Author Topic: Genesis P-Orridge has died  (Read 2419 times)


BlodwynPig

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2020, 09:55:48 PM »
A great

Dewt

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2020, 09:57:04 PM »

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2020, 10:09:34 PM »
Genuinely shocked by this news. RIP to a legend of music, a true inspiration to me

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2020, 10:19:47 PM »
A genuine eccentric and pioneer.

And responsible of course for the greatest 45 ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPa5TTndHc

RIP

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2020, 10:26:41 PM »
RIP

Dewt

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2020, 10:28:25 PM »
And responsible of course for the greatest 45 ever.
A delightful interview here about the meaning behind that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwlKMK_eGs

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2020, 11:24:33 PM »
A very kind, gentle, caring soul. I’ll remember s/him best for the Breezeblock sessions s/he did with Cosi Fanni Tutti.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2020, 11:31:19 PM »
A true original, the likes of whom come along very rarely. RIP.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2020, 11:32:49 PM »
Aww.  Saw Throbbing Gristle once at Heaven Under the Arches.  I temporarily lost my mind and forgot to bring earplugs.  When I found myself edged towards the speakers, the only thing to do was whip a fiver out of my wallet and fashion expensive single-use earplugs out of it.

$W&G

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2020, 12:15:25 AM »

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2020, 01:00:54 AM »
A very kind, gentle, caring soul. I’ll remember s/him best for the Breezeblock sessions s/he did with Cosi Fanni Tutti.

I laughed, you droll bastard.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2020, 06:05:21 AM »
I'll remember him for being a complete arsehole to Cosey Fanni Tutti ( as detailed in her possibly biased autobiography) , for moving music journo Danny Kelly to grass him up to the authorities, as he was genuinely concerned about some of his more dodgy behaviour, and for looking a bit like Giles Brandreth. Last night, I Didn't listen to " 20 Jazz Funk Greats" in his honour, in keeping with not listening to that album, and probably never will.

In fairness though, he was quite the innovator, an artist truly committed and devoted to his art, and an artist who suffered for his art (and then it was your turn). I mean, he lived in Hull for a number of years.
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Dewt

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2020, 06:19:09 AM »
Pronounn is s/he, for future reference.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2020, 07:05:49 AM »
https://pitchfork.com/news/genesis-breyer-p-orridge-dead-at-70/?utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_brand=p4k&utm_source=facebook&mbid=social_facebook



I like how they get a bit carried away and refer to yer woman Cosey Fanni Tutti as " H/er" in that obit. Just hope Graham Linehan doesn't read that piece, he'll go into conniptions, so he will.

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2020, 07:50:45 AM »
Imagine someone like Genesis P-Orridge (or a 'band' like Throbbing Gristle) emerging today. I can't imagine it would be possible. The meaning of art, fame, irony, self-promotion etc. have all changed way too much. Is that a bad thing? Fuck knows.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2020, 09:18:04 AM »
By all means a bit of a cunt, but still a fascinating, engaging and intelligent human being.

Partly responsible (although s/he'd would have probably tried to gain all the credit) for two of my favourites clips on YouTube.

Psychic TV - Unclean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzR0iIzMNU

Throbbing Gristle - Discipline -  San Francisco Kezar Pavillion 29 March 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeVHIQT-onU

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2020, 11:18:09 AM »
For someone who doesn't know all that much about him beyond a few tunes and the who police thing, why was he a cunt?

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2020, 11:56:44 AM »
From reviews of Cosey's book. No reason not to believe her.

