CORONAVIRUS 2020: RHYTHM OF THE DEATH III

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

assuming no second wave for early-openers and first wave exponentials in places like Africa. Brazil have fucking galloped to second place in the world...will Bolsanaro be lynched now? I hate that fuck more than anyone on this planet right now.

Until then however, the pace is slowing.

Regarding Africa, it has already been raised that there are fewer people at risk on the continent as a % of the population than the West. Not for any good reasons, a series of other horrible reasons.

In the UK we have found 75% of the deaths have been people aged 75 or over.

I couldn't find matching population data but going from a UN study there are only 3 million Africans aged 80 or over (bear in mind in the UK alone there are 2.5 million people aged over 75). A far higher % of the 3 million will be 'protected' by low population density and lack of mobility.

International travel, mass transit, care homes as a national concept, mass gatherings seem to be the chief catalysts, early decisive action the key to limiting the damage.

[Abnormal Palm]

The pace is slowing because most of the world has put in place lockdown measures for the last two months. However much we've fucked up along the way, it has definitely prevented a lot more excess deaths and earned time for improvements in treatment, testing, equipment, infrastructure. It's not necessarily 'enough' time but we've slowed the spread to some extent. It's obviously not burned out, but I appreciate you're not suggesting that.

[Ferris]

Overall global deaths seem to be slowing in pace. 100,000 to 200,000 took 15 days, 200,000 to 300,000 took 21 days, looks like maybe a month to get to 400,000.

Oh right we're laughing then

[Dog Botherer]

there's absolutely no way numbers aren't going to massively spike in the US in the next couple of weeks.

[chveik]

Shoulders, always the optimist

[weekender]

Sudanese 14 year old has midlife crisis

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

there's absolutely no way numbers aren't going to massively spike in the US in the next couple of weeks.

What's going on in the next couple of weeks?

[Zetetic]

 I think it's rather that we're seeing loosening of restrictions across many states and counties now.

[Alberon]

Saw on slashdot yesterday that an Imperial College study thinks the virus is out of control in 24 states.

[Fambo Number Mive]

In 24 states, however, the model shows a reproduction number over 1. Texas tops the list, followed by Arizona, Illinois, Colorado, Ohio, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Alabama, Wisconsin, Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida, Virginia, New Mexico, Missouri, Delaware, South Carolina, Massachusetts, North Carolina, California, Pennsylvania, Louisiana and Maryland. 

Georgia is the only state I can think of that isn't in that list that has reopened extensively.

[Dog Botherer]

What's going on in the next couple of weeks?

90% of the country is carrying on as if nothing is happening, no masks, distancing, none of it. just cruising towards a daily 9/11.

[Fambo Number Mive]

The UK goverment appear to be sponsoring a piece about what private companies are doing to help with coronavirus

People working for a wide range of private companies have been standing side-by-side with public sector staff on the front line during the coronavirus outbreak. Staff at private sector firms have been doing their bit to help out communities across the country during the crisis. This includes employees from many of the large outsourcing firms that the government works with, who have both shifted their resources to work on other projects and made sure vital services have continued. Here are just some of the many examples from across the country...

Why is the government paying for free advertising for these firms? The initial ad that links to this is on my local paper and says "Stay alert, keep our distance, wash our hands, think of others and play our part. All together"

The same ad picture is on the sponsored content and this time when clicks it links to Government advice on coronavirus.

[olliebean]

I don't understand. Surely the way an outsourcing firm functions is it doesn't actually work on any projects itself. It outsources the work and just sits in the middle taking a chunk of the money. So have they just switched to taking a chunk of the money from vital services?

[Fambo Number Mive]

I'm confused by it all to be honest.

[BlodwynPig]

Outsourcing in the UK has led us to this place...not just the pandemic disaster, but pretty much every other scandal and government failing of the last...20 years.

[sambwel]

Just wait until this all blows over and they get on with privatising the NHS as originally planned. The next pandemic will be even worse without even an underfunded public health system.

[steveh]

The outsourcing has also been to a tiny group of companies - as part of the austerity project a lot of smaller companies were locked out in favour of bigger "more efficient" contracts, with the smaller companies who had the skills sometimes subcontracted for a greatly reduced cut.

It's also been allied with a centralising of control, taking functions out of local authorities and bundling up their provision in massive central contracts with the work done by cheaper, less-specialised staff. The contact tracing mess is the latest example of something that used to be done by specialists at local councils but has been turned into a big central Serco contract and performed by call centre workers on not much more than minimum wage.

