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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #330 on: April 28, 2020, 08:52:40 PM »
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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #331 on: April 30, 2020, 09:24:58 PM »
These Polish beers are running out fast (my partner keeps nabbing the various porters and stouts)

Jurajskie Pszeniczne Jasne (Wheat beer, 5.3%) - ***

A biscuity browner shade (not a dunkel though), a little like Sternweisse, Ayinger Urweisse or Schneider Original in terms of colour and part of their flavour. What's not there is the texture. You want that soft cloudy texture but it's a little too thin again which negatively affects the overall flavour. Still, a different effort by the standards of normal Polish wheatbeer which errs to the light and lemony side.

Pinta Czarna Dziura (Schwarzbier, 4.5%) - *** and a half

Highly drinkable at the strength, reaches a lovely balance of flavourful and neckable. Not a standout in terms of grabbing my attention but a fresh and totally competent effort.

Komes Potrojny Zloty (Belgian style Tripel, 9% - 500ml too! LOVE IT) - **** and a half

Their quadrupel was a solid effort with some distinct Belgian character, but this one absolutely nails every aspect of the style. It's the only Tripel outside of the low countries I have drunk which tasted like a tripel. Lovely balance of strong booze with zingy spice and a creamy fizzy texture in the mouth. Formidable enough that you couldn't just chug it but it remained as drinkable from first sip to last. My first half-litre of Tripel in one sitting, and really didn't deserve the daunting feeling I have before opening it.

Inne Beczki Pszeniczne Jasne (Wheat beer, 4.8%) - ***

Very light when pouring but some sediment near the bottom gradually fills the glass to put the hefe back in hefeweizen. You don't usually get the texture of flavour of Bavarian wheat beer from Polish efforts but this one achieves it, albeit only at the entry level of Erdinger. It was almost a clone of it. Still, satisfied, would bang again.

Goscieszewo Komtur (Schwarzbier, 6.5%) - ****

And tonight's!.....This is the strong side of Schwarzbier as opposed to the session effort above. It's sweeter obviously but they seem to have propped it up with a relatively zingy hop. Not quite Black IPA but not far off. It's really effective as you get the lovely sweet hit and the refreshing hoppy kick. Really liking it.


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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #332 on: April 30, 2020, 09:25:37 PM »
Just seen that Northern Monk are doing a 'Sunday Roast' brown ale. In association with Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puddings.

Gonna have to burn it down, this can't be allowed.


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« Reply #333 on: April 30, 2020, 09:28:15 PM »
Just seen that Northern Monk are doing a 'Sunday Roast' brown ale. In association with Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puddings.

Gonna have to burn it down, this can't be allowed.

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« Reply #334 on: April 30, 2020, 10:57:16 PM »
Just seen that Northern Monk are doing a 'Sunday Roast' brown ale. In association with Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puddings.

Gonna have to burn it down, this can't be allowed.

Seriously? Fuck, that's worse than ice cream IPA surely.

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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #335 on: April 30, 2020, 11:01:29 PM »
I suppose yorkshire pudding batter and that sort of faint savoury/stale aroma they have might work mixed with a brown ale. That's kind of repulsive to even type, though.

Anyway, they only need to make a small batch and for it to get in the papers, a few mugs on Untappd will rate it higher than the scores for some of the greatest beers that have ever been brewed, so job's a good un for them.

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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #336 on: May 01, 2020, 01:31:14 AM »
My next-door neighbour has just opened a brewery.

Me now:


Me by about October:



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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #337 on: May 01, 2020, 09:41:19 AM »
Belgianinabox: Order in preparation

a month nearly now

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« Reply #338 on: May 01, 2020, 11:12:24 AM »
Belgianinabox: Order in preparation

a month nearly now

I guess it is past the point where you can revoke your order now.

Interesting the differences between companies in respect of their service levels.

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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #339 on: May 01, 2020, 11:13:01 AM »
Was it you who recommended this site?

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« Reply #340 on: May 01, 2020, 11:13:30 AM »
Belgianinabox: Order in preparation

a month nearly now

Mine is arriving TODAY

sorry.

We didn't go for anything too recherché though.

Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #341 on: May 01, 2020, 11:14:21 AM »
BiaB were fine a few weeks ago, so maybe restocking is the problem.

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« Reply #342 on: May 01, 2020, 11:15:16 AM »
Mine is arriving TODAY

sorry.

We didn't go for anything too recherché though.

just got a message

"Pardon, we have accidentally sent your order to Cuellar, we will endeavour to get you a replacement by 2021"

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« Reply #343 on: May 01, 2020, 11:16:47 AM »
Sorry I don't believe it would be in my interests to forward the consignment on to you.

Please respect my privacy at this time.

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« Reply #344 on: May 01, 2020, 11:18:48 AM »
Was it you who recommended this site?

I think it is Cuellar who raves about it. Haven't used them personally as I don't find them the most cost effective. The covid issues grant them a bit of latitude but not a month.

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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #345 on: May 01, 2020, 11:19:22 AM »
This is the first time I've used them! I was just excited about their range I think.

Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #346 on: May 01, 2020, 11:43:44 AM »
Way to go, Bierstein.

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« Reply #347 on: May 01, 2020, 11:48:50 AM »
Cuellar's wearing a fucking wire!

The Dutch have come flying out the blocks, straight up told me it was gonna be less than 7 days from winkelwagen to doorstep. Very ambitious. But can it be done? Find out on Monday!


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« Reply #348 on: May 01, 2020, 12:10:47 PM »
My zending was bezorged within that time frame and I'm pretty confident yours will be.

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Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #349 on: May 01, 2020, 12:50:35 PM »
Lockdown for me started with the Belgian order, nearly through the Polish order now - thanks to my partner nicking half of it - so as it's pay day I thought I would go German next time and go straight for the good stuff: Franconian vollbier, kellerbier, zwickl, zoigl.