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There’s a mordant humor to Tutti’s accounts of P-Orridge’s alleged regular assaults, which worsen when she leaves h/er for Carter. Tutti writes that P-Orridge strangles her, kicks her vagina, and tries to stab her, and the scene snaps from horror to farce when she accidentally runs P-Orridge over. Later, s/he allegedly throws a cinderblock at Tutti's head from a balcony. (P-Orridge hasn’t responded publicly to the allegations in the book.) But Tutti’s withering accounts of h/er petulance might be more damning to h/er significant legacy in alternative music.

http://www.mtv.com/news/3014200/cosey-fanni-tutti-art-sex-music/

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Fanni Tutti recalls a series of alleged incidents in Art Sex Music, all denied by P-Orridge to the New York Times: how P-Orridge threw a concrete block at her head from a balcony, apparently aiming to kill her, and missed. How she allegedly pressured Fanni Tutti into frequent unprotected sex, which led her to seek an abortion. How she ran at her with a knife after Fanni Tutti threatened to end their relationship. How P-Orridge appointed herself chief supervisor of COUM’s frequent orgies and expected Fanni Tutti to have sex with various friends “instigated by and shared with [P-Orridge]”. There are repeat alleged incidences of P-Orridge forcing Fanni Tutti out of their shared living space.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/dec/10/genesis-p-orridge-throbbing-gristle

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2020, 12:04:41 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1238933390973427713

Twitter cuntery in a nutshell. No thought for what the intent was. No thought that Ronson might not be aware of the abuse. Just attack from the off

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2020, 12:42:35 PM »
Huge fan of TG, but perhaps because Porridge is such a cunt, I drifted towards Coil and Carter & Cosey during the 80s and 90s. I also saw them at those Heaven gigs, which is something I am very grateful for. Seeing Sleazy bashing away at his sound fx boxes, Carter silently working through his tape loops, and Cosey playing her cornet through an echo unit. Wonderful.

Yes, P-orridge was clearly not a nice person, but holy fuck, the media crucifixion was brutal after that turgid documentary which exploded into a media witchhunt.

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2020, 01:04:10 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1238933390973427713

Twitter cuntery in a nutshell. No thought for what the intent was. No thought that Ronson might not be aware of the abuse. Just attack from the off

Ronson typing :-( at the end of his RIP message. I suppose it's better than boo hoo.

BlodwynPig

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2020, 01:19:56 PM »
My first experience of Orridge was on his collaboration with Nik Turner, which was unsettling at the time, not knowing anything about him. But thanks to that, I discovered an interest in Psychic TV and Throbbing Gristle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajvQpqKlwTY&feature=emb_logo

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2020, 04:30:30 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1238933390973427713

Twitter cuntery in a nutshell. No thought for what the intent was. No thought that Ronson might not be aware of the abuse. Just attack from the off

I wonder why she picked on Jon? (Insert that chin stroking emoji)

And later that evening tells people to watch the Miles Davis doc, and posts afterwards:

'genius . All the darkness is there but my god he changed everything,'

She is just the fucking pits.

Dewt

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2020, 04:32:30 PM »
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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2020, 04:45:09 PM »
I wonder why she picked on Jon? (Insert that chin stroking emoji)

And later that evening tells people to watch the Miles Davis doc, and posts afterwards:

'genius . All the darkness is there but my god he changed everything,'

She is just the fucking pits.

The sheer hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness of these arseholes is staggering.

Ronson, clearly, was paying tribute to a musician he admires, he wasn't endorsing Orridge's abusive behaviour (which he was completely unaware of anyway).

Gah. Twitter is a cesspit.

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2020, 05:02:52 PM »
Moore's just another sneering, above-it-all boot from the guardian isn't she?

BlodwynPig

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2020, 05:37:44 PM »
Moore's just another sneering, above-it-all boot from the guardian isn't she?

35 years and still going strong. 35 years marking the time I actually fancied her before she turned into mad cat lady about 20 years ago

Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2020, 05:42:48 PM »
I wonder why she picked on Jon? (Insert that chin stroking emoji)


And the target of her ire was transgender...

Lisa Jesusandmarychain

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Re: Genesis P-Orridge has died
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »
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Don't worry about yr.  original msg , Dewt, I didn't take offence.

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