The worst responses to the coronavirus

[Kankurette]

Exactly, love how these clowns start piping up about "minority groups" whenever they can somehow shoehorn it into their own agenda, and yet are happy to rub shoulders with openly racist sexist ableist wingnuts.

Also the framing of that is so disingenuous; yeah it's true that vaccine uptake (not only the COVID vaccine) is often lower among some BAME communities - why not look into why that is, rather than just ahh you see, vaccines = discrimination? Do these people actually give a fuck about minority groups having equal opportunities oorrrr are they just weaponising existing inequalities in order to push fear of vaccines?

And LOL at anyone genuinely thinking the government has only been shitting on the vulnerable for ONE YEAR. Because everyone knows right up until 2020, Britain was a socialist utopia. (I know they don't actually believe this either, obvs)

Yep. If the Monk and people like him cared about marginalised groups, they'd stop hanging around with racists (since the anti-mask movement includes twats like Katie Hopkins and Lozza, and there's a LOT of Trumpers as well) and antisemites for a start. But they won't.

And yes, the Tories NEVER gave a single gnat's bollock about the disabled. There's a reason why I'm terrified of my fibro becoming so bad that I can't work. One of my stepdad's mates had a fucking stroke, is partially blind and has mobility issues, and he got his benefits stopped. Same with a friend of my mum's who couldn't work due to severe back pain. Her benefits got stopped. You get the idea. Johnson, Javid et al make it very clear that they think disabled people are DISPOSABLE.

[monkfromhavana]

Monk, with all due respect, shut up. You don't care about marginalised groups, you absolute fucking twat. None of you COVID deniers do. You're perfectly happy to treat disabled people like we're barely even human. The COVID crisis has shown just how many people think we're all disposable.

Had a bit of a panicky "What did I say??" moment there.

[Kankurette]

Had a bit of a panicky "What did I say??" moment there.

Not you <3

[SpiderChrist]

Quote from: jamiefairlie on Yesterday at 06:33:04 PM

Anyone who uses the word "designed" in the context of an organism is indeed a tosser.

Or religious?

Pretty much the same thing in my experience.

[flotemysost]

And yes, the Tories NEVER gave a single gnat's bollock about the disabled. There's a reason why I'm terrified of my fibro becoming so bad that I can't work. One of my stepdad's mates had a fucking stroke, is partially blind and has mobility issues, and he got his benefits stopped. Same with a friend of my mum's who couldn't work due to severe back pain. Her benefits got stopped. You get the idea. Johnson, Javid et al make it very clear that they think disabled people are DISPOSABLE.

Yep, a mate of mine's mum whose arthritis got so bad she can no longer drive (she lives on her own, up a hill) had her benefits stopped and now she can't afford to move either. This was in Cameron's initial round of austerity cuts, back in 2012 or so. *hugs* to you anyway Kankurette, I can't imagine how stressful that must be.

[Jockice]

Yep, a mate of mine's mum whose arthritis got so bad she can no longer drive (she lives on her own, up a hill) had her benefits stopped and now she can't afford to move either. This was in Cameron's initial round of austerity cuts, back in 2012 or so. *hugs* to you anyway Kankurette, I can't imagine how stressful that must be.

Yes, as someone who has never had any problems at all getting disability benefits but knows people who have (in fact someone close to me is in the process of applying it at the moment and is finding it a nightmare) I realise that it's often just the luck of the draw. Good luck Kankurette and anyone else who may have to go through it.

[Kankurette]

Luckily I'm still able to work. I just have to take breaks.

[monkfromhavana]

Was having a think about the anti-vaxxers who think that all the sheep that have taken the vaccine will be dead soon, whereas they will stay alive and prosper.

Surely if we're all compliant sheep being used for slave labour, they will want to keep us alive rather than kill us all and be left with all the anti-vax, free-thinking revolutionary guard?

[buttgammon]

Maybe they think it'll be some sort of karma for us? I know they're a smug bunch of twats but even so, do they really think being proven right is more important than having a functioning society? Of course, they've never thought about what happens after the vaccines kill everyone, because they're fucking morons.

[mothman]

Yes, which part of Brexit gave you the idea that lot might be grand masters at thinking things through? ;-)

[monkfromhavana]

Yes, which part of Brexit gave you the idea that lot might be grand masters at thinking things through? ;-)

Rewind back 2 years to when there was outrage at the rollout of very expensive face recognition software and how it was another example (for them) of the satanists taking over, so all free-thinkers should wear a mask.

6 months later:

"Forcing us to wear masks is an attempt by the satanist cult to deprive us of our liberty, don't wear a mask"

[mothman]

The only time the term "consistency" can be applied to them is when describing how thick they are.

[Kankurette]

Costa in Ireland have now stated that only vaccinated customers may drink in their cafes, and that they must carry and show proof of vaccination, as well as a form of photo ID. Unvaccinated people must sit outside with a takeaway cup.

I know that, this being MN, there will be triumphant cries of "choices have consequences!!" But I honestly don't know how ANYONE can think this is ok. Covid has a 98% survival rate. Even if it didn't, surely denying access to a service based on private medical information is simply morally wrong? And I KNOW, they're a business, it's up to them to choose who to serve legally, but morally? What if a member of your party is pregnant, unable to be vaccinated due to a medical condition, religious belief, or good old fashioned personal choice? Will you all sit in the warm over a hot coffee while they look through the window like the little match girl? Sounds dramatic, but this is now the reality. I don't even know why I'm bothering to post as it will no doubt be endless triumphant crowd of the same old "save lives!" "Selfish antivaxxers!" "Granny killer!" But I honestly cried when I saw that photo. What is next; yellow stars to indicate that you are a filthy, dirty unvaccinated? What on earth have we become?

From Mumsnet. What makes it worse is OP claiming to be Jewish.

[bgmnts]

Would be so sweet if we could just segregate society into the sane rational people and the mentalist who can go back to burning witches and shit.

We get our vaccines and they eat each other. Win win.

[Kankurette]

Our civil liberties are being eroded. But not in the way they think.

[mothman]

Yes but they don't worry about those ones because they think it'll never impact them. The classic "leopards eating my face" trope.

[Psybro]

I'm not even particularly good at maths and I know that a 2% chance of dying for going to Costa isn't to be shrugged off.

[mothman]

https://youtu.be/u34rnwBnll4

This doesn't look good for Corbyn.

[Psybro]

What you will need for today's hobby:

- £10,000 cash

[mothman]

You do have to wonder whether the two posh boys were even tempted to try for any of the antivaxxers whose surname wasn't Corbyn.

And indeed what the point was. They've made him look stupid (like he needs help with that), OK. And they've given him some fake money in return for a nebulous promise to not criticise the AZ vaccine as much as the Pfizer and Moderna ones - which he now won't do anyway because as soon as they left he'll have opened the envelope and detected the ruse. He can tell his loyal following he was just playing along and took the money to expose THEIR shenanigans.

To reiterate, then - a pointless exercise which achieves nothing. Apart from clicks for their channel.

[Bently Sheds]

He can tell his loyal following he was just playing along and took the money to expose THEIR shenanigans.

To reiterate, then - a pointless exercise which achieves nothing. Apart from clicks for their channel.

There were some twats on Twitter saying "Yeah but one of those posh boys does have shares in Astra Zeneca so aaaaaaaaaaaaaah, checkmate!" as if that doesn't show Tragic Grandpa up for the grifter he is.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Jeremy Clarkson has criticised Covid-19 lockdowns, politicians and hit out at the 'communists at SAGE'.

In an interview with the Radio Times, the 61-year-old presenter shared what he thinks about the pandemic and a post-pandemic world.

He said: "When it started, I read up on pandemics and they tend to be four years long.

"I think the politicians should sometimes tell those communists at Sage to get back in their box. Let's just all go through life with our fingers crossed and a smile on our face.

"I can see Boris doesn't want to open it up and shut us back down again. But if it's going to be four years ... and who knows, it could be 40 years."

He added: "Well, if it's going to be for ever, let's open it up and if you die, you die."...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19487213.jeremy-clarkson-calls-sage-scientists-communists-anti-lockdown-rant/

[monkfromhavana]

I think they forgot to add the emphasis

He added: "Well, if it's going to be for ever, let's open it up and if you die, you die."...

[Psybro]

It's weird how people can reconcile the idea that this virus will mostly cause mild symptoms, with the idea that those who it kills will just keel over instantly with no costs to the healthcare system or society incurred in the interim.

[Drygate]

Isn't it more that they were going to die from something any way and it was inevitable that they did?

[SpiderChrist]

Everybody's going to die of something eventually so why not just go around murdering people? Doing them a favour, really.

[Chedney Honks]

Isn't it more that they were going to die from something any way and it was inevitable that they did?

Entry-level shtick about fifteen months ago. You might as well dress up as Osama.

[buttgammon]

Any healthcare is a waste of time - we all have to die some time!!1

No point eating, you're only going to have to shit!!1

[Chedney Honks]

Only old people get dementia and it isn't even contagious?

[evilcommiedictator]

Each life saved by the Sydney lockdown costs $330 million. It's an unjustifiable expense that imposes large and disproportionate burdens on small business and the less well off, writes Federal Government Senator Matt Canavan.

We are not living in the real world onCOVID-19. Despite the massive costs being imposed by lockdowns, we still do not have a simple official estimate of how much they cost for each life saved. The modelling released by the government this week does not do that.

You can make a rough estimate from the separate modelling released by the Burnet Institute. It claims that the Sydney lockdown has avoided 4000 cases. The Sydney lockdown is costing $150 million a day, according to AMP, and had been in place for 35 days at the time of the Burnet modelling.

The total cost then comes to $5.3 billion, or a cost of $1.3 million for every avoided case.

The fatality rate during this outbreak has settled at about 0.4 per cent. That means that the 4000 avoided cases have prevented about 16 additional deaths. The estimated cost of each life saved is $330 million.

On any measure, this is an unjustifiable expense. And keep in mind this is only the economic cost. Lifeline experienced a record number of calls on Monday.

https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/swallow-hard-reality-pill-on-virus-deaths-20210804-p58fxc