12:45:42 PM »
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There hasn't been any sign that he's worked on upping his pace

He's so small for a pace bowler (5ft 9) and yet looks even smaller some how. Compare to Tim Bresnan who was about 5ft 10 but his action and runup made him look taller. Curran's natural action is very side arm and it doesn't seem to have much scope for tweaking, I wonder where that extra pace would actually come from.

It's not an enormous issue, Vaas didn't have pace but took plenty of wickets. Zaheer Khan likewise. If he concentrates on accuracy and disguising his variations there's a career there.

Definitely not a number 7 batsman at the minute. A slogger and dangerous at 8.

I think you're looking at someone who is going to average 24 with the bat and 36 with the ball, a bit too little and a bit too much.

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« Reply #1279 on: January 24, 2021, 12:47:49 PM »
As for the match situation, grave. Everyone seems pretty upbeat, and we are in a slightly better situation than I expected, but chasing anything above 170 on this with 2 openers that basically can't get a run here, 2 wicket keepers who the media say have succeeded when they pass 25, a batsman playing his 2nd ever test, a number 7 who is a number 8, a number 8 who is a number 9, and 1 in form batsman who seems to have crippled himself contributing 60% of the entire team's total is going to be a very tall order.

I reckon SL will post 190 and we will get bowled out for 150, and lose by 80 odd runs.

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« Reply #1280 on: January 24, 2021, 01:09:27 PM »
Either way in India I think we’re FUCKED lads.

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« Reply #1281 on: January 24, 2021, 01:22:29 PM »
Oh for sure. If we're lucky they're might be one game where Stokes wins it singlehandedly, but I wouldn't put money on it.

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« Reply #1282 on: January 25, 2021, 06:03:06 AM »
Is the pitch doing a bit? Oh yes.

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« Reply #1283 on: January 25, 2021, 06:28:14 AM »
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« Reply #1284 on: January 25, 2021, 07:18:50 AM »
70-7.


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« Reply #1285 on: January 25, 2021, 07:34:39 AM »
Shouldn't you have to catch it one-handed if it bounces up off the foot?

Anything over 100 is going to be an ask on this pitch. Rumour has it Crawley and Sibley are unavailable to open as they have been placed on house arrest in their hotel rooms pending police technicians' searches of "suspicious material" found there.

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« Reply #1286 on: January 25, 2021, 07:35:54 AM »
Has it ever happened that all ten wickets in one innings have been taken by seamers, and all ten in the other by spinners? Could well be on for that here.

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« Reply #1287 on: January 25, 2021, 07:49:49 AM »
Classic England this, get them to 78/8 then let the rabbits pile the runs on. This is now the biggest partnership of the innings and Embuldeniya is 3 off his career highest first-class score.

Might be worth just putting Anderson on to get rid of these.

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« Reply #1288 on: January 25, 2021, 07:55:42 AM »
We now need 150+ to win.

Ain't happening.

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« Reply #1289 on: January 25, 2021, 08:13:58 AM »
We now need 150+ to win.

Ain't happening.

Though to be fair a guy with a test batting average of 5 just scored 40.

England to be 32/7 by lunch.

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