[BlodwynPig]

Just wait until this all blows over and they get on with privatising the NHS as originally planned. The next pandemic will be even worse without even an underfunded public health system.

"Doctor!? Doctor, I'm starving"

Robot enters room : "Here is your FREE 10% off McDonald's Voucher"

[Uncle TechTip]

The UK goverment appear to be sponsoring a piece about what private companies are doing to help with coronavirus

Why is the government paying for free advertising for these firms? The initial ad that links to this is on my local paper and says "Stay alert, keep our distance, wash our hands, think of others and play our part. All together"

The same ad picture is on the sponsored content and this time when clicks it links to Government advice on coronavirus.

Local newspapers are ok with this as the government are one of the organisations willing to pay for advertising at the moment. It seems ok, what is the concern?

[BlodwynPig]

Local newspapers are ok with this as the government are one of the organisations willing to pay for advertising at the moment. It seems ok, what is the concern?

Local newspapers are the dregs sloshing down the gutter of irrelevance these days. With government advertising they have a chance to avoid complete annihilation - in consequence, local newspapers become the British equivalent of the vessels for Volksaufklärung und Propaganda.

[olliebean]

Just wait until this all blows over and they get on with privatising the NHS as originally planned. The next pandemic will be even worse without even an underfunded public health system.

Now that it's pretty much confirmed that the real boss is Cummings the eugenicist, I fear the future he has in mind for the NHS may be so much worse than anyone is imagining.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Local newspapers are ok with this as the government are one of the organisations willing to pay for advertising at the moment. It seems ok, what is the concern?

The government spending money on an advert promoting the efforts of private businesses to help in the pandemic. I wouldn't mind if the businesses themselves were funding this but I don't think the government should be. Unless it's trying to encourage other private companies to help, but I still feel uncomfortable with the government spending public money on promoting the (welcome) efforts of private companies.

[Fambo Number Mive]

It's frustrating how the BBC gives a summary of what other countries are doing to lift lockdown without making it clear in the summary that these countries locked down earlier and more efficiently, and thatmost have a lower number of cases or deaths. Otherwise it makes people think "if Greece is reopening cafes and resturants", why can't I breach the 2m rule/see friends/drive to Durham and snog the bluebells.

[sambwel]

Rather out of character for the Daily Mail to take a pop at a Tory eugenicist but I suppose these really are strange times

[honeychile]

Weston-super-Mare's hospital closed to A&E patients as of 0800 this morning:

In a statement on the trust website it said: "Weston General Hospital will temporarily stop accepting new patients, including into its A&E department, as of 8am today.

"This is a precautionary measure in order to maintain the safety of staff and patients in response to the high number of patients with Coronavirus in the hospital."

Unsurprisingly there's been a lot of speculation about Weston being a beach town, the lifting of restrictions, the sunny weather, VE day twattery etc. being potential behavioural causes for a local spike. The trust haven't given any numbers. I haven't heard of anything similar happening (yet) in other similar destinations, but with the current disregard for whatever now passes for official advice it doesn't fill me with optimism.

[Zetetic]

Weston-super-Mare's hospital closed to A&E patients as of 0800 this morning.

Might be something to do with cross-infection concerns, specific to the site, as well as any influx. Or so I've heard speculated.

Interesting, given that SW England had got off relatively lightly so far, by British standards.

[honeychile]

Interesting, given that SW England had got off relatively lightly so far, by British standards.

Yeah, this struck me as strange. Even with people taking a more laissez-faire attitude to day-tripping and whatnot, and notwithstanding Weston's popularity with visitors from the Midlands, i'd have thought a vast majority of the increased crowds were from the south-west. Any visitors from further afield would be more likely to take it back with them too?

[Fambo Number Mive]

Government plans for  outdoor markets and car show rooms to open from 1 June, and all other non-essential retail to open from 15th June.

Imagine how many people touch the cars in car showrooms each day. Will cars have to be disinfected in between test drives?

[BlodwynPig]

Government plans for  outdoor markets and car show rooms to open from 1 June, and all other non-essential retail to open from 15th June.

Imagine how many people touch the cars in car showrooms each day. Will cars have to be disinfected in between test drives?

Any advice for vulnerable and at risk?

I'll ride the 2nd wave out in any case. No need for me to consume shit.

[Zetetic]

Any advice for vulnerable and at risk?

Don't live in England.