Government Cash

[ollyboro]

The second time in only 12 years that it's been made plain that the free market is completely unable to sustain itself.

This is it. The free market must be adhered to when it's mines, steelworks and shipyards, but we'll bend the rules when it comes to protecting the very system which keeps the fuckers in their place.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Where does this money actually come from? Does anyone know?

Fiat. Not the cars.

[Sheffield Wednesday]

Deco voting Tory after those. When was the last time Labour put billions into the economy. Never

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Deco voting Tory after those. When was the last time Labour put billions into the economy. Never

Couldn't you have been boring later and spent the time in between being entertaining?

[tcat]

Where does this money actually come from? Does anyone know?

Insurance and pension companies.

Same people they helped with the QE the other day.

[Bence Fekete]

It is understood that the wage subsidy will apply to firms where bosses have already had to lay off workers due to the coronavirus, as long they are brought back into the workforce and instead granted a leave of absence.

So if you've been bending over to not sack your staff up until now, as most firms probably have been, then you're penalised? You only get the money if you sack people first?

[Johnny Yesno]

Allez-fucking-lujah. Finally. This is the party that hates dither and delay, supposedly.

[chveik]

Deco voting Tory after those. When was the last time Labour put billions into the economy. Never

paulie-tier

[pigamus]

paulie-tier

Well calling him a regional Nazi boss is a bit strong.

[Jasha]

Where does this money actually come from? Does anyone know?

The future

[Sin Agog]

Deco voting Tory after those.

I was thinking about Cubist voting Labour.

[Capt.Midnight]

The future

I do like The Future so that's good.

[greencalx]

So if you've been bending over to not sack your staff up until now, as most firms probably have been, then you're penalised? You only get the money if you sack people first?

Fuck sake.

[Sheffield Wednesday]

Couldn't you have been boring later and spent the time in between being entertaining?

The joke is that Labour haven't been in govt therefore they haven't had the opportunity to pump money into people's pockets, so it's a stupid point to make, but the kind of point nobheads are already making.

[evilcommiedictator]

Deco voting Tory after those. When was the last time Labour put billions into the economy. Never

It's not fixed survival money, it's wages. Which means millions of pounds given to the rich. So it's like every other Tory scheme

[Buelligan]

One thing I think the government must think about very quickly when offering payment to workers (on payrolls at the end of February 2020) who have been or will be laid-off because of the virus is ensuring these people are able to take other work, either voluntary or paid, during the crisis and still retain their rights to financial support.  This money is a lifeline, if people think their right to it might be cut off if they step up and do other essential work, they may opt to keep their desperately necessary safety net and not help.  A guarantee from the chancellor that this will not happen is needed, I think.

[Sheffield Wednesday]

It's not fixed survival money, it's wages. Which means millions of pounds given to the rich. So it's like every other Tory scheme

As I say, it was a joke.

They're doing better than I expected, regardless.

[Uncle TechTip]

A reminder that this is our money.

Our money... FROM THE FUTURE

Props to Jasha for this excellent post

[Johnny Yesno]

They're doing better than I expected, regardless.

But far, far worse than they need to be:

Too Little, Too Late: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFjihv27d-Y

[Paulie Walnuts]

So we finally got the Marxist government

and all it took was the end of the world

[Buelligan]

and all it took was the end of the world

All it took was for more people to fear experiencing the horrors of an inadequately funded healthcare system, of homelessness, unemployment and poverty.

That's what it took for capitalists to understand what the obvious answer to these terrible evils is.

[bgmnts]

Hahaha people are dying hahahha lulul

[Danger Man]

Too Little, Too Late: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFjihv27d-Y

Biggytitbo is looking healthier these days.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hahaha people are dying hahahha lulul

why would you laugh about the situation? :-/

[Paulie Walnuts]

All it took was for more people to fear experiencing the horrors of an inadequately funded healthcare system, of homelessness, unemployment and poverty.

the use of the state to support us during a complete global collapse is not the ringing endorsement of socialism you think it is

[Buelligan]

the use of the state to support us during a complete global collapse is not the ringing endorsement of socialism you think it is

What is it but an acknowledgement, an acceptance, that people, their basic human needs and rights, their health and well-being, come before profit.  They are more important than any market, than all markets and markets cannot cure all ills.

If not that, then what?  You explain what it is as the global financial bourses plunge through the basement.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

It is an admission that whenever the shit hits the fan, the only answer is, and always has been the state. This is really difficult for some to accept. What are true libertarians thinking right now? The ones that actually are libertarians and not just 'one rule for me another for others' petty fascists? Do they dream of ruling the ashes, atop a pile of skulls?

Socialism is just the notion that this capacity to supply a common good which this government is forced to deliver could be the norm in enhancing our lives.

[bgmnts]

The point is if we adopted a true socialist way of living our lives, the shit wouldn't hit the fan as hard, or we'd at least be better able to deal with it.

Look at the ludicrous display the past week or so, if that doesn't tell you humanity is fucked, what does?

[pancreas]

I wouldn't imagine for a second that they're not spending at least as much time a) working out how they can preserve the enormous inequality that they've deliberately created after all this is over as;
b) working out how to ensure there'll be anything left for them to preside over after this has finished.

[Johnny Yesno]

Biggytitbo is looking healthier these days.

And has stopped talking complete shite.