It will end up a bit more expensive too, working out about £3.25 a bottle. However, I would be looking at that cost at a bottle shop in England anyway, these days.

https://www.hier-gibts-bier.de/en/ - They seem to have the best offering of well reputed small breweries from Franconia and the Upper Palatinate which specialise in beer that's difficult to get elsewhere in Germany, let alone England. You can buy either 1, 6 or 20 bottles of each. I went for 10 different beers of 6 each, so it's going to last at least a month.

Probably the only occasion I will splash out on something like this seeing as it's lockdown and I'm saving money hand over fist anyway vs the pub. There's also the looming spectre of Britain leaving the customs union which will make shipments from the EU more or less unaffordable.


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« Reply #350 on: May 01, 2020, 01:11:42 PM »
A craft beer shop near me reopened selling beers in bottles and cans. Fuck me, lot of work goes into the cans and bottles but the beer all tastes a bit shit. This is largely why I swerve beer, although I have really really enjoyed the Belgian/Trappist stuff I've bought recently. Seems fucking bonkers though to get some session IPA made in Lancaster in a neon can for 4 quid. Same with a lot of bottles local ales and whatever. Basically tastes like water to me. Harmless but it's like the soundcloud of beer or something. Just aeons and aeons of nothing. Why even bother?

On the other hand, I have quite enjoyed some of the stouts albeit every single one is coffee, chocolate or hazelnut or oats or something. Turns out they're nice, though. Maybe I just don't like IPA/pale any more.

Another thing is some of them seemed almost flat. Is that normal? I just had a drink of the beer and poured it down the sink. Life's too short.

Can anyone recommend me some worthwhile English beers/ales which might compare to the depth of flavour of the Belgian top boys? Please.

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« Reply #351 on: May 01, 2020, 01:23:44 PM »
Brew by Numbers often have a range of interesting stuff in bottle shops but it's expensive so I haven't really explored much. My old local Torrside Brewery in New Mills attempted a number of interesting styles with some pretty good results. For IPA tend to grab Kernel when I see them. They just know how to make a decent IPA and keep prices acceptable

Example of Torrside range.

https://www.eebriatrade.com/products/beer/torrside-brewing/19264-rauchwine

Not sure where you can buy bottles right now

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« Reply #352 on: May 01, 2020, 01:24:02 PM »


pandemic travels faster than Belgian beer.

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« Reply #353 on: May 01, 2020, 01:44:43 PM »
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Can anyone recommend me some worthwhile English beers/ales which might compare to the depth of flavour of the Belgian top boys? Please.

Tynt Meadow immediately springs to mind. England now has a Trappist commercial beer producer and these lads from Leicestershire have made a strong dark ale that takes cues from English and Belgian ales. It is really lovely.

Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #354 on: May 01, 2020, 02:40:55 PM »
Brew by Numbers... Kernel...

Cheers, Kernel had come up in my searches so I'll give them a go. Nice one bruv.

It does seem very difficult to separate the wheat from the acres of chaff, though. I guess that's the same with anything and probably part of the fun. I just don't much like the hit rate with beer, because there's so so much out there. On the other hand, pretty cheap and easy to try a dozen different things in one order, vs wine or whisky spending hundreds for the same range. Easier to experiment and take a punt. Looking forward to trying this 'Vietnamese Hazelnut Coffee Stout' this evening (oh, just Googled and this is a substyle of its own, it seems, with many producers!). Defo enjoying the stout end of the craft scene more than the IPA for now.

Tynt Meadow

Excellent! Thanks, I'll also get onto that. Sounds right up my current street.

Thanks, gents.

Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #355 on: May 01, 2020, 03:35:31 PM »
This one is actually worth a mention because I really enjoyed it, and especially as a supermarket pick up.

Magic Rock Dark Arts - Hazelnut Stout

It's exactly as it sounds, a dark, nutty stout with earthy aromas, but with just enough Fruit 'n' Nut sweetness and creaminess to lighten it up. It's almost got a rummy depth to the sweeter, fruitier notes. You can't avoid that dusty, nutty addictive note, though. It's in the body and on the nose and palate. Really drying aftertaste, makes you want to have that next sip to lift it with the creamy sweetness. The only thing I would say is that it seems a bit gimmicky, rather than tasting like beer, but that might be my ignorance of the style.

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« Reply #356 on: May 01, 2020, 04:22:02 PM »
Magic Rock's Common Grounds is a very good coffee Porter.  I haven't had it in a year or so but every time I've had it before then it has stood up to the test of time. Gotta find it on cask of course for a real treat. Not sure how the takeover has affected cask production...

Re: BEERS #2 - Beyond the Pale
« Reply #357 on: May 01, 2020, 05:37:41 PM »
Cheers, I'll keep an eye out for that one, too.

I'm currently sipping my way through this:



I thought it was a stout but actually a porter. I don't know the style at all, to be honest. I've had a few but always seemed a bit fruitier from memory, like plum porter type of thing. This is dense as fuck. Almost no carbonation. Basically pour a double espresso into a pint of Speccy Brew.

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« Reply #358 on: May 01, 2020, 06:42:52 PM »
Absolute muck, probably full of condensed milk. Sounds delicious. Good to see Red Willow still going. They made some good cask stuff going back to early/mid 2010s

Full house of Waitrose finest here with Urquell, Geuze Boon, Erdinger Picantus and Westmalle double for under a tenner. In that order. 

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« Reply #359 on: May 01, 2020, 06:50:20 PM »
Redwillow Smokeless, a smoked porter with chipotle was an instant hit with my partner when she was starting to get into beers.